Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] scheduling a review day

2014-11-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 21/11/14 14:13 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Nov 21, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 21/11/14 12:07 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: We have a bit of a backlog in the Oslo review queue. Before we add a bunch of new reviews for Kilo work, I’d like to see if we can

[openstack-dev] [tempest]

2014-11-24 Thread Angelo Matarazzo
Hi all, By reading the tempest documentation page [1] a user can run tempest tests by using whether testr or run_tempest.sh or tox. What is the best practice? run_tempest.sh has several options (e.g. ./run_tempest.sh -h) and it is my preferred way, currently. Any thought? BR, Angelo [1]

[openstack-dev] [tempest] How to run tempest tests

2014-11-24 Thread Angelo Matarazzo
Sorry for my previous message with wrong subject Hi all, By reading the tempest documentation page [1] a user can run tempest tests by using whether testr or run_tempest.sh or tox. What is the best practice? run_tempest.sh has several options (e.g. ./run_tempest.sh -h) and it is my preferred

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Bug day

2014-11-24 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Hi again, I'd like to share some results of the bug day we've conducted on 2014-11-21. Stats: - 73 New bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?search=Searchfield.status=New - 795 Open bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs - 285 In-progress bugs

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-24 Thread Przemyslaw Kaminski
I proposed monasca-agent in a previous mail in this thread. P. On 11/21/2014 04:48 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: How about this? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Monasca Kevin * * *From:* Dmitriy Shulyak *Sent:* Friday,

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Plugins improvement

2014-11-24 Thread Dmitry Ukov
Hello All, Current implementation of plugins in Fuel unpacks plugin tarball into /var/www/nailgun/plugins/. If we implement deployment part of plugin using puppet there is a setting puppet_modules: This setting should specify path to modules folder. As soon as main deployment part of plugin is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-24 Thread Sergii Golovatiuk
Hi, monasca looks overcomplicated for the purposes we need. Also it requires Kafka which is Java based transport protocol. I am proposing Sensu. It's architecture is tiny and elegant. Also it uses rabbitmq as transport so we won't need to introduce new protocol. -- Best regards, Sergii

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal new hacking rules

2014-11-24 Thread Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 01:52:50PM -0500, Matthew Treinish wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 07:15:49PM +0100, jordan pittier wrote: Hey, I am not a Nova developer but I still have an opinion. Using boolean assertions I like what you propose. We should use and enforce the assert* that

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal new hacking rules

2014-11-24 Thread Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 05:23:28PM -0500, Matthew Treinish wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 04:15:07PM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: On 11/21/2014 01:52 PM, Matthew Treinish wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 07:15:49PM +0100, jordan pittier wrote: Hey, I am not a Nova developer but I still have

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal new hacking rules

2014-11-24 Thread Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:30:59AM -0800, Joe Gordon wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui sahid.ferdja...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 02:00:11PM -0800, Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Plugins improvement

2014-11-24 Thread Aleksandr Didenko
Hi, according to [1] you should be able to use: puppet_modules: puppet/:/etc/puppet/modules/ This is valid string yaml parameter that should be parsed just fine. [1] https://github.com/stackforge/fuel-web/blob/master/tasklib/tasklib/actions/puppet.py#L61-L62 Regards -- Alex On Mon, Nov 24,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Plugins improvement

2014-11-24 Thread Dmitry Ukov
Unfortunately this does not work cat tasks.yaml # This tasks will be applied on controller nodes, # here you can also specify several roles, for example # ['cinder', 'compute'] will be applied only on # cinder and compute nodes - role: ['controller'] stage: post_deployment type: puppet

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Plugins improvement

2014-11-24 Thread Tatyana Leontovich
Guys, task like - role: ['controller'] stage: post_deployment type: puppet parameters: puppet_manifest: puppet/site.pp puppet_modules: puppet/modules/ timeout: 360 works fine for me, so I believe your task should looks like cat tasks.yaml # This tasks will be applied on controller nodes, # here

