On Monday 11 April 2005 05:59 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Monday 11 Apr 2005 12:04, Dobrescu Mihai wrote:
Dear community,
After the merge, what happents to the distro?
Will be any free version available?
I used MDK for 2 years...
I've started to love it!
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Q1. Will the Limited
On a shut down I got a strange yellow screen, had to power down. On reboot I
had disk errors. I let the boot loader 'fix' them (with risk of lost data).
After reboot, some task icons and desktop icons were missing and Mozilla lost
it settings/bookmarks. I was able to recover OK except for
On Friday 11 March 2005 02:14 pm, Paul Smith wrote:
Dear All
How can I know whether the following DVD recorder is compatible with
Mandrake 10.1:
Nec - Recorder DVD ND-3520A Double Layer 16x bulk ?
Thanks in advance,
Paul
Paul,
You can try looking in the hardware database
Is there a setting for system wide default browser? In particular, Kontact
uses Konqueror as the browser. I would like it to be Mozilla. I look in
Kontact configure but did not see an appropriate setting. Anybody know how
to change it?
Mike
On Tuesday 22 February 2005 01:43 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 22 Feb 2005 14:55, Mike Adolf wrote:
Is there a setting for system wide default browser? In particular,
Kontact uses Konqueror as the browser. I would like it to be Mozilla. I
look in Kontact configure but did not see
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 12:19 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike Adolf wrote:
Mike,
Don't worry about it. It sound like the driver is doing something for
you that I wasn't expecting. In the long run, it will make things less
complicated for people. It will make things interesting
On Sunday 13 February 2005 01:54 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike Adolf wrote:
On Saturday 12 February 2005 09:54 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
I guess the driver, or udev, is translating the partition table or
something, so that /dev/hdd is what would be /dev/hdd4 in 9.2. I'll have
Mike,
Don't worry about it. It sound like the driver is doing something for
you that I wasn't expecting. In the long run, it will make things less
complicated for people. It will make things interesting for people with
both 2.4.x and 2.6.x kernels, but things are interesting for them
On Saturday 12 February 2005 09:54 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike Adolf wrote:
On Saturday 12 February 2005 04:31 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
This is strange. /dev/hdd should be the entire ZIP disk, including the
partition table. /dev/hdd4 should be the partition with the data
On Saturday 12 February 2005 11:08 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike Adolf wrote:
[REMOVED earlier text]
I was just doing some re-reading of your message. Your ZIP device should
not be /dev/hdd. You say it is the slave on the first IDE channel?
Ribbon1: Lite On DVD writer and Zip 100
On Saturday 12 February 2005 01:34 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike Adolf wrote:
After I did as you suggested, messages contained:
Feb 12 09:24:42 mlnx kernel: ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide
Feb 12 09:24:42 mlnx kernel: hdd: No disk in drive
Feb 12 09:24:42 mlnx kernel
On Saturday 12 February 2005 04:31 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike Adolf wrote:
On Saturday 12 February 2005 01:34 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike Adolf wrote:
After I did as you suggested, messages contained:
Feb 12 09:24:42 mlnx kernel: ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide
[REMOVED earlier text]
I was just doing some re-reading of your message. Your ZIP device should
not be /dev/hdd. You say it is the slave on the first IDE channel?
Ribbon1: Lite On DVD writer and Zip 100
This would be /dev/hdb, not /dev/hdd. So this would be something like
On Thursday 10 February 2005 11:12 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
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On Wednesday 09 Feb 2005 20:02, Mike Adolf wrote:
After installing 10.1 my zip was not recognized, no entry in fstab.
Tried to create device using Create
On Thursday 10 February 2005 05:15 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike Adolf wrote:
On Thursday 10 February 2005 11:12 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
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On Wednesday 09 Feb 2005 20:02, Mike Adolf wrote:
After installing 10.1
On Thursday 10 February 2005 07:33 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike Adolf wrote:
On Thursday 10 February 2005 05:15 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
It could be that the device for the ZIP drive is being created as
something other then a /dev/hdx...
