Re: Official Windows Installer and Documentation

2023-11-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 11:24:24AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 11:16:29AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 09:28:51PM -0700, David G. Johnston wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 8:22 PM Tom Lane wrote: > > > > > > I wrote: > > > > If EDB

Re: Official Windows Installer and Documentation

2023-10-31 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 11:16:29AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 09:28:51PM -0700, David G. Johnston wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 8:22 PM Tom Lane wrote: > > > > I wrote: > > > If EDB isn't adequately filling in the documentation for the behavior > > >

Re: Official Windows Installer and Documentation

2023-10-31 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 09:28:51PM -0700, David G. Johnston wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 8:22 PM Tom Lane wrote: > > I wrote: > > If EDB isn't adequately filling in the documentation for the behavior > > of their packaging, that's on them. > > Having now looked more closely

Re: Official Windows Installer and Documentation

2022-07-27 Thread David G. Johnston
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 8:22 PM Tom Lane wrote: > I wrote: > > If EDB isn't adequately filling in the documentation for the behavior > > of their packaging, that's on them. > > Having now looked more closely at the pg_upgrade documentation, > I don't think this is exactly EDB's fault; it's text

Re: Official Windows Installer and Documentation

2022-07-27 Thread Tom Lane
I wrote: > If EDB isn't adequately filling in the documentation for the behavior > of their packaging, that's on them. Having now looked more closely at the pg_upgrade documentation, I don't think this is exactly EDB's fault; it's text that should never have been there to begin with. ISTM we

Re: