Re: [newbie] Linux Fact or Fiction

2004-10-22 Thread Russell W. Behne
Yesterday at 23:31, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: I think you did a great job of summing it up. But one thing I have never seen talked about as a way to get a virus into a Linux system is to include it in an RPM. Lets face it, how many people actualy check the scripts that are run when an

[newbie] procmail stopped working

2004-10-22 Thread Russell W. Behne
I had tried to install a groupware program tthat only succeded in screwing up my mail system completly. I removed it, did an rpm -e postscript, then re-installed postscript and got it working again, but for some unknown reason I just can't get procmail working again. Can someone

Re: [newbie] eth0 won't initialize on startup

2004-10-22 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 22 Oct 2004 01:00, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Thursday 21 October 2004 12:42 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 21 Oct 2004 16:50, David Johnson wrote: snip As for my replyto: address, what should it be set for? For mailing lists it should be set to blank. It is often a

Re: [newbie] Where have all the kernel source gone ?

2004-10-22 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 21 Oct 2004 23:32, Margot wrote: Dan Gordon wrote: On October 21, 2004 05:19 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: Yes, Dan. Go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and get some cooker sources. There you will find 2.6.8.1-12mdk and its source rpm. This will be in 10.1 Official, I believe. Anne Ahh ok

Re: [newbie] Linux Fact or Fiction

2004-10-22 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 22 Oct 2004 05:31, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: John Wilson wrote: - snip John, I think you did a great job of summing it up. But one thing I have never seen talked about as a way to get a virus into a Linux system is to include it in an RPM. Lets

Re: [newbie] Where have all the kernel source gone ?

2004-10-22 Thread Margot
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 21 Oct 2004 23:32, Margot wrote: Dan Gordon wrote: On October 21, 2004 05:19 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: Yes, Dan. Go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and get some cooker sources. There you will find 2.6.8.1-12mdk and its source rpm. This will be in 10.1 Official, I believe. Anne

Re: [newbie] procmail stopped working

2004-10-22 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 22 October 2004 07:32, Russell W. Behne wrote: I had tried to install a groupware program tthat only succeded in screwing up my mail system completly. I removed it, did an rpm -e postscript, then re-installed postscript and got it working again, but for some unknown reason I just

Re: [newbie] Linux Fact or Fiction

2004-10-22 Thread Alexander Ruoff
John, I think you did a great job of summing it up. But one thing I have never seen talked about as a way to get a virus into a Linux system is to include it in an RPM. Lets face it, how many people actualy check the scripts that are run when an rpm is installed? Do you check that

Re: [newbie] RSS feeds reader

2004-10-22 Thread Rick Kunath
Adolfo Bello wrote: BottomFeeder looked pretty rough for me here on Linux. Any advantage over RSSowl ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/rssowl/ ) ? I've been using RSSowl and find it works well. Sage an add-on for Firefox, Mozilla, or Thunderbird also does the job. Rick Kunath

Re: [newbie] Linux Fact or Fiction

2004-10-22 Thread Brandon Rife
John Wilson wrote: On October 21, 2004 04:11 pm, Elliot Somers wrote: This is a pretty general question, I've heard it said by one party that linux/unix is virus proof, other's say it's that virus authors go after the big guys, so MS, wintel servers, etc. What I want to know is what's true and

Re: [newbie] RSS feeds reader

2004-10-22 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Fri, 2004-10-22 at 07:33 -0400, Rick Kunath wrote: BottomFeeder looked pretty rough for me here on Linux. Any advantage over RSSowl ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/rssowl/ ) ? I've been using RSSowl and find it works well. Sage an add-on for Firefox, Mozilla, or Thunderbird also does

Re: [newbie] Linux Fact or Fiction

2004-10-22 Thread cervixcouch
On Friday 22 Oct 2004 05:31, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: John Wilson wrote: - snip John, I think you did a great job of summing it up. But one thing I have never seen talked about as a way to get a virus into a Linux system is to include it in an RPM. Lets

Re: [newbie] Where have all the kernel source gone ?