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Change diagnostic snapshot compression algoritm

2014-11-24 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
IMO, we should get a bunch of snapshots and decide which compression to use according to the results of an experiment. XZ compression takes much longer, so you will need to use parallel xz compression utility. On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Tomasz Napierala tnapier...@mirantis.com wrote: On

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Change diagnostic snapshot compression algoritm

2014-11-24 Thread Matthew Mosesohn
I did this exercise over many iterations during Docker container packing and found that as long as the data is under 1gb, it's going to compress really well with xz. Over 1gb and lrzip looks more attractive (but only on high memory systems). In reality, we're looking at log footprints from

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Plugins improvement

2014-11-24 Thread Dmitriy Shulyak
I tried to reproduce this behavior with tasks.yaml: # Deployment is required for controllers - role: ['controller'] stage: post_deployment type: puppet parameters: puppet_manifest: site.pp puppet_modules: puppet/:/etc/puppet/modules timeout: 360 And actually plugin was built

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Change diagnostic snapshot compression algoritm

2014-11-24 Thread Bartłomiej Piotrowski
On 24 Nov 2014, at 12:25, Matthew Mosesohn mmoses...@mirantis.com wrote: I did this exercise over many iterations during Docker container packing and found that as long as the data is under 1gb, it's going to compress really well with xz. Over 1gb and lrzip looks more attractive (but only on

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Plugins improvement

2014-11-24 Thread Dmitry Ukov
That was my fault. I did not expect that timeout parameter is a mandatory requirement for task. Every thing works perfectly fine. Thanks for the help. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Tatyana Leontovich tleontov...@mirantis.com wrote: Guys, task like - role: ['controller'] stage:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Change diagnostic snapshot compression algoritm

2014-11-24 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
Mattherw, Dmitry I would suggest to use: 1) multi-threaded utilities 2) use xz for small snapshots (1gb) and lrzip for bigger snapshots On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Matthew Mosesohn mmoses...@mirantis.com wrote: I did this exercise over many iterations during Docker container packing and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Change diagnostic snapshot compression algoritm

2014-11-24 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
guys, there is already pxz utility in ubuntu repos. let's test it On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Bartłomiej Piotrowski bpiotrow...@mirantis.com wrote: On 24 Nov 2014, at 12:25, Matthew Mosesohn mmoses...@mirantis.com wrote: I did this exercise over many iterations during Docker container

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Plugins improvement

2014-11-24 Thread Mike Scherbakov
I did not expect that timeout parameter is a mandatory requirement for task UX is obviously has to be improved here. Can we make a clear error, if there is no required parameter, instead of throwing unclear exception? On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Dmitry Ukov du...@mirantis.com wrote: That

Re: [openstack-dev] Where should Schema files live?

2014-11-24 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Eoghan Glynn [egl...@redhat.com] Friday, November 21, 2014 11:03 AM Some problems / options: a. Unlike Python, there is no simple pip install for text files. No version control per se. Basically whatever we pull from the repo. The problem with a git clone is we need to tweak config

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Fuel Plugins, First look; Whats Next?

2014-11-24 Thread Evgeniy L
Hi Andrew, Comments inline. Also could you please provide a link on OpenStack upgrade feature? It's not clear why do you need it as a plugin and how you are going to deliver this feature. On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 4:23 AM, Andrew Woodward xar...@gmail.com wrote: So as part of the pumphouse

[openstack-dev] [nova] Integration with Ceph

2014-11-24 Thread Sergey Nikitin
Hi, As you know we can use Ceph as ephemeral storage in nova. But we have some problems with its integration. First of all, total storage of compute nodes is calculated incorrectly. (more details here https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1387812). I want to fix this problem. Now size of total

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Plugins improvement

2014-11-24 Thread Evgeniy L
Hi Dmitry, Our current validation implementation is based on jsonschema, we will figure out how to hack/configure it to provide more human readable message Thanks, On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Dmitry Ukov du...@mirantis.com wrote: That was my fault. I did not expect that timeout parameter