Mikkel
Output of ide-devfs.sh
After installing 10.1 my zip was not recognized, no entry in fstab. Tried to
create device using Create New/Device/Zip Device from the desktop (right
click). An icon appeared but it won't mount (as root). Tried to create a
device using makedev /dev/hdd4 (4 since I want vfat and windows uses
On Monday 07 February 2005 03:42 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Monday 07 Feb 2005 02:56, Marek Pawinski wrote:
Mike Adolf wrote:
Any recommendations (or horror stories) for a dual layer DVD drives? I
am looking at the Sony DAU 710A ($90 - $100) and the LiteOn SOHW-1213S.
($80).
Mike
Any recommendations (or horror stories) for a dual layer DVD drives? I am
looking at the Sony DAU 710A ($90 - $100) and the LiteOn SOHW-1213S. ($80).
Mike
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On Wednesday 02 February 2005 08:25 pm, Mike Adolf wrote:
I am doing a Qt 3 tutorial and it uses casts like Q_UNIT32, Q_ UNIT16
Does any one know what header is needed for compilation?
Mike
NEVERMIND!!
Mike
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On Thursday 03 February 2005 12:25 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike Adolf wrote:
On Wednesday 02 February 2005 01:54 am, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
Gentle folks,
I use KPPP to dial-in my ISP. Whenever I dial-up
for the first time (after the system boot up), the
link gets broken
I am relatively new at C++/QT and I can't get the following to compile.
Note the declaration of the operator overload in class Employee. If instead
I put the implementation here, it compiles. But if the impmentation is
placed outside of the class declaration as is done below, I get the
I am doing a Qt 3 tutorial and it uses casts like Q_UNIT32, Q_ UNIT16 Does
any one know what header is needed for compilation?
Mike
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On Wednesday 02 February 2005 01:54 am, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
Gentle folks,
I use KPPP to dial-in my ISP. Whenever I dial-up
for the first time (after the system boot up), the
link gets broken and the next time the link is
fine. Of course, using the proper username and
password both tries.
Just installed 10.1 Official on a compac preserio. The installation video
appeared normal during installation, but when I rebooted I just got a black
screen. How does one even begin to solve that kind of problem?
Mike
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On Sunday 30 January 2005 08:28 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
On Sunday 30 January 2005 03:45 pm, Mike Adolf wrote:
Just installed 10.1 Official on a compac preserio. The installation
video appeared normal during installation, but when I rebooted I just got
a black screen. How does one even
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 09:22 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 09:58 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 11:21, Mike Adolf wrote:
I was doing the QT designer tutorial, it directed me to
browse to locate an icon called tabwidget.png. This icon and
others
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 09:22 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 09:58 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 11:21, Mike Adolf wrote:
I was doing the QT designer tutorial, it directed me to
browse to locate an icon called tabwidget.png. This icon and
others
On Monday 24 January 2005 06:09 am, et wrote:
On Sunday 23 January 2005 04:22 pm, Mike Adolf wrote:
On Sunday 23 January 2005 02:19 pm, Siposs Attila wrote:
2005. január 23. 17.12 dátummal Mike Adolf ezt írta:
I recently went to 10.1 and now would like to set up a simple home
network
I was doing the QT designer tutorial, it directed me to browse to locate an
icon called tabwidget.png. This icon and others used in the tutorial are not
in my installation of 10.1, which includes the development packages. All
autoupdates were also run during installation. Is this an oversite
I recently went to 10.1 and now would like to set up a simple home network
consisting of:
Dlink DI-514 router connected to my linux box (it has my cloned mac)
XP wireless labtop
Another XP 10/100 connected machine.
I would like to:
share printer (connected to my linux box)
share files between
Blah Blah
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On Sunday 23 January 2005 02:19 pm, Siposs Attila wrote:
2005. január 23. 17.12 dátummal Mike Adolf ezt írta:
I recently went to 10.1 and now would like to set up a simple home
network consisting of:
Dlink DI-514 router connected to my linux box (it has my cloned mac)
XP wireless labtop
Thanks for the information, it was very helpful. I think I will go for the
350. If it doesn't work on MDK, I will just use it on my windows XP boot.
Mike
- Original Message -
From: Scott Mazur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 3:54 PM
Subject: Re:
I am using dvdrip to copy a dvd and during the burn phase I get:
*
ERROR: Cannot open SCSI device '1,0,0' cannot open /dev/sg.