2004-10-22 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday 21 October 2004 05:32 pm, Margot wrote: Dan Gordon wrote: On October 21, 2004 05:19 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: Yes, Dan. Go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and get some cooker sources. There you will find 2.6.8.1-12mdk and its source rpm. This will be in 10.1 Official, I believe. Anne

Re: [newbie] Linux Fact or Fiction

2004-10-22 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 22 Oct 2004 14:42, cervixcouch wrote: So how exactly does one safeguard against a trojan when installing an RPM? You don't install rpms from sources that are not well-known to be reputable - Mandrake mirrors, Sourceforge sites, PLF mirrors are OK, and there are others. If you don't

[newbie] Stuck on a network problem

2004-10-22 Thread Alan Dunford
Here I run a simple network with three machines - two running Mandrake 10.0 and one running Windows. The second Linux machine operates as a server on which I back up files from the other two. Currently the server has a monitor, keyboard and mouse but I would like to run it as a straight

Re: [newbie] Linux Fact or Fiction

2004-10-22 Thread Lanman
Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 22 Oct 2004 14:42, cervixcouch wrote: So how exactly does one safeguard against a trojan when installing an RPM? You don't install rpms from sources that are not well-known to be reputable - Mandrake mirrors, Sourceforge sites, PLF mirrors are OK, and there are

RE: [newbie] Stuck on a network problem

2004-10-22 Thread Bill Shirley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -q tightvnc-server tightvnc-server-1.2.9-4mdk Edit /etc/init.d/vncserver and make the top look like this: #!/bin/bash # # chkconfig: 2345 91 35 # description: Starts and stops vncserver. \ # used to provide remote X administration services. USER=root

[newbie] ML and slow DSL

2004-10-22 Thread Marc
This may be on the boarder line of off topic. For about the last week about half of the web sites that I go to work normally and the other half have about a half minute delay before a page starts to load. The slow ones are always slow and the fast ones are always fast. Up until a week ago

Re: [newbie] Stuck on a network problem

2004-10-22 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 22 October 2004 16:38, Alan Dunford wrote: Here I run a simple network with three machines - two running Mandrake 10.0 and one running Windows. The second Linux machine operates as a server on which I back up files from the other two. Currently the server has a monitor, keyboard

Re: [newbie] Where have all the kernel source gone ?

2004-10-22 Thread Dan Gordon
On October 22, 2004 09:57 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: BUT, do it _now_! Cooker will unfreeze and begin 10.2 development shortly. As to Dan's misgivings, using 2.6.8.1-12 kernel and kernel-source from a cooker mirror will not pose a problem on a 10.1 system. This kernel has been in use for

[newbie] Uptime question

2004-10-22 Thread David Johnson
For my next question: I'm wondering how uptime keeps track of how long the server has been running. The reason I ask is that I have a couple of ML10 boxes running in a production environment on VMWare ESX servers. These servers never REALLY know how long they have been up. They always report

Re: [newbie] ML and slow DSL

2004-10-22 Thread Drew Poland
No clue, but I am having the same problem. :( http://mandrakeusers.org/index.php?showtopic=19727 Drew On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:09:26 -0500, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be on the boarder line of off topic. For about the last week about half of the web sites that I go to work normally

[newbie] How to find out package dependencies when using a windows machine to download?

2004-10-22 Thread Sandaruwan Wijenayake
Hello, I'm not very experienced with Linux. Few weeks ago I downloaded Mandrake 10.1 and installed as a dual booting on my windows PC. Problem is that I do not have any internet access from home. Therefore I have to download any additional packages that are not included in 3 installation CDs at

Re: [newbie] Stuck on a network problem

2004-10-22 Thread Randall D. Hobbs
On Friday 22 October 2004 10:28 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Why not simply use ssh? It's very much more secure and allows you total remote control. With X forwarding enabled (default in MDK) and a fast connection you can run any app (including VNC-server) on a remote client whereas with a slow

