NetBSD RPi 4b Install/Boot Failure
I am using a SanDisk Extreme Pro 128GiB flash drive connected to the RPi 4b USB-3 port. I can use this with the RPi OS. I tried downloading Generic 64-bit from http://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/arm/, marked as for the Raspberry Pi. I unzipped the file to get the .img. > ls -l NetBSD-10-aarch64--generic.img -rw-rw-r-- 1 tomdean tomdean 1582301184 Apr 20 20:46 NetBSD-10-aarch64--generic.img > sudo dd if=NetBSD-10-aarch64--generic.img of=/dev/sda bs=1M conv=sync 1509+0 records in 1509+0 records out 1582301184 bytes (1.6 GB, 1.5 GiB) copied, 6.21875 s, 254 MB/s > sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt > ls /mnt EFI cmdline.txt fixup.dat fixup_cd.dat start4.elf LICENCE.broadcom config.txt fixup4.datnetbsd.imgstart4cd.elf bootcode.bin dtb fixup4cd.dat start.elf start_cd.elf > cat /mnt/cmdline.txt root=NAME=netbsd-root console=fb > cat /mnt/config.txt # upstream_kernel=1 # arm_64bit=1 os_prefix=dtb/broadcom/ cmdline=../../cmdline.txt kernel=/netbsd.img kernel_address=0x20 enable_uart=1 force_turbo=0 I connected a HDMI display and the SanDisk Extreme Pro flash drive (USB 3) to the RPi 4b and applied power. The led on the flash drive blinked for 3~4 seconds and stopped. The screen flashed and went blank. Nothing afterwards... I booted the RPi 4b from a SD card, NetBSD 10 and connected the flash drive to a USB-3 port. fsck says the drive is OK. I mounted /dev/dk2 on /mnt There are some missing files on dk2 as compared to /boot. pi-4b-1# ls -l /mnt total 23142 drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1024 Mar 28 16:53 EFI -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1594 Mar 28 16:53 LICENCE.broadcom -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 52476 Mar 28 16:53 bootcode.bin -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel33 Mar 28 16:53 cmdline.txt -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 155 Mar 28 16:53 config.txt drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1024 Mar 28 16:53 dtb -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7269 Mar 28 16:53 fixup.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5412 Mar 28 16:53 fixup4.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3180 Mar 28 16:53 fixup4cd.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3180 Mar 28 16:53 fixup_cd.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16761568 Mar 28 16:53 netbsd.img -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2979264 Mar 28 16:53 start.elf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2254944 Mar 28 16:53 start4.elf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel808060 Mar 28 16:53 start4cd.elf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel808060 Mar 28 16:53 start_cd.elf rpi-4b-1# ls -l /boot total 25293 drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1024 Apr 1 22:28 EFI -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1594 Apr 1 22:28 LICENCE.broadcom -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2031616 Jun 5 2023 RPI_EFI.fd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5051 Jun 5 2023 Readme.md -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 54388 Jun 5 2023 bcm2711-rpi-4-b.dtb -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 54477 Jun 5 2023 bcm2711-rpi-400.dtb -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 54997 Jun 5 2023 bcm2711-rpi-cm4.dtb -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 52476 Apr 1 22:28 bootcode.bin -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel33 Apr 1 22:28 cmdline.txt -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 243 Jun 5 2023 config.txt drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1024 Apr 1 22:28 dtb drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1024 Apr 19 04:13 firmware -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7269 Apr 1 22:28 fixup.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5397 Jun 5 2023 fixup4.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3180 Apr 1 22:28 fixup4cd.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3180 Apr 1 22:28 fixup_cd.dat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16761568 Apr 1 22:28 netbsd.img drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1024 Apr 19 04:13 overlays -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2979264 Apr 1 22:28 start.elf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2253088 Jun 5 2023 start4.elf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel808060 Apr 1 22:28 start4cd.elf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel808060 Apr 1 22:28 start_cd.elf Any ideas? Tom Dean
Re: need your advice before new Raspberry Pi purchase
On 4/20/24 17:24, Michael wrote: The 3GB limit is on by default for some old linux kernels that don't have the DMA workaround. It takes about 10 seconds to get into the UEFI setup menu and turn it off. What is the UEFI setup menu? How do I get in to it? I used dd to write arm64.img to the USB 3 flash drive. Is the NetBSD installer available in the arm64.img? Is it possible to use the installer on the RPi 4b (booted from the SD card) to install NetBSD 10 on the USB 3 flash drive? Tom Dean
Re: NetBSD 10 headless boot
I see you've now experienced the following PR: kern/49398: i386-current GENERIC (i915drmkms) boot hangs if monitor powered off So, it's not only a monitor not connected, but also a monitor connected but powered off (depending on connection method). This is slightly annoying to me as I would like to have the option to use the console on the machine when needed, but not have to keep the monitor on all the time or reboot it to get more than the plain VGA console. -- |/"\ John D. Baker, KN5UKS NetBSD Darwin/MacOS X |\ / jdbaker[snail]consolidated[flyspeck]net OpenBSDFreeBSD | X No HTML/proprietary data in email. BSD just sits there and works! |/ \ GPGkeyID: D703 4A7E 479F 63F8 D3F4 BD99 9572 8F23 E4AD 1645
Re: need your advice before new Raspberry Pi purchase
Hello, On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 11:46:51 +0200 Ramiro Aceves wrote: > "As of early 2024, NetBSD does not support the Raspberry Pi 5." > > Reading that I inmediatly discarded the Raspberry Pi 5 choice. Being > realistic I think It does not work in NetBSD 10 now and I estimate it > will not work well for perhaps some years. Life is short, I cannot wait > and so I think RaspberryPi 4 should be my buying target. Not sure what's missing - there is now at least beta UEFI firmware for the Pi5. > "NetBSD 10" > > "RPI4 general support (but there are issues)" I've been using an 8GB Pi4 and a Pi400 with UEFI for a while now. > "RPI4 ethernet (Broadcom GENETv5) (but the man page for genet(4) is > missing)" > > Can I be sure that ethernet will work fine and reliable? Network speed? Works fine on mine, good enough for NetBSD and pkgsrc builds with sources over NFS. > "builtin bluetooth on RPI3 (RPI0W? RPI4?)" > > Does bluetooth work on the Pi4? Never tried. > "builtin WiFi on RPI0W, RPI3 and RPI4 - bwfm(4)" > > Does WIFI bwfm driver work as badly as in the ZeroW? Not relevant for > my future use of the Pi 4 cause I will use it through ethernet but that > will be a bonus, just curious. IIRC I got it to connect to my router but never really stress tested it. I prefer wired ethernet wherever practical. > "RPI4 xhci does not work with a straight netbsd-10 install" > > I seems that below is the explanation. Both my Pi4* boot from USB3 disks connected to USB3 ports. > After switching to UEFI you will make USB ports work but 8 GB RapberryPi > will be reduced to 3 GB only with no workaround? What do "needing a > monitor" mean? Why? The 3GB limit is on by default for some old linux kernels that don't have the DMA workaround. It takes about 10 seconds to get into the UEFI setup menu and turn it off. [ 1.00] NetBSD 10.99.7 (GENERIC64) #0: Thu Aug 24 06:18:05 EDT 2023 [ 1.00] ml@paddy:/disk/build/obj_earm64/sys/arch/evbarm/compile/GENERIC64 [ 1.00] total memory = 8029 MB [ 1.00] avail memory = 7740 MB [ 1.00] entropy: ready [ 1.00] ptyfs_hashinit: 0001feef5b00 [ 1.00] timecounter: Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec [ 1.00] armfdt0 (root) [ 1.00] armfdt0: using EFI runtime services for RTC [ 1.00] simplebus0 at armfdt0: Raspberry Pi Foundation Raspberry Pi 4 Model B [ 1.00] simplebus1 at simplebus0 [ 1.00] acpifdt0 at simplebus0 [ 1.00] acpifdt0: SMBIOS rev. 3.3.0 @ 0x371d ... > Does HDMI output work or should I use serial console? traditional boot > vs UEFI difference in this matter? I'm typing this on a Pi400 with a monitor hooked to it. My Pi400 even came with a micro-HDMI to regular HDMI cable. have fun Michael
Re: RPi 4b Wifi Device
On 4/20/24 15:29, Michael Cheponis wrote: I run an RPi 4B/8G with external USB SSD drive; I do this because my uSD cards were getting worn out after about a year of use; I've had no such problems with my Samsung 870 EVO nor Samsung SSD T7. I use the built-in GigE adaptor on the RPi 4B, because it's convenient as I have wired ethernet most places. So I can't help with WiFi. I have been running an RPi 3 from a Lexar 64B Thumb Drive since June 2019 - no problem there, either. I use SanDisk Extreme Pro 128GiB flash drives in the RPi 4b USB 3 port, sometimes with a 6" USB 3 cable. I can always boot RPi OS on these drives. I have never been able to boot NetBSD 10. I downloaded the arm64.img, and RPi4_UEFI_Firmware_v1.35.zip. On a Linux desktop: dd if=arm64.img of=/dev/sda bs=1M and, then I replace the corresponding files from RPi4_UEFI_Firmware_v1.35.zip. mount /de3v/sda1 /mnt cd /mnt unzip ~/NetBSD/RPi4_UEFI_Firmware_v1.35.zip When I attempt to boot, I see the color flash, then a cursor at the top left of the screen, then the screen goes blank. The flash drive shows lots of accesses during this process and then shows access flashes in groups of 3 or 4. I think this indicates an unreadable file, I think. When I do the the same actions with an SD card, NetBSD boots. What do you do? Tom Dean
Re: NetBSD 10 headless boot
> > What has changed with GENERIC NetBSD 10 that I now need a monitor > connected? > > [ 3.409208] i915drmkms0: interrupting at msi6 vec 0 (i915drmkms0) > [ 3.417023] [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20200114 for i915drmkms0 on > minor 0 > [ 3.447019] intelfb0 at i915drmkms0 > [ 3.447019] [drm] DRM_I915_DEBUG enabled > [ 3.447019] [drm] DRM_I915_DEBUG_GEM enabled > [ 3.447019] intelfb0: framebuffer at 0xe0009000, size 1920x1080, depth > 32, stride 7680 > [ 4.097019] wsdisplay0 at intelfb0 kbdmux 1: console (default, vt100 > emulation), using wskbd0 I solved this thanks to NetBSD's excellent documentation. I happened to notice an example in man 5 boot.cfg: # Disable Direct Rendering Manager (DRM) drivers userconf=disable i915drmkms* Sure enough, adding that userconf to my boot.cfg solves being able to boot NetBSD 10 without VGA connected, like it behaved in 9.3. I'm certain I did not add that to my 9.3 boot.cfg for this machine, so there is still the question of what could have changed from 9.3 to 10.0. Thanks - Joel
Re: RPi 4b Wifi Device
On 4/20/24 13:16, Michael van Elst wrote:
tomd...@wavecable.com ("Thomas D. Dean") writes:
# wpa_cli status
Selected interface 'bwfm0'
21:58:44.815: bssid=60:38:e0:db:a9:7a
freq=0
ssid=tddhome
id=0
mode=station
pairwise_cipher=TKIP
group_cipher=TKIP
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
wpa_state=GROUP_HANDSHAKE
ip_address=169.254.135.120
address=e4:5f:01:da:eb:46
I don't understand where the inet 169.254.135.120 comes from. The router
pool is 192.168.1.xxx.
169.254.x.x is a "link local" address. dhcpcd falls back to such an
address, if it doesn't get an answer from a dhcp server. Apparently
wpa_supplicant cannot connect to the network.
wpa_state=GROUP_HANDSHAKE
says that it still tries to associate. When it's done this would
change to COMPLETED.
I have two RPi 4b's. One with NetBSD 10 on an SD card and the other with
RPi OS on a USB flash drive. (I can not get NetBSD to boot from a flash
drive)
As far as I can tell the network configurations are the same for WIFI on
both. I see comments on the web about NetBSD 10 problems with the bwfm
device.