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] Organizational changes to support stable branches

2014-11-24 Thread Thierry Carrez
OK, since there was no disagreement I pushed the changes to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch We'll get started setting up project-specific stable-maint teams ASAP. Cheers, Thierry Carrez wrote: TL;DR: Every project should designate a Stable branch liaison. Hi everyone, Last

[openstack-dev] [all] removing XML testing completely from Tempest

2014-11-24 Thread Sean Dague
Having XML payloads was never a universal part of OpenStack services. During the Icehouse release the TC declared that being an OpenStack service requires having a JSON REST API. Projects could do what they wanted beyond that. Lots of them deprecated and have been removing the XML cruft since

[openstack-dev] [devstack] external plugin support for Devstack

2014-11-24 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Hello, Thanks to the work of Dean and others we have a pretty solid plugins/extras support in Devstack. People can add new features in devstack within just a single file and that add a whole new feature or driver to devstack. It seems that there is quite a bit of people who wants to have those

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] removing XML testing completely from Tempest

2014-11-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/24/2014 08:56 AM, Sean Dague wrote: Having XML payloads was never a universal part of OpenStack services. During the Icehouse release the TC declared that being an OpenStack service requires having a JSON REST API. Projects could do what they wanted beyond that. Lots of them deprecated and

Re: [openstack-dev] [tempest] How to run tempest tests

2014-11-24 Thread Vineet Menon
Hi, I cannot comment on the best practice. But I can point to you a few more methods and links. 1. https://dague.net//presentations/tempest-101/#/ 2. http://www.slideshare.net/kamesh001/open-stack-qa-and-tempest?next_slideshow=1 3.

Re: [openstack-dev] [tempest] How to run tempest tests

2014-11-24 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Angelo, One more way to run Tempest is to run it via Rally. Rally will take care about installation, generating tempest.conf, running tempest, parsing storing output results. Here is manual: https://www.mirantis.com/blog/rally-openstack-tempest-testing-made-simpler/ As a bonus you'll get

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Add a new aiogreen executor for Oslo Messaging

2014-11-24 Thread Adam Young
On 11/23/2014 06:13 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On WSGI - if we're in an asyncio world, I don't think WSGI has any relevance today - it has no async programming model. While is has incremental apis and supports generators, thats not close enough to the same thing: so we're going to have to port

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][api] Extensions, micro-version and the evolution of the API

2014-11-24 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Hi, As most of you surely know the proposal for micro versioning in Nova [1] has been approved for Kilo. I am sure you are aware that a similar proposal has bee discussed for Neutron at the design summit. Considering the direction taken by nova, and the fact that neutron extensions are becoming

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] external plugin support for Devstack

2014-11-24 Thread Sean Dague
On 11/24/2014 08:56 AM, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: Hello, Thanks to the work of Dean and others we have a pretty solid plugins/extras support in Devstack. People can add new features in devstack within just a single file and that add a whole new feature or driver to devstack. It seems that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-24 Thread Tomasz Napierala
On 24 Nov 2014, at 11:09, Sergii Golovatiuk sgolovat...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi, monasca looks overcomplicated for the purposes we need. Also it requires Kafka which is Java based transport protocol. I am proposing Sensu. It's architecture is tiny and elegant. Also it uses rabbitmq as

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal new hacking rules

2014-11-24 Thread Matthew Gilliard
1/ assertFalse() vs assertEqual(x, False) - these are semantically different because of python's notion of truthiness, so I don't think we ought to make this a rule. 2/ expected/actual - incorrect failure messages have cost me more time than I should admit to. I don't see any reason not to try to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal new hacking rules

2014-11-24 Thread Alexis Lee
Matthew Gilliard said on Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 02:50:08PM +: 1/ assertFalse() vs assertEqual(x, False) - these are semantically different because of python's notion of truthiness, so I don't think we ought to make this a rule. 2/ expected/actual - I don't see any reason not to try to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Bug day

2014-11-24 Thread Edgar Magana
Great progress! Thanks for this huge effort. Edgar From: Eugene Nikanorov enikano...@mirantis.commailto:enikano...@mirantis.com Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Monday, November 24, 2014 at 1:52 AM To:

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Anyone Using the Open Solaris ZFS Driver?