Re: [newbie] ML and slow DSL

2004-10-22 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 22 October 2004 16:09, Marc wrote: This may be on the boarder line of off topic. For about the last week about half of the web sites that I go to work normally and the other half have about a half minute delay before a page starts to load. The slow ones are always slow and the fast

Re: [newbie] ML and slow DSL

2004-10-22 Thread mjt42
Here is where it all gets strange. Everything is still fast when using windoze. I use a dial-up connection. I experience the same slow performance with Mandrake vs Windows. Downloads speeds with Windows ranges from 50 to 200% faster vs Mandrake. Michael

Re: [newbie] ML and slow DSL

2004-10-22 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 22 October 2004 17:14, mjt42 wrote: Here is where it all gets strange. Everything is still fast when using windoze. I use a dial-up connection. I experience the same slow performance with Mandrake vs Windows. Downloads speeds with Windows ranges from 50 to 200% faster vs

Re: [newbie] Linux Fact or Fiction

2004-10-22 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 22 October 2004 12:56, Brandon Rife wrote: John Wilson wrote: On October 21, 2004 04:11 pm, Elliot Somers wrote: This is a pretty general question, I've heard it said by one party that linux/unix is virus proof, other's say it's that virus authors go after the big guys, so MS,

Re: [newbie] ML and slow DSL

2004-10-22 Thread mjt42
Are you by any chance using a Winmodem? And is that modem using the HSF or HCF driver from www.linuxant.com (included in Mandrake Powerpack or from MandrakeClub)? No. I use an external serial port modem. Michael Want to buy your Pack

Re: [newbie] Linux Fact or Fiction

2004-10-22 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
cervixcouch wrote: So how exactly does one safeguard against a trojan when installing an RPM? Check the signiture of the RPM, to be sure it is realy from the source you think it is. You can also look at the file list, and the scripts that are run when installing, removing, ect. I use Midnight

Re: [newbie] How to find out package dependencies when using a windows machine to download?

2004-10-22 Thread Aron Smith
On Friday 22 October 2004 08:46 am, Sandaruwan Wijenayake wrote: Hello, I'm not very experienced with Linux. Few weeks ago I downloaded Mandrake 10.1 and installed as a dual booting on my windows PC. Problem is that I do not have any internet access from home. Therefore I have to download any

Re: [newbie] procmail stopped working

2004-10-22 Thread Russell W. Behne
Today at 11:51, Derek Jennings wrote: On Friday 22 October 2004 07:32, Russell W. Behne wrote: I had tried to install a groupware program that only succeeded in screwing up my mail system completely. I removed it, did an rpm -e postscript, then re-installed postscript and got it working

Re: [newbie] procmail stopped working

2004-10-22 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 22 October 2004 19:11, Russell W. Behne wrote: Ok, sorry. I thought I had explained precisely what the problem is. Let me try again this way: 1. everything was working fine for the past 7 years. 2. I installed the groupware program from the control panel using `configure

Re: [newbie] SOLVED: procmail stopped working

2004-10-22 Thread Russell W. Behne
Today at 19:41, Derek Jennings wrote: Your main.cf differs from mine in these respects I have mail_spool_directory=/var/spool/mail mailbox_command=/usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN Ach, that's it! Ok. I put those two lines in my main.cf, and waited to see what would happen, and BINGO! It's

[newbie] How to patch a kernel

2004-10-22 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All Could someone here please give me some directions about how to patch a kernel? Thanks in advance, Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club :

Re: [newbie] Uptime question

2004-10-22 Thread Russell W. Behne
Today at 08:39, David Johnson wrote: For my next question: I'm wondering how uptime keeps track of how long the server has been running. The reason I ask is that I have a couple of ML10 boxes running in a production environment on VMWare ESX servers. These servers never REALLY know how long

