Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-04-01 Thread Mike Mattie
Hello, The discussion on smoking and branching is driven by the need to maintain quality across a wide range of compilers and target(1) machines. I would add a couple of points. 0. When working through the review process the tool I wanted the most was a simple way to test

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-30 Thread jerry gay
On 3/29/07, Joshua Isom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 29, 2007, at 4:20 PM, jerry gay wrote: On 3/29/07, Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: particle and i'm not interested in testing every revision, when so many might be coding standards Why are people even

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-30 Thread Allison Randal
jerry gay wrote: Should we even require all of these tests to be ran by default? These tests should never fail for a user compiling a release version of parrot, so should they need to test them? They're good for developers, but only developers. until we stop actively developing major

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-30 Thread Allison Randal
Will Coleda wrote: So lets document what we need. Right now 'make smoke' generates an HTML report which is uploaded to the smoke server. Talk has happened in the past about making this more DB like instead of rendered output, but my concern is for the user visible features we're lacking.

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-30 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 08:58:19AM -0700, Allison Randal wrote: I concur that the user shouldn't get failing tests for things like whitespace at the end of lines. More importantly, the user shouldn't be wasting time running tests for coding standards and documentation. How about a 'make

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-30 Thread chromatic
On Friday 30 March 2007 09:36, Nicholas Clark wrote: An alternative is to have Cmake test be an alias, either to Cmake devtest by default, and a smaller Cmake usertest (or somesuch) when the source tree is an official release. Having the source tree know when it's an official release (perhaps

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 01:45:57PM -0700, Allison Randal wrote: Steve_p It works OK if everyone agrees that one ( or a very few) access the maintanence branch bernhard How many branches are we talking about 1,2 or 10 ? chromatic Steve_p, I think

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread chromatic
On Thursday 29 March 2007 13:05, Nicholas Clark wrote: I don't think that the stable/development spit in Perl 5 land is broken. There is a problem that there aren't enough people with good enough knowledge to be committers, and in particular to want to review and apply patches supplied by

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread jerry gay
On 3/29/07, Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: particle and i'm not interested in testing every revision, when so many might be coding standards Why are people even checking things in that fail coding standards? because not all coding standard tests are run with 'make

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread Paul Cochrane
particle and i'm not interested in testing every revision, when so many might be coding standards Why are people even checking things in that fail coding standards? The line-ending coding standards tests can be a problem in some cases, where Windows developers add new files

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread Eric Hanchrow
chromatic == chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: chromatic The line-ending coding standards tests can be a problem chromatic in some cases, where Windows developers add new files chromatic with their native format and forget to set the chromatic svn:eol-style=native property on

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread James E Keenan
Eric Hanchrow wrote: Here's the relevant bits from my config file: [miscellany] ### Set enable-auto-props to 'yes' to enable automatic properties ### for 'svn add' and 'svn import', it defaults to 'no'. ### Automatic properties are defined in the section 'auto-props'.

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread James E Keenan
Eric Hanchrow wrote: Here's the relevant bits from my config file: [miscellany] ### Set enable-auto-props to 'yes' to enable automatic properties ### for 'svn add' and 'svn import', it defaults to 'no'. ### Automatic properties are defined in the section 'auto-props'.

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread Will Coleda
On Mar 27, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Allison Randal wrote: particlebut, we need better smoke tools So lets document what we need. Right now 'make smoke' generates an HTML report which is uploaded to the smoke server. Talk has happened in the past about making this more DB like

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread Joshua Isom
On Mar 29, 2007, at 10:14 PM, Will Coleda wrote: On Mar 27, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Allison Randal wrote: particlebut, we need better smoke tools So lets document what we need. Right now 'make smoke' generates an HTML report which is uploaded to the smoke server. Talk has

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread chromatic
On Thursday 29 March 2007 23:03, Joshua Isom wrote: One other thing I've noticed is that todo tests sometimes become forgotten tests.  And since they're sometimes platform specific, they don't get fixed for that platform because feature x doesn't have the code support.  Other than doing a

Re: IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-29 Thread Joshua Isom
On Mar 29, 2007, at 4:20 PM, jerry gay wrote: On 3/29/07, Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: particle and i'm not interested in testing every revision, when so many might be coding standards Why are people even checking things in that fail coding standards? because

IRC discussion of smoking and branching

2007-03-27 Thread Allison Randal
A discussion of draft document http://rakudo.org/parrot/index.cgi?parallel_development_requirements, with some side threads edited out. See http://www.parrotcode.org/misc/parrotsketch-logs/irclog.parrotsketch-200703/irclog.parrotsketch.20070327 for the full text. ... Coke ok. This is