Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-06 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 01:45, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 01:26:54 -0400 Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Go easy, Charles; this is the newbie list and we don't know anything about him. I meant no offence to him personally only to his usage of applications. Were there no linux MUA

Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-06 Thread Margot
Julie Sloan wrote: snip Julie PS I am here because someone on the linuxchix mailing list said this is a good forum for newbies to learn - and I've already found lotsa nice links in the links section. the top ten commands site has been especially helpful so far. Glad you made it over here,

RE: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-06 Thread Tomas Tudja
and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert) On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 06:15:54 +0100 Tomas Tudja wrote: Sorry, I didn't understand a word of the second part of your post : It means that regardless of What you are using as a firewall OE is itself intrinsically non-secure and is the method of choice

Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-06 Thread Julie Sloan
Margot wrote: Julie Sloan wrote: PS I am here because someone on the linuxchix mailing list said this is a good forum for newbies Glad you made it over here, Julie - welcome! Margot Thanks for pointing me here, Margot - you probably thought I forgot. That's why I seem to have so much clutter

Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Charlie Mahan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On August 5, 2004 00:31:12, Tomas Tudja wrote: Hello, Format, fill with big files (movies) until there will be no space left and format again. If electron microscope guys (probably there are much cheaper ways to read data from disk only twice

RE: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Tony S. Sykes
, 2004 9:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On August 5, 2004 00:31:12, Tomas Tudja wrote: Hello, Format, fill with big files (movies) until

Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Dobrescu Mihai
Hello, I hate to reply to this. I would be concerned of my data security if I'd have been NASA. But I'm not. If you want to erase some data, try a wipe! I'm sad to see somebody confusing open source (== open minded) to illegal activities. I've never imagined somebody so fly... Being m$

Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread John Richard Smith
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Thursday 05 August 2004 07:25 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: Should read DOD. I think that NSA promulgates standards which then become published DoD standards but the NSA itself, doesn't publish standards. For anyone that actually wants a quick Linux tool to do this, see:

RE: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Tony S. Sykes
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bryan Phinney Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 2:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert) On Thursday 05 August 2004 09:22 am, Todd Slater wrote: Wow

Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 05 August 2004 10:39 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Bryan, I'm made a floppy version of dban, but tell me if I accidentally left it in my A drive and booted up on it, it wouldn't atually wipe my entire drive without asking me first would it ? As far as I know, it would not. The

Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 05 August 2004 11:36 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: I can't remember where I read it, but the securest way to wipe the data is to put random data in each bit, you need to do this numerous time to get to each standard, one standard is 30 another 60 times (not sure the correct amount of

RE: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Tony S. Sykes
, August 05, 2004 4:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert) On Thursday 05 August 2004 11:36 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: I can't remember where I read it, but the securest way to wipe the data is to put random data

RE: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Tomas Tudja
Sent: 05 August 2004 09:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On August 5, 2004 00:31:12, Tomas Tudja wrote: Hello, Format, fill with big files (movies) until

Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread John Richard Smith
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Thursday 05 August 2004 10:39 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Bryan, I've made a floppy version of dban, but tell me if I accidentally left it in my A drive and booted up on it, it wouldn't atually wipe my entire drive without asking me first would it ? As far as I

RE: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Tomas Tudja
PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charlie Mahan Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 9:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On August 5, 2004 00:31:12, Tomas Tudja wrote: Hello

RE: Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Tomas Tudja
and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert) To the rest of the list members; my humble apology for the diatribe. To Thomas Tudja; if I want your opinion I'll damned well give it to you first. You'd probably still screw it up though. Regards; Charlie Let the zings begin. I _know_ I'm making

Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread frankieh
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of German Guillot Sent: 05 August 2004 10:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert) To the rest of the list members; my humble apology for the diatribe. To Thomas Tudja; if I want your opinion

RE: Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Josenildo Marques
Em Qui, 1998-12-31 às 21:34, Tomas Tudja escreveu: German, you are right... Now I see, what is the prob;lem here : To everybody: a didn't want to be sarcastic or too smart... It is just my english (only 3 months of practice), so sorry guys Communication in my native language is a bit

Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Thursday 05 August 2004 14:16, John Richard Smith wrote: Bryan Phinney wrote: On Thursday 05 August 2004 10:39 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Bryan, I've made a floppy version of dban, but tell me if I accidentally left it in my A drive and booted up on it, it wouldn't atually wipe my

Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Julie Sloan
Tomas Tudja wrote: Are really everybody upset because of me? I just wanted to demonstrate the topic. I though it will be a good help for the people to understand the problem. I'm not :) BTW what is wrong with outlook? Aha even I can answer that. Outlook Express is the most virus-prone program

RE: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Tomas Tudja
2004 04:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert) Tomas Tudja wrote: Are really everybody upset because of me? I just wanted to demonstrate the topic. I though it will be a good help for the people to understand

RE: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Tomas Tudja
: RE: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert) 1. you really are not? I can't believe that : ! 2. I am running winxp2k2 in vmware virtual machine. Vmware is running on mdk10.1. Connection between winxp2k2 and mdk is safe, because mdk connection to network

Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Julie Sloan
Tomas Tudja wrote: 1. you really are not? I can't believe that : ! Well, 1) I haven't been here very long (just today) ...and 2) I'm 99.9% sure you speak english better than I speak your first language. 2. I am running winxp2k2 in vmware virtual machine. Vmware is running on mdk10.1.

RE: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Tomas Tudja
] http://hysteria.sk/catcher -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie Sloan Sent: 06 August 2004 05:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert) Tomas Tudja wrote: 1. you

Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 05:09:48 +0100 Tomas Tudja wrote: BTW I am using winxp2k2, because I like it : Since I am in the mood and no one else has stated it if you are so enamored of xp2k2 what the fuck are you doing on a MandrakeLINUX list. If your communication of choice relies on XP the falsify

RE: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Tomas Tudja
N17 8AJ London, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hysteria.sk/catcher -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles A Edwards Sent: 06 August 2004 06:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive

Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 01:08, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 05:09:48 +0100 Tomas Tudja wrote: BTW I am using winxp2k2, because I like it : Since I am in the mood and no one else has stated it if you are so enamored of xp2k2 what the fuck are you doing on a MandrakeLINUX

Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 06:15:54 +0100 Tomas Tudja wrote: Sorry, I didn't understand a word of the second part of your post : It means that regardless of What you are using as a firewall OE is itself intrinsically non-secure and is the method of choice for the proliferation of All virus and worms

Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 01:26:54 -0400 Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Go easy, Charles; this is the newbie list and we don't know anything about him. I meant no offence to him personally only to his usage of applications. Were there no linux MUA which I believed to be either equivalent, not to mention