Re: [Paraview] Concept: A world without the Apply button

2011-06-08 Thread Stephane PLOIX
@paraview.org Objet Re: [Paraview] Concept: A world without the Apply button Sam, Please note that this proposal does not preclude the user from choosing which array to load from the reader's properties panel. That indeed will be supported. This proposal in fact allows you go back the reader

Re: [Paraview] Concept: A world without the Apply button

2011-06-08 Thread Utkarsh Ayachit
A samuel...@bresnan.net cc paraview@paraview.org Objet Re: [Paraview] Concept: A world without the Apply button Sam, Please note that this proposal does not preclude the user from choosing which array to load from the reader's properties panel. That indeed will be supported

Re: [Paraview] Concept: A world without the Apply button

2011-06-08 Thread Biddiscombe, John A.
: [Paraview] Concept: A world without the Apply button Stephane, Yes, that'd indeed be a path forward, but like you alluded to, it would need a planning of its own especially adding support to the executive, being smart about when to re-execute, and even possibly, cache arrays. Utkarsh On Wed

Re: [Paraview] Concept: A world without the Apply button

2011-06-07 Thread Moreland, Kenneth
One thing that strikes me about this proposal, is that it relies a lot on VTK readers/filters providing the necessary meta data, particularly about fields. For example, the elevation filter would have to report in its meta data that it will be adding a scalar field named Elevation. That sounds

Re: [Paraview] Concept: A world without the Apply button

2011-06-07 Thread Samuel Key
All-- Technical reasons aside, my own simulation efforts (software that relies on ParaView for post-processing) span a great variety of solid and structural mechanics applications. The software is not a single-formulation, single-solution, one-off problem solver. Put briefly, I find the

Re: [Paraview] Concept: A world without the Apply button

2011-06-07 Thread Utkarsh Ayachit
Sam, Please note that this proposal does not preclude the user from choosing which array to load from the reader's properties panel. That indeed will be supported. This proposal in fact allows you go back the reader change it's array selection, and then go the properties panel for a contour

Re: [Paraview] Concept: A world without the Apply button

2011-06-07 Thread Utkarsh Ayachit
Is there a way to mitigate the issues with the meta data mismatching what is actually generated?  Perhaps there could be a check to make sure that the data generated matches the meta data previously reported and issue a warning if there are any mismatches.  This would not solve the problem per

[Paraview] Concept: A world without the Apply button

2011-06-01 Thread Utkarsh Ayachit
Folks, I have been investigating the ability to create pipelines in ParaView without having to hit Apply at every single stage in the pipeline. This would make it much easier to deal with really large data in a usage scenario where the scientist is fairly familiar with the visualization pipeline

Re: [Paraview] Concept: A world without the Apply button

2011-06-01 Thread David Thompson
Hi Utkarsh, I like the idea. One possible problem that comes to mind is filters that produce different output types based on the input. Will enough of the metadata be passed through the pipeline before Execute() is called for those filters to hint at their output type? Otherwise, you'll be

Re: [Paraview] Concept: A world without the Apply button

2011-06-01 Thread David Thompson
I like the idea. One possible problem that comes to mind is filters that produce different output types based on the input. Will enough of the metadata be passed through the pipeline before Execute() is called for those filters to hint at their output type? Otherwise, you'll be forced to

Re: [Paraview] Concept: A world without the Apply button

2011-06-01 Thread Utkarsh Ayachit
Dave, Output types become a problem only for composite-datasets, for others data-types are known after RequestDataObject pass which happens before RequestData(). I am still not sure how (or if) to deal with composite datasets in this case. We can expect the reader to give meta-data for composite

Re: [Paraview] Concept: A world without the Apply button

2011-06-01 Thread David Thompson
Utkarsh, I agree that composite readers (and probably other composite filters) can provide the dataset structure in the RequestDataObject pass, but I don't know that many currently do. Certainly the ExodusIIReader doesn't. It would be easy enough to provide an empty hierarchy of *all the