*
The (1,0,0) I put in as the 'cdrecord device' it stands for device location
bus,target,lun
I have nothing
On Friday 21 May 2004 02:52 pm, Andrew Archibald wrote:
On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 17:17, Mike Adolf wrote:
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--- FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part5
Greetings
If I do 'df' if get
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part7
49G 755M 48G 2% /home
Says I have 48G free.
If I run a C program calling statfs(/home, fs), I get:
type of filesystem = 61267
optimal transfer block size = 4096
total data blocks in file system=
On Saturday 17 April 2004 12:22 am, Rory wrote:
Nothing works except ksCD, and somebody wrote that it's because it cabled
(but it won't work with any other dirver).
Ahh, very interesting. This is *exactly* the same pattern I have.
Something definitely broke between 9.x and 10.0.
It is
On Saturday 17 April 2004 11:26 am, Laura Callier wrote:
Well, I've learned a Linux lessonI have a winmodem on my Dell 8300
Dimension desktop computer. None of the distros I've tried, including
Mandrake, will accept it. So, I did some research last night and learned
that an external
On Saturday 17 April 2004 12:29 pm, Rory wrote:
On Saturday 17 April 2004 9:53 am, Ian MacGregor wrote:
I have been using a download edition which I purchased from
almostfreelinux.com about 3 months ago for $10.00 US.
I'm familiar with almostfreelinux.com. Are there other CD-purchase sites
On Saturday 17 April 2004 12:22 am, Rory wrote:
Nothing works except ksCD, and somebody wrote that it's because it cabled
(but it won't work with any other dirver).
Ahh, very interesting. This is *exactly* the same pattern I have.
Something definitely broke between 9.x and 10.0.
It is
Everyone must be sick of posts about 10.0 sound problems, so here's another
one.
I upgraded from 9.1, where all forms of sound worked great, CD, DVD, mp3,
startup and shutdown ... My card is cs4236b. On 9.1 everything only worked
with driver cs4232 (don't ask me why).
Now on 10.0, the
On Tuesday 30 March 2004 08:05 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 19:17:35 -0700
Mike Adolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
libdvdread.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory
The make install placed libdvdread.so.3 (as a sym link to another so)
in /usr
On Tuesday 30 March 2004 12:14 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:15:24 -0700
Mike Adolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can anyone explain this?
urpmi dvdbackup
*
To satisfy dependencies
When I boot MDK 9.1 and open my zip icon I get the error.
Could not enter directory /mnt/zip
fstab associates /dev/sda4 with /mnt/zip.
If I umount zip and then edit fstab to change sda4 to sda, all works well
after a remount using mount /mnt/zip.
Hears the rub! The next time I boot, fstab
On Tuesday 16 March 2004 09:50 am, Greg Meyer wrote:
On Monday 15 March 2004 06:46 pm, Mike Adolf wrote:
Not necessary unless you would like to experience the thrill of
building your own kernel, in which case you will want to install the
kernel-source package and then follow the various
I am now runing kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk in mdk 9.1 and would like to upgrade to
2.4.21.0.28mdk. Rpmdrake list 5 flavors of the 0.28. under update.
Standard, enterprise, secure, smp, and source. Since the machine is non-net
wrokstation, I guess I would use
kernel-2.4.21.0.28mdk rpm
What
I was trying voice recording using rec/play. Play seems to work ok since a
downloaded .wav sounds good. But, rec only produces an faint static
recording. Aumix seems set OK. (the button under rec column is red). One
strange thing. My mic feeds through to my speakers, a loud speaker system, in
On Monday 15 March 2004 08:03 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
On Monday 15 March 2004 03:59 pm, Mike Adolf wrote:
I am now runing kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk in mdk 9.1 and would like to
upgrade to 2.4.21.0.28mdk. Rpmdrake list 5 flavors of the 0.28. under
update.
Standard, enterprise, secure, smp
On Monday 15 March 2004 08:03 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
On Monday 15 March 2004 03:59 pm, Mike Adolf wrote:
I am now runing kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk in mdk 9.1 and would like to
upgrade to 2.4.21.0.28mdk. Rpmdrake list 5 flavors of the 0.28. under
update.
Standard, enterprise, secure, smp
On Friday 05 March 2004 08:23 pm, David B. Carter wrote:
Mike Adolf said:
I have not read all the correspondence on this problem, so I may be
suggesting
something already tried. I also have the same sound system as you. For a
long time I used 4236 driver (on MDK 91) and I could play CDs
On Thursday 26 February 2004 12:29 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
Mike Adolf wrote:
On Wednesday 25 February 2004 02:03 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote:
El mié, 25-02-2004 a las 11:09, Mike Adolf escribió:
Is there some trick to reading a CD written in Windose. I have a Liteon
DVD+/-R CD+/-RW. I
On Thursday 26 February 2004 05:59 am, et wrote:
On Wednesday 25 February 2004 02:03 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote:
El mié, 25-02-2004 a las 11:09, Mike Adolf escribió:
Is there some trick to reading a CD written in Windose. I have a Liteon
DVD+/-R CD+/-RW. I wrote it with SONIC's produce
On Wednesday 25 February 2004 02:41 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
I'd wait until you have a distro that uses 2.6 without you
having to worry about libraries, etc..
Thanks, I'll probably wait, nothing critical, just testing.
mike
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On Wednesday 25 February 2004 02:03 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote:
El mi, 25-02-2004 a las 11:09, Mike Adolf escribi:
Is there some trick to reading a CD written in Windose. I have a Liteon
DVD+/-R CD+/-RW. I wrote it with SONIC's produce MyDEV, I think! I did
the
What do you get when you
Is there some trick to reading a CD written in Windose. I have a Liteon
DVD+/-R CD+/-RW. I wrote it with SONIC's produce MyDEV, I think! I did the
copy by drag drop. Do some vender products write CDs, linux can't read.
I'm running MDK 9.1
mike
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A while ago I sent mail indicating that when I did
"Update" in the 9.2 installer, it all but trashed by dual boot machine. No boot
window and Windows would never boot (yea I know that's a good thing) and when
9.2 booted every thing was screwed up. I got one reply which said I should
have
On Monday 19 January 2004 10:09 am, Aron Smith wrote:
Thanks everyone, I found some 700mb.
mike
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:59:25 -0800
Michael.Adolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I downloaded cd 1,2,3 iso for 92. The problem is cds 2 and 3
are greater than 650 meg. Are there CDs that hold more
On Monday 19 January 2004 11:00 am, Poogle wrote:
On Monday 19 Jan 2004 17:09, Aron Smith wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:59:25 -0800
Michael.Adolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I downloaded cd 1,2,3 iso for 92. The problem is cds 2 and 3
are greater than 650 meg. Are there CDs that hold
Did a urpmi.addmedia contrib ftp://ftp...
and got the error
-
retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of contrib...
ftp://ftp.tugraz.at/mirror/Mandrake-linux/Mandrake/9.1/i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 9 or signal 0
I have a new Pentax Optio 555 connected to my USB port. Windoze sees it but
on linux both FLPhoto and GTKam say camera not detected. In GTKam the list
from Add Camera did not list any Pentax. Any suggestions?
Thanks
Mike
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On Friday 02 January 2004 07:10 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote:
On Friday 02 January 2004 05:45 pm, Mike Adolf wrote:
I have a new Pentax Optio 555 connected to my USB port. Windoze sees it
but on linux both FLPhoto and GTKam say camera not detected. In GTKam
the list from Add Camera did
Mike, go to rpmfind and copy/paste the filename I gave you. It will
link you to a source that offers the rpm. Simply save it to a temp
directory. You can install it from there.
Anne
Got it, and installed it. Now all I have to do is read it!
Thanks,
Mike
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Johan,
Try jGnash http://jgnash.sourceforge.net/ a platform independent Java .jar
file. It has some of the same stuff as gnucash. I have it on my windoze
partition so I can access from windoze or mandrake.
Mike
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To: newbie [EMAIL
On Saturday 27 December 2003 04:31 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 26 December 2003 19:35, Mike Adolf wrote:
On Friday 26 December 2003 04:04 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 26 December 2003 01:22, Mike Adolf wrote:
Went to the Welcom to MandrakeGalaxy screen and press
On Saturday 27 December 2003 03:47 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 27 December 2003 14:47, Mike Adolf wrote:
On Saturday 27 December 2003 04:31 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 26 December 2003 19:35, Mike Adolf wrote:
On Friday 26 December 2003 04:04 am, Anne Wilson wrote
On Friday 26 December 2003 04:04 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 26 December 2003 01:22, Mike Adolf wrote:
Went to the Welcom to MandrakeGalaxy screen and press
documentaiton icon but only got:
Unable to run the command specified. The file or directory
file:/usr/share/doc/mandrake/en
On Sunday 30 November 2003 08:08 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
On Sunday 30 Nov 2003 12:28 pm, JoeHill wrote:
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:35:43 -0500
Mike Adolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I added a second user using userdrake. When I tried to logon to the new
account. I get No Write Permission
Sometimes linux looses it.