2014-11-24 Thread Drew Fisher
On 11/17/14 10:27 PM, Duncan Thomas wrote: Is the new driver drop-in compatible with the old one? IF not, can existing systems be upgraded to the new driver via some manual steps, or is it basically a completely new driver with similar functionality? The driver in san/solaris.py focuses

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] external plugin support for Devstack

2014-11-24 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: We should also make this something which is gate friendly. I think the idea had been that if projects included a /devstack/ directory in them, when assembling devstack gate, that would be automatically dropped into devstack's

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] external plugin support for Devstack

2014-11-24 Thread Sean Dague
On 11/24/2014 10:17 AM, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net mailto:s...@dague.net wrote: We should also make this something which is gate friendly. I think the idea had been that if projects included a /devstack/ directory in them,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-24 Thread Rob Basham
Rob Basham Cloud Systems Software Architecture 971-344-1999 Tomasz Napierala tnapier...@mirantis.com wrote on 11/24/2014 06:42:39 AM: From: Tomasz Napierala tnapier...@mirantis.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date:

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Add a new aiogreen executor for Oslo Messaging

2014-11-24 Thread Mike Bayer
On Nov 23, 2014, at 9:24 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: There’s a long history of implicit context switches causing buggy software that breaks. As far as I can tell the only downsides to explicit context switches that don’t stem from an inferior interpreter seem to be “some

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Add a new aiogreen executor for Oslo Messaging

2014-11-24 Thread Mike Bayer
On Nov 24, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: For pieces such as the Nova compute that talk almost exclusively on the Queue, we should work to remove Monkey patching and use a clear programming model. If we can do that within the context of Eventlet, great. If we

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-24 Thread Przemyslaw Kaminski
And it all started out with simple free disk space monitoring :) I created a document https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-master-monitoring Let's write what exactly we want to monitor and what actions to take. Then it would be easier to decide which system we want. P. On 11/24/2014 04:32

[openstack-dev] [mistral] Team meeting - 11/24/2014

2014-11-24 Thread Nikolay Makhotkin
This is a reminder about our team meeting scheduled for today 16.00 UTC. Agenda: - Review action items - Paris Summit results - Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) - Release 0.2 progress - Open discussion -- Best Regards, Nikolay

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Let's use additional prefixes in threads

2014-11-24 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
Fuelers I am writing to you to suggest adding prefixes for Fuel subprojects/ as it becomes more and more difficult to read all the emails in mailing lists. Adding these prefixes should significantly improve ability of our engineers to filter out emails they are not interested in, e.g. UI

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] proposal: alternating weekly meeting time [doodle poll created]

2014-11-24 Thread Yves-Gwenaël Bourhis
Le 24/11/2014 04:20, Richard Jones a écrit : Thanks everyone, I've closed the poll. I'm sorry to say that there's no combination of two timeslots which allows everyone to attend a meeting. Of the 25 respondents, the best we can do is cater for 24 of you. Optimising for the maximum number

[openstack-dev] [mistral] Team meeting minutes/log - 11/24/2014

2014-11-24 Thread Nikolay Makhotkin
Thanks for joining us today, Here are the links to the meeting minutes and full log: - Minutes - http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-11-24-16.00.html - Full log - *http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-11-24-16.00.log.html

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Let's use additional prefixes in threads

2014-11-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/24/2014 11:01 AM, Vladimir Kuklin wrote: Fuelers I am writing to you to suggest adding prefixes for Fuel subprojects/ as it becomes more and more difficult to read all the emails in mailing lists. Adding these prefixes should significantly improve ability of our engineers to filter out

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Add a new aiogreen executor for Oslo Messaging