I need WIFI. So, I go back to RPi OS.
Thanks for all the replies.
Tom Dean
Re: RPi 4b Wifi Device
tomd...@wavecable.com ("Thomas D. Dean") writes:
># wpa_cli status
>Selected interface 'bwfm0'
>21:58:44.815: bssid=60:38:e0:db:a9:7a
>freq=0
>ssid=tddhome
>id=0
>mode=station
>pairwise_cipher=TKIP
>group_cipher=TKIP
>key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
>wpa_state=GROUP_HANDSHAKE
>ip_address=169.254.135.120
>address=e4:5f:01:da:eb:46
>I don't understand where the inet 169.254.135.120 comes from. The router
>pool is 192.168.1.xxx.
169.254.x.x is a "link local" address. dhcpcd falls back to such an
address, if it doesn't get an answer from a dhcp server. Apparently
wpa_supplicant cannot connect to the network.
>wpa_state=GROUP_HANDSHAKE
says that it still tries to associate. When it's done this would
change to COMPLETED.
NetBSD 10 headless boot
Hello -- I have a NetBSD 10 GENERIC RELEASE AMD64 installed on a Lenovo i7-4770 desktop that I use for a build machine. I just did a fresh install after having run 9.3 and everything was great with 10 until I tried to boot without a monitor. In my case, I used the VGA port (no keyboard) after noticing it didn't boot, and sure enough it worked. I was able to boot (in fact, just a couple hours ago) NetBSD 9.3 without a monitor just fine. What has changed with GENERIC NetBSD 10 that I now need a monitor connected? The machine is located away from my monitors, etc, so I need a headless boot. Thanks - Joel dmesg [ 1.00] Copyright (c) 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, [ 1.00] 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, [ 1.00] 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, [ 1.00] 2024 [ 1.00] The NetBSD Foundation, Inc. All rights reserved. [ 1.00] Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 [ 1.00] The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. [ 1.00] NetBSD 10.0 (GENERIC) #0: Thu Mar 28 08:33:33 UTC 2024 [ 1.00] mkre...@mkrepro.netbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC [ 1.00] total memory = 16296 MB [ 1.00] avail memory = 15742 MB [ 1.00] timecounter: Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec [ 1.00] Kernelized RAIDframe activated [ 1.00] timecounter: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100 [ 1.04] mainbus0 (root) [ 1.04] ACPI: RSDP 0x000F0490 24 (v02 LENOVO) [ 1.04] ACPI: XSDT 0xDAE3F088 8C (v01 LENOVO TC-03 1170 AMI 00010013) [ 1.04] ACPI: FACP 0xDAE4C098 00010C (v05 LENOVO TC-03 1170 AMI 00010013) [ 1.04] ACPI: DSDT 0xDAE3F1A0 00CEF7 (v02 LENOVO TC-03 1170 INTL 20120711) [ 1.04] ACPI: FACS 0xDB887080 40 [ 1.04] ACPI: APIC 0xDAE4C1A8 92 (v03 LENOVO TC-03 1170 AMI 00010013) [ 1.04] ACPI: FPDT 0xDAE4C240 44 (v01 LENOVO TC-03 1170 AMI 00010013) [ 1.04] ACPI: LPIT 0xDAE4C288 5C (v01 LENOVO TC-03 1170 AMI. 0005) [ 1.04] ACPI: MSDM 0xDAE4C2E8 55 (v03 LENOVO TC-03 1170 AMI 00010013) [ 1.04] ACPI: SSDT 0xDAE4C340 000539 (v01 LENOVO TC-03 1170 INTL 20120711) [ 1.04] ACPI: SSDT 0xDAE4C880 000AD8 (v01 LENOVO TC-03 1170 INTL 20120711) [ 1.04] ACPI: MCFG 0xDAE4D358 3C (v01 LENOVO TC-03 1170 MSFT 0097) [ 1.04] ACPI: HPET 0xDAE4D398 38 (v01 LENOVO TC-03 1170 AMI. 0005) [ 1.04] ACPI: SSDT 0xDAE4D3D0 00036D (v01 LENOVO TC-03 1170 INTL 20120711) [ 1.04] ACPI: SSDT 0xDAE4D740 0032F3 (v01 LENOVO TC-03 1170 INTL 20091112) [ 1.04] ACPI: BGRT 0xDAE50A38 38 (v00 LENOVO TC-03 1170 AMI 00010013) [ 1.04] ACPI: DMAR 0xDAE50A70 B8 (v01 LENOVO TC-03 1170 INTL 0001) [ 1.04] ACPI: 5 ACPI AML tables successfully acquired and loaded [ 1.04] ioapic0 at mainbus0 apid 2: pa 0xfec0, version 0x20, 24 pins [ 1.04] cpu0 at mainbus0 apid 0 [ 1.04] cpu0: Use lfence to serialize rdtsc [ 1.04] cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz, id 0x306c3 [ 1.04] cpu0: node 0, package 0, core 0, smt 0 [ 1.04] cpu1 at mainbus0 apid 2 [ 1.04] cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz, id 0x306c3 [ 1.04] cpu1: node 0, package 0, core 1, smt 0 [ 1.04] cpu2 at mainbus0 apid 4 [ 1.04] cpu2: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz, id 0x306c3 [ 1.04] cpu2: node 0, package 0, core 2, smt 0 [ 1.04] cpu3 at mainbus0 apid 6 [ 1.04] cpu3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz, id 0x306c3 [ 1.04] cpu3: node 0, package 0, core 3, smt 0 [ 1.04] cpu4 at mainbus0 apid 1 [ 1.04] cpu4: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz, id 0x306c3 [ 1.04] cpu4: node 0, package 0, core 0, smt 1 [ 1.04] cpu5 at mainbus0 apid 3 [ 1.04] cpu5: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz, id 0x306c3 [ 1.04] cpu5: node 0, package 0, core 1, smt 1 [ 1.04] cpu6 at mainbus0 apid 5 [ 1.04] cpu6: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz, id 0x306c3 [ 1.04] cpu6: node 0, package 0, core 2, smt 1 [ 1.04] cpu7 at mainbus0 apid 7 [ 1.04] cpu7: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz, id 0x306c3 [ 1.04] cpu7: node 0, package 0, core 3, smt 1 [ 1.04] acpi0 at mainbus0: Intel ACPICA 20221020 [ 1.04] acpi0: X/RSDT: OemId , AslId [ 1.04] acpi0: MCFG: segment 0, bus 0-63, address 0xf800 [ 1.04] ACPI: Dynamic OEM Table Load: [ 1.04] ACPI: SSDT 0xABAD69144C08 0003D3
Re: RPi 4b Wifi Device
> On Apr 20, 2024, at 1:01 AM, Thomas D. Dean wrote:
>
> On 4/19/24 18:35, Michael van Elst wrote:
>> tomd...@wavecable.com ("Thomas D. Dean") writes:
>>> How do I setup wpa_supplicant?
>> That depends on what you want to do.
>> Here are some examples:
>> https://wiki.netbsd.org/tutorials/how_to_use_wpa_supplicant/
>
> I saw that.
> dhcp is working over the wired connection.
>
> I thought I had everything configured for wifi. It just does not work.
>
> I have a cable modem <-> wifi/wired router. I have several machines
> connected. Linux and windoze, now. One RPi with NetBSD 10. Used to have some
> FreeBSD machines, but, they have been replaced.
>
> # etc/rc.d/wpa_supplicant reload
> Selected interface 'bwfm0'
> 21:58:35.931: OK
>
> # wpa_cli status
> Selected interface 'bwfm0'
> 21:58:44.815: bssid=60:38:e0:db:a9:7a
> freq=0
> ssid=tddhome
> id=0
> mode=station
> pairwise_cipher=TKIP
> group_cipher=TKIP
> key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
> wpa_state=GROUP_HANDSHAKE
> ip_address=169.254.135.120
> address=e4:5f:01:da:eb:46
>
> # ifconfig bwfm0
> bwfm0: flags=0x8843 mtu 1500
> ssid "" nwkey 65536:"","","",""
> powersave off
> address: e4:5f:01:da:eb:46
> media: IEEE802.11 autoselect (DS1 mode 11g)
> status: no network
> inet6 fe80::d7c0:41b9:46a5:a5ff%bwfm0/64 flags 0x8 scopeid 0x3
> inet 169.254.135.120/16 broadcast 169.254.255.255 flags 0x4
>
>
>
> I don't understand where the inet 169.254.135.120 comes from. The router pool
> is 192.168.1.xxx.
That's an APIPA address from block 169.254.0.0/16. dhcpcd gives the interface
an address from that block when it can't properly obtain one via DHCP, unless
instructed not to.
>
> Tom Dean
need your advice before new Raspberry Pi purchase
Hello, I am thinking about buying a more powerful Raspberry Pi than my actual Raspberry Pi ZeroW. I like very much how NetBSD operating system is working although I was a bit dissapointed with WIFI driver for the builtin WIFI device, I feel that I can control the OS and it is the OS I was looking for, simple and straightforward without bells and whistles. In general NetBSD works fine in the Pi once you get used to it, everything makes sense soon, you fell confortable and why not to say, I am in a new world after many years using Linux and needed new sensations. On the Zero W WIFI bwfm driver did not work well and overcome that buying a USB WIFI dongle with RTL 8188EU chip that works almost ok (with no channel switching in the router). Now I am going to use only ethernet network connection so WIFI will not be a problem. I have been reading https://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/evbarm/raspberry_pi/ but information is a bit confusing. "As of early 2024, NetBSD does not support the Raspberry Pi 5." Reading that I inmediatly discarded the Raspberry Pi 5 choice. Being realistic I think It does not work in NetBSD 10 now and I estimate it will not work well for perhaps some years. Life is short, I cannot wait and so I think RaspberryPi 4 should be my buying target. "NetBSD 10" "RPI4 general support (but there are issues)" Seems explained below. "RPI4 ethernet (Broadcom GENETv5) (but the man page for genet(4) is missing)" Can I be sure that ethernet will work fine and reliable? Network speed? "builtin bluetooth on RPI3 (RPI0W? RPI4?)" Does bluetooth work on the Pi4? "builtin WiFi on RPI0W, RPI3 and RPI4 - bwfm(4)" Does WIFI bwfm driver work as badly as in the ZeroW? Not relevant for my future use of the Pi 4 cause I will use it through ethernet but that will be a bonus, just curious. "RPI4 xhci does not work with a straight netbsd-10 install" I seems that below is the explanation. "RPI4 hardware rng does not work with a straight netbsd-10 install" I seems that below is the explanation. The following chapter is very confusing for me: "Issues and Workarounds" "RPI4 xhci" "With the netbsd-10 arm64.img on a RPI4 (most of them), the pci driver is missing and therefore xhci will not attach, so the USB ports will not work. One workaround is to switch to UEFI, but that leads to a 3GB memory limit and needing a monitor. Another is to add kernel config. One can also add the hardware rng. Adding the following to GENERIC64.local results in both working; you likely also need a dtb that includes the RNG. \todo Explain why this isn't in GENERIC64 or link to a PR. GENERIC64 bcm2838pcie* at fdt?# STB PCIe host controller bcm2838rng* at fdt? # RPI4 RNG There is some need to load firmware for the xhci driver, but apparently that works, once the above is added" Does it mean that using "traditional booting" you end with non working USB ports? Will you even end without keyboard? I mainly will use the Pi headless via ssh but need the keyboard in the first configuring steps. After switching to UEFI you will make USB ports work but 8 GB RapberryPi will be reduced to 3 GB only with no workaround? What do "needing a monitor" mean? Why? If the fix for USB and rng is recompiling the KERNEL, why is not enabled by default in the standard image? "RPI4 UEFI 3 GB" "To work around bugs in hardware (that may or may not be fixed in recent RPI4) and because not all OSes have workarounds, the UEFI firmware's default is to limit RAM to 3GB. NetBSD 10 can be used with more, so this needs to be configured in UEFI." That should be explained more in detail for newcomers. Last questions: Do GPIO pins work ok? Does I2C work? That is important for me cause I plan to read some sensors. Does HDMI output work or should I use serial console? traditional boot vs UEFI difference in this matter? What is your final opinion about NetBSD in that board? Are there better supported boards perhaps? Many thanks and sorry for so many questions, just I want to be sure that I am going to make a good and useful purchase. If I purchase a Rpi 4 instead of Rpi 5 to have NetBSD support and It does not work ok, it will be a absolute nonsense. I appreciate your work very much and your comments and advice will be welcome and very valuable for me. Thanks in advance. Ramiro.