I added a second user using userdrake. When I tried to logon to the new
account. I get No Write Permission on HOME KDE can't start. SO, although
the new home has the same permissions as my home, I change the permission to
777 on new HOME. Tried to log on again
On Thursday 27 November 2003 03:07 pm, robin wrote:
Mike Adolf wrote:
Anybody know of a modem that works with XP and linux?
The supported hardware page will give you a list:
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/hardware.php3
As others have pointed out, any hardware modem should work fine
Anybody know of a modem that works with XP and linux?
mike
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status.
I'm by no means an expert, so I cannot guarantee it will work for you
like it did for me.less /etc/modules.conf | sound
good luck,
raffaele
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On Monday 24 November 2003 07:14 pm, Mike Adolf wrote
Greetings All!
I downloaded kiconedit-0.3.2 and ran ./configure.
error 1: can't find qt libraries.
I found /usr/lib/qt3 driectory and ran ./configure --with-qt-dir /usr/lib/qt3
It seemed to like it but I then got:
error2: ltconfig: you must specify a host type if you use `--no-verify'
Try
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:42 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
On Thursday 23 Oct 2003 12:56 am, Mike Adolf wrote:
I am looking at a language web site that has video and auto links. When
activated from Windows/IE, real player one comes up and does its thing.
When I use Konqueror or Modzilla
I am looking at a language web site that has video and auto links. When
activated from Windows/IE, real player one comes up and does its thing. When
I use Konqueror or Modzilla, a save/open dialog appears. What video/audio
app do I use to open the files. If I try to 'save' I get 135 B and
I was able to send a FAX using KdeprintFax. Now I would like to configure my
system to receive a fax. I've started to read about mgetty. I read the
following:
mgetty allows you to make optimum use of your modem or fax modem in a unix
environment. mgetty handles incoming calls without
I am having problems download pictures from my fuji mx 2900. Using GTKam, if
I select to 'add camera' and then select 'detect' button, I get no camera
found. My camera is hooked to the serial port, turned on, and set to
communicate with the pc. If I select fuji mx 2900 (from a list) during
Greetings All.
I am working through the instructions for building a lexmark z55 sample print
driver. I was asked to check for the presence of two system libraries (sigc++
and gtkmm) using 'pkg-config --list-all | grep sigc++'. pkg-config failed
with the message:
I just read the guick starts for both KDeveloper and QT. KDeveloper has QT in
its tool menu but QT seems to be a stand-alone IDE (with widgets). What is
the intended relationship/usage between KDeveloper and QT.
thanks
mike
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Well! This is what I did -- not pretty! I reinstalled 9.1. I let the
installer select the defaut driver cs46xx. After installation, I selectively
installed alsa. Rebooted, cs46xx failed to load. Went to harddrake and
selected driver cs4232. Rebooted, cs4243 loaded. Now there is a speaker on
On Tuesday 29 July 2003 02:05 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 5:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ..
HardDrake recommends somelike (I not at my machine) cs49xx but if
you use that one it errors out on boot. I have it set at cs4232
and it
On Monday 28 July 2003 08:44 am, Frans Ketelaars wrote:
On Monday 28 July 2003 02:19, Mike Adolf wrote:
On Sunday 27 July 2003 08:07 pm, Eric Huff wrote:
alsamixergui might save you. If not, i'm not sure what to do about
aumix not running.
Maybe delete ~/.aumixrc ?
Anyway
After I installed 9.1 a while ago, I used aumix to uncheck Mute All, and the
sound worked. Next time I booted it was check on again. I unchecked it,
saved, quit aumix, started it again and it was ckecked again. Went round and
round with aumix with no luck. NOW it won't even come up. Run from
I asked this question before by my email went down and could not get a reply.
Selecting logout from KDE (mandrake 9.1) you get an opportunity to reboot. If
you choose to do so, sometimes you get a window with a dragon and three
choices, sometimes you get the same OS list displayed by lilo, and
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