2014-11-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/24/2014 10:43 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On Nov 24, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: For pieces such as the Nova compute that talk almost exclusively on the Queue, we should work to remove Monkey patching and use a clear programming model. If we can do that within the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Let's use additional prefixes in threads

2014-11-24 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
[Fuel][Library] for compatibility with other projects. Let's negotiate the list of prefixes and populate them on our wiki so that everyone can configure his filters. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/24/2014 11:01 AM, Vladimir Kuklin wrote: Fuelers I

Re: [openstack-dev] Alembic 0.7.0 - hitting Pypi potentially Sunday night

2014-11-24 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Hello, On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Mike Bayer mba...@redhat.com wrote: 1. read about the new features, particularly the branch support, and please let me know of any red flags/concerns you might have over the coming implementation, at

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Let's use additional prefixes in threads

2014-11-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/24/2014 12:04 PM, Vladimir Kuklin wrote: [Fuel][Library] for compatibility with other projects. Let's negotiate the list of prefixes and populate them on our wiki so that everyone can configure his filters. ++ -jay ___ OpenStack-dev mailing

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] removing XML testing completely from Tempest

2014-11-24 Thread Lance Bragstad
We are in the process of removing XML support from Keystone [1] and have provided configuration options to Tempest for testing XML in older releases [2]. However, the identity client is still tightly coupled to XML test cases. We can either fix the 309 test cases that use the XML identity client

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Add a new aiogreen executor for Oslo Messaging

2014-11-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 24, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/24/2014 10:43 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On Nov 24, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: For pieces such as the Nova compute that talk almost exclusively on the Queue, we should work to remove Monkey patching

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal new hacking rules

2014-11-24 Thread Ben Nemec
On 11/24/2014 08:50 AM, Matthew Gilliard wrote: 1/ assertFalse() vs assertEqual(x, False) - these are semantically different because of python's notion of truthiness, so I don't think we ought to make this a rule. 2/ expected/actual - incorrect failure messages have cost me more time than I

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] proposed library releases for next week

2014-11-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
After the Oslo meeting today, most of the folks preparing releases met separately and decided to wait to create any new releases until the stable branches are ready. We need devstack to install Oslo libs from packages (merged) and to cap the Oslo requirements. Sean is going to raise the latter

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] removing XML testing completely from Tempest

2014-11-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/24/2014 12:36 PM, Lance Bragstad wrote: We are in the process of removing XML support from Keystone [1] and have provided configuration options to Tempest for testing XML in older releases [2]. However, the identity client is still tightly coupled to XML test cases. We can either fix

[openstack-dev] [nova] deleting the pylint test job

2014-11-24 Thread Sean Dague
The pylint test job has been broken for weeks, no one seemed to care. While waiting for other tests to return today I looked into it and figured out the fix. However, because of nova objects pylint is progressively less and less useful. So the fact that no one else looked at it means that people

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Anyone Using the Open Solaris ZFS Driver?

2014-11-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/24/2014 10:14 AM, Drew Fisher wrote: On 11/17/14 10:27 PM, Duncan Thomas wrote: Is the new driver drop-in compatible with the old one? IF not, can existing systems be upgraded to the new driver via some manual steps, or is it basically a completely new driver with similar

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] removing XML testing completely from Tempest

2014-11-24 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 to cleanup. -- dims On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 11/24/2014 12:36 PM, Lance Bragstad wrote: We are in the process of removing XML support from Keystone [1] and have provided configuration options to Tempest for testing XML in older releases

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Add a new aiogreen executor for Oslo Messaging

2014-11-24 Thread Mike Bayer
On Nov 24, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: This is a good point. I’m not sure we can say “we’ll only use explicit/implicit async in certain cases because most of our apps actually mix the cases. We have WSGI apps that send RPC messages and we have other

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] deleting the pylint test job

2014-11-24 Thread Dan Smith
However, because of nova objects pylint is progressively less and less useful. So the fact that no one else looked at it means that people didn't seem to care that it was provably broken. I think it's better that we just delete the jobs and save a node on every nova patch instead. Agreed.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal new hacking rules

2014-11-24 Thread pcrews
On 11/24/2014 09:40 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: On 11/24/2014 08:50 AM, Matthew Gilliard wrote: 1/ assertFalse() vs assertEqual(x, False) - these are semantically different because of python's notion of truthiness, so I don't think we ought to make this a rule. 2/ expected/actual - incorrect failure

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] deleting the pylint test job

2014-11-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: The pylint test job has been broken for weeks, no one seemed to care. While waiting for other tests to return today I looked into it and figured out the fix. However, because of nova objects pylint is progressively less and

[openstack-dev] Launching VM in multi-node setup

2014-11-24 Thread Danny Choi (dannchoi)
Hi, In a multi-node setup with multiple Compute nodes, is there a way to control where a VM will reside when launching a VM? E.g. I would like to have VM-1 at Compute-1, VM-2 at Compute-2, etc… Thanks, Danny ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal new hacking rules

2014-11-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/24/2014 01:02 PM, pcrews wrote: On 11/24/2014 09:40 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: On 11/24/2014 08:50 AM, Matthew Gilliard wrote: 1/ assertFalse() vs assertEqual(x, False) - these are semantically different because of python's notion of truthiness, so I don't think we ought to make this a rule.

[openstack-dev] [sahara] Discussion on cm_api for global requirement

2014-11-24 Thread Trevor McKay
Hello all, at our last Sahara IRC meeting we started discussing whether or not to add a global requirement for cm_api.py https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130153/ One issue (but not the only issue) is that cm_api is not packaged for Fedora, Centos, or Ubuntu currently. The global requirements

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Versioned objects cross project sessions next steps

2014-11-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/13/2014 01:12 AM, Robert Collins wrote: On 11 November 2014 13:30, Angus Salkeld asalk...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi all I just wanted to make sure we are all under the same understanding of the outcomes and what the next steps for the versioned objects session are. 1. There is a lot of

[openstack-dev] [neutron] Updating template spec to include IPV6 Impact

2014-11-24 Thread Kyle Mestery
I proposed a template change today [1] which adds an IPV6 Impact section into the template specification. This was done after some discussion on the Kilo Priorities spec [2] around IPV6. Given how important IPV6 is, it's my opinion we should ensure specifications for Kilo and beyond think about

Re: [openstack-dev] Launching VM in multi-node setup

2014-11-24 Thread Dugger, Donald D
Danny- Availability zones and host aggregates are your friend. For more detail check out: http://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/content/scaling.html -- Don Dugger Censeo Toto nos in Kansa esse decisse. - D. Gale Ph: 303/443-3786 From: Danny Choi (dannchoi)

[openstack-dev] [Infra] Meeting Tuesday November 25th at 19:00 UTC

2014-11-24 Thread Elizabeth K. Joseph
Hi everyone, The OpenStack Infrastructure (Infra) team is hosting our weekly meeting on Tuesday November 25th, at 19:00 UTC in #openstack-meeting Meeting agenda available here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting (anyone is welcome to to add agenda items) Everyone

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Versioned objects cross project sessions next steps

2014-11-24 Thread Dan Smith
3. vish brought up one draw back of versioned objects: the difficulty in cherry picking commits for stable branches - Is this a show stopper?. After some discussion with some of the interested parties, we're planning to add a third .z element to the version numbers and use that to handle

[openstack-dev] [Oslo][Neutron] Fork() safety and oslo.messaging

2014-11-24 Thread Ken Giusti
Hi all, As far as oslo.messaging is concerned, should it be possible for the main application to safely os.fork() when there is already an active connection to a messaging broker? I ask because I'm hitting what appears to be fork-related issues with the new AMQP 1.0 driver. I think the same

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] fuel master monitoring

2014-11-24 Thread Fox, Kevin M
One of the selling points of tripleo is to reuse as much as possible from the cloud, to make it easier to deploy. While monasca may be more complicated, if it ends up being a component everyone learns, then its not as bad as needing to learn two different monitoring technologies. You could say

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Versioned objects cross project sessions next steps

2014-11-24 Thread Joshua Harlow
Dan Smith wrote: 3. vish brought up one draw back of versioned objects: the difficulty in cherry picking commits for stable branches - Is this a show stopper?. After some discussion with some of the interested parties, we're planning to add a third .z element to the version numbers and use

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] deleting the pylint test job

2014-11-24 Thread Michael Still
This job was always experimental IIRC, and the original author hasn't been around in a while. I agree we should remove it. Michael On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:52 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: The pylint test job has been broken for weeks, no one seemed to care. While waiting for other

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Add a new aiogreen executor for Oslo Messaging

2014-11-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 24, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Mike Bayer mba...@redhat.com wrote: On Nov 24, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: This is a good point. I’m not sure we can say “we’ll only use explicit/implicit async in certain cases because most of our apps actually mix the

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Add a new aiogreen executor for Oslo Messaging

2014-11-24 Thread Joshua Harlow
Doug Hellmann wrote: On Nov 24, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Mike Bayermba...@redhat.com wrote: On Nov 24, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Doug Hellmannd...@doughellmann.com wrote: This is a good point. I’m not sure we can say “we’ll only use explicit/implicit async in certain cases because most of our apps

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] Shared Objects in LBaaS - Use Cases that led us to adopt this.

2014-11-24 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Hi Samuel, We've actually been avoiding having a deeper discussion about status in Neutron LBaaS since this can get pretty hairy as the back-end implementations get more complicated. I suspect managing that is probably one of the bigger reasons we have disagreements around object sharing. Perhaps

Re: [openstack-dev] [swift] a way of checking replicate completion on swift cluster

2014-11-24 Thread Clay Gerrard
replication logs On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Matsuda, Kenichiro matsuda_keni...@jp.fujitsu.com wrote: Hi, Thank you for the info. I was able to get replication info easily by swift-recon API. But, I wasn't able to judge whether no failure from recon info of object-replicator.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Versioned objects cross project sessions next steps

2014-11-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/24/2014 03:11 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: Dan Smith wrote: 3. vish brought up one draw back of versioned objects: the difficulty in cherry picking commits for stable branches - Is this a show stopper?. After some discussion with some of the interested parties, we're planning to add a third

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Cleaning up spec review queue.

2014-11-24 Thread Chris K
Thank you all for the reply's to this thread. I have now set all of the listed spec's to an abandoned state, Please note that any review can be recovered quickly but clicking the Restore Change button. If one of the listed spec's is restored please be sure to re-target to the Kilo cycle. Thank

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] Weekly Status Update

2014-11-24 Thread Jim Rollenhagen
Hi all, Ironic has decided to email a weekly status report for all subteams. This is the inaugural issue of that. :) This is and will be a copy and paste from the Ironic whiteboard.[0] Testing (adam_g) (deva) - make Ironic voting -- needs to be rebased again, but has been approved Bugs

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Versioned objects cross project sessions next steps

2014-11-24 Thread melanie witt
On Nov 24, 2014, at 13:06, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: That said, I don't think it's wise to make oslo-versionedobjects be a totally new thing. I think we should use nova.objects as the base of a new oslo-versionedobjects library, and we should evolve oslo-versionedobjects slowly

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Versioned objects cross project sessions next steps

2014-11-24 Thread Angus Salkeld
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/24/2014 03:11 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: Dan Smith wrote: 3. vish brought up one draw back of versioned objects: the difficulty in cherry picking commits for stable branches - Is this a show stopper?. After some

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Handling soft delete for instance rows in a new cells database

2014-11-24 Thread Michael Still
Heya, Review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135644/4 proposes the addition of a new database for our improved implementation of cells in Nova. However, there's an outstanding question about how to handle soft delete of rows -- we believe that we need to soft delete for forensic purposes. This

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] APIImpact flag for specs

2014-11-24 Thread Everett Toews
I’ve also added APIImpact flag info to the Git Commit Messages page [1]. Everett [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GitCommitMessages#Including_external_references On Nov 19, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Everett Toews everett.to...@rackspace.commailto:everett.to...@rackspace.com wrote: On Nov 13,

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] Shared Objects in LBaaS - Use Cases that led us to adopt this.