Re: RPi 4b Wifi Device
I have Authentication timeout.
# wpa_cli
> scan_results
23:27:43.451: bssid / frequency / signal level / flags /
ssid60:38:e0:db:a9:7a 2462 227 [WPA-PSK-TKIP][ESS] tddhome
...
23:27:47.736: CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
23:27:47.736: Trying to associate with 60:38:e0:db:a9:7a
(SSID='tddhome' freq=2462 MHz)
23:27:52.874: Associated with 60:38:e0:db:a9:7a
23:28:02.888: Authentication with 60:38:e0:db:a9:7a timed out.
23:28:02.889: CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED bssid=60:38:e0:db:a9:7a
reason=3 locally_generated=1
23:28:02.889: CTRL-EVENT-SSID-TEMP-DISABLED id=0 ssid="tddhome"
auth_failures=1 duration=10 reason=CONN_FAILED
The linksys router uses WPA2/WPA mixed Personal. PSK is correct in
etc/wpa_supplicant.conf:
# cat /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=wheel
network={
ssid="tddhome"
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
psk="..."
}
Tom Dean
Re: need your advice before new Raspberry Pi purchase
On Sat, 20 Apr 2024, Ramiro Aceves wrote: Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2024 11:46:51 +0200 From: Ramiro Aceves To: netbsd-users@netbsd.org, port-...@netbsd.org Subject: need your advice before new Raspberry Pi purchase Hello, I am thinking about buying a more powerful Raspberry Pi than my actual Raspberry Pi ZeroW. I like very much how NetBSD operating system is working although I was a bit dissapointed with WIFI driver for the builtin WIFI device, I feel that I can control the OS and it is the OS I was looking for, simple and straightforward without bells and whistles. In general NetBSD works fine in the Pi once you get used to it, everything makes sense soon, you fell confortable and why not to say, I am in a new world after many years using Linux and needed new sensations. On the Zero W WIFI bwfm driver did not work well and overcome that buying a USB WIFI dongle with RTL 8188EU chip that works almost ok (with no channel switching in the router). Now I am going to use only ethernet network connection so WIFI will not be a problem. I have been reading https://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/evbarm/raspberry_pi/ but information is a bit confusing. "As of early 2024, NetBSD does not support the Raspberry Pi 5." Reading that I inmediatly discarded the Raspberry Pi 5 choice. Being realistic I think It does not work in NetBSD 10 now and I estimate it will not work well for perhaps some years. Life is short, I cannot wait and so I think RaspberryPi 4 should be my buying target. "NetBSD 10" "RPI4 general support (but there are issues)" Seems explained below. "RPI4 ethernet (Broadcom GENETv5) (but the man page for genet(4) is missing)" Can I be sure that ethernet will work fine and reliable? Network speed? "builtin bluetooth on RPI3 (RPI0W? RPI4?)" Does bluetooth work on the Pi4? "builtin WiFi on RPI0W, RPI3 and RPI4 - bwfm(4)" Does WIFI bwfm driver work as badly as in the ZeroW? Not relevant for my future use of the Pi 4 cause I will use it through ethernet but that will be a bonus, just curious. "RPI4 xhci does not work with a straight netbsd-10 install" I seems that below is the explanation. "RPI4 hardware rng does not work with a straight netbsd-10 install" I seems that below is the explanation. The following chapter is very confusing for me: "Issues and Workarounds" "RPI4 xhci" "With the netbsd-10 arm64.img on a RPI4 (most of them), the pci driver is missing and therefore xhci will not attach, so the USB ports will not work. One workaround is to switch to UEFI, but that leads to a 3GB memory limit and needing a monitor. Another is to add kernel config. One can also add the hardware rng. Adding the following to GENERIC64.local results in both working; you likely also need a dtb that includes the RNG. \todo Explain why this isn't in GENERIC64 or link to a PR. GENERIC64 bcm2838pcie* at fdt?# STB PCIe host controller bcm2838rng* at fdt? # RPI4 RNG There is some need to load firmware for the xhci driver, but apparently that works, once the above is added" Does it mean that using "traditional booting" you end with non working USB ports? Will you even end without keyboard? I mainly will use the Pi headless via ssh but need the keyboard in the first configuring steps. After switching to UEFI you will make USB ports work but 8 GB RapberryPi will be reduced to 3 GB only with no workaround? What do "needing a monitor" mean? Why? If the fix for USB and rng is recompiling the KERNEL, why is not enabled by default in the standard image? "RPI4 UEFI 3 GB" "To work around bugs in hardware (that may or may not be fixed in recent RPI4) and because not all OSes have workarounds, the UEFI firmware's default is to limit RAM to 3GB. NetBSD 10 can be used with more, so this needs to be configured in UEFI." That should be explained more in detail for newcomers. Last questions: Do GPIO pins work ok? Does I2C work? That is important for me cause I plan to read some sensors. Does HDMI output work or should I use serial console? traditional boot vs UEFI difference in this matter? What is your final opinion about NetBSD in that board? Are there better supported boards perhaps? Many thanks and sorry for so many questions, just I want to be sure that I am going to make a good and useful purchase. If I purchase a Rpi 4 instead of Rpi 5 to have NetBSD support and It does not work ok, it will be a absolute nonsense. I appreciate your work very much and your comments and advice will be welcome and very valuable for me. Thanks in advance. Ramiro. Thas what happens when you have an official wiki, people write wrong information even after been told that that information is not correct and doing an effort to explain in detail, after people pointing to that errors are ignored, after people asking to at least been able to comment to the wiki are ignored. Now you have a
Re: RPi 4b Wifi Device
On 4/19/24 18:35, Michael van Elst wrote:
tomd...@wavecable.com ("Thomas D. Dean") writes:
How do I setup wpa_supplicant?
That depends on what you want to do.
Here are some examples:
https://wiki.netbsd.org/tutorials/how_to_use_wpa_supplicant/
I saw that.
dhcp is working over the wired connection.
I thought I had everything configured for wifi. It just does not work.
I have a cable modem <-> wifi/wired router. I have several machines
connected. Linux and windoze, now. One RPi with NetBSD 10. Used to have
some FreeBSD machines, but, they have been replaced.
# etc/rc.d/wpa_supplicant reload
Selected interface 'bwfm0'
21:58:35.931: OK
# wpa_cli status
Selected interface 'bwfm0'
21:58:44.815: bssid=60:38:e0:db:a9:7a
freq=0
ssid=tddhome
id=0
mode=station
pairwise_cipher=TKIP
group_cipher=TKIP
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
wpa_state=GROUP_HANDSHAKE
ip_address=169.254.135.120
address=e4:5f:01:da:eb:46
# ifconfig bwfm0
bwfm0: flags=0x8843 mtu 1500
ssid "" nwkey 65536:"","","",""
powersave off
address: e4:5f:01:da:eb:46
media: IEEE802.11 autoselect (DS1 mode 11g)
status: no network
inet6 fe80::d7c0:41b9:46a5:a5ff%bwfm0/64 flags 0x8 scopeid 0x3
inet 169.254.135.120/16 broadcast 169.254.255.255 flags 0x4
I don't understand where the inet 169.254.135.120 comes from. The router
pool is 192.168.1.xxx.
Tom Dean