Re: [newbie] Uptime question

2004-10-22 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Russell W. Behne wrote: Today at 08:39, David Johnson wrote: For my next question: I'm wondering how uptime keeps track of how long the server has been running. The reason I ask is that I have a couple of ML10 boxes running in a production environment on VMWare ESX servers. These servers never

[newbie] HTML Wysiwyg

2004-10-22 Thread Elliot Somers
I have been googling for a good Wysiwyg for linux (MDK) that would allow for easy content update. I haven't found anything GPL that looks decent. The content is already written, just the prices, and various info needs updating from time to time and I don't know HTML. Frontpage once worked

Re: [newbie] Linux Fact or Fiction

2004-10-22 Thread Ron Hunter-Duvar
On October 22, 2004 10:54, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: cervixcouch wrote: So how exactly does one safeguard against a trojan when installing an RPM? Check the signiture of the RPM, to be sure it is realy from the source you think it is. You can also look at the file list, and the scripts

Re: [newbie] HTML Wysiwyg

2004-10-22 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 22 October 2004 23:53, Elliot Somers wrote: I have been googling for a good Wysiwyg for linux (MDK) that would allow for easy content update. I haven't found anything GPL that looks decent. The content is already written, just the prices, and various info needs updating from

Re: [newbie] Linux Fact or Fiction

2004-10-22 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 22 October 2004 23:27, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: Of course, you have to trust that the key hasn't been tampered with as well. The really paranoid among us rely on key signatures exchanged by some other channel, such as telephone, to verify a key before installing it. The really

Re: [newbie] HTML Wysiwyg

2004-10-22 Thread frankieh
Elliot Somers wrote: I have been googling for a good Wysiwyg for linux (MDK) that would allow for easy content update. I haven't found anything GPL that looks decent. The content is already written, just the prices, and various info needs updating from time to time and I don't know HTML.

Re: [newbie] Uptime question

2004-10-22 Thread David Johnson
Actually, these boxes can't keep time to save their lives. I'm seeing errors in the logs about NTP being unable to update the clock, etc (I can dig them up if it would help). Everything I've been able to find so far points to a bug in the Kernel that still has not been fixed, but I can't imagine

Re: [newbie] How to find out package dependencies when using a windows machine to download?

2004-10-22 Thread JoeHill
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:46:24 +0200 Sandaruwan Wijenayake disseminated the following: Just for an explanation... I come up with this problem when I needed to install a package that I got as a source rpm. I tried to build it in my home PC and find out that I need to install rpm-build package

Re: [newbie] How to find out package dependencies when using a windows machine to download?

2004-10-22 Thread JoeHill
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:07:06 -0700 Aron Smith disseminated the following: Try using urpmi as root and use your cds as sources Okay, seriously, if you don't start snipping your replies, I'm gonna come down there and do something highly unpleasant, like...stay for a visit! -- JoeHill / RLU

[newbie] Security maniac ?

2004-10-22 Thread Kaj Haulrich
I just followed Tom's advice and upgraded to the present cooker, including the (separate) install of the new kernel. Everything seem to work perfectly. So, now I supposedly run the upcoming 10.1 Official - right ? Just after that I received the usual alert from Mandrake about security

Re: [newbie] How to find out package dependencies when using a windows machine to download?

2004-10-22 Thread Aron Smith
On Friday 22 October 2004 04:07 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:07:06 -0700 Aron Smith disseminated the following: Try using urpmi as root and use your cds as sources Okay, seriously, if you don't start snipping your replies, I'm gonna come down there and do something highly

[newbie] virus

2004-10-22 Thread Tom Karen Pino
To anyone this may concern, I received this notice from my ISP today. A message which was sent to you by Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] has been identified by our virus filter as being contaminated with a virus. For your protection, the original message has been placed into the greymail quarantine area.

Re: [newbie] virus

2004-10-22 Thread Randall D. Hobbs
On Friday 22 October 2004 07:39 pm, Tom Karen Pino wrote: A message which was sent to you by Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] has been identified by our virus filter as being contaminated with a virus. For your protection, the original message has been placed into the greymail quarantine area. To