2014-11-24 Thread Brandon Logan
My impression is that the statuses of each entity will be shown on a detailed info request of a loadbalancer. The root level objects would not have any statuses. For example a user makes a GET request to /loadbalancers/{lb_id} and the status of every child of that load balancer is show in a

[openstack-dev] [Octavia] Meeting on Wednesday, Nov. 26th cancelled

2014-11-24 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Hi folks! Since: * The agenda contains no earth-shattering updates (ie. just going over review progress) * Nearly all the people working on Octavia are US-based * The meeting is in the afternoon for most folks * Wednesday is the day before a long holiday weekend and many employers give their

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] - the setup of a DHCP sub-group

2014-11-24 Thread Carl Baldwin
Don, Could the spec linked to your BP be moved to the specs repository? I'm hesitant to start reading it as a google doc when I know I'm going to want to make comments and ask questions. Carl On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Don Kehn dek...@gmail.com wrote: If this shows up twice sorry for the

[openstack-dev] [Horizon]

2014-11-24 Thread David Lyle
I am pleased to nominate Thai Tran and Cindy Lu to horizon-core. Both Thai and Cindy have been contributing significant numbers of high quality reviews during Juno and Kilo cycles. They are consistently among the top non-core reviewers. They are also responsible for a significant number of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Tracking Kilo priorities

2014-11-24 Thread Michael Still
First off, sorry for the slow reply. I was on vacation last week. The project priority list was produced as part of the design summit, and reflects nova's need to pay down technical debt in order to keep meeting our users needs. So, whilst driver changes are important, they doesn't belong on that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Tracking Kilo priorities

2014-11-24 Thread Alessandro Pilotti
Hi Michael, On 25 Nov 2014, at 01:57, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: First off, sorry for the slow reply. I was on vacation last week. The project priority list was produced as part of the design summit, and reflects nova's need to pay down technical debt in order to keep

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Handling soft delete for instance rows in a new cells database

2014-11-24 Thread Michael Still
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Mike Bayer mba...@redhat.com wrote: On Nov 24, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: Heya, Review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135644/4 proposes the addition of a new database for our improved implementation of cells in Nova.

Re: [openstack-dev] opnfv proposal on DR capability enhancement on OpenStack Nova

2014-11-24 Thread Zhipeng Huang
Hi all, We have updated our proposal to reflect more details on our proposal. The opnfv wiki link should be public for now: https://wiki.opnfv.org/collaborative_development_projects/rescuer We currently limit the scope of the project to provide VM DR state, so that we could make a K release

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Tracking Kilo priorities

2014-11-24 Thread Michael Still
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Alessandro Pilotti apilo...@cloudbasesolutions.com wrote: Hi Michael, On 25 Nov 2014, at 01:57, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: First off, sorry for the slow reply. I was on vacation last week. The project priority list was produced as part of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Tracking Kilo priorities

2014-11-24 Thread Alessandro Pilotti
On 25 Nov 2014, at 02:35, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Alessandro Pilotti apilo...@cloudbasesolutions.com wrote: Hi Michael, On 25 Nov 2014, at 01:57, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: First off, sorry for the slow reply. I was on

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][neutron] Proposal to split Neutron into separate repositories

2014-11-24 Thread Robert Collins
On 19 November 2014 at 11:31, Mark McClain m...@mcclain.xyz wrote: All- Over the last several months, the members of the Networking Program have been discussing ways to improve the management of our program. When the Quantum project was initially launched, we envisioned a combined service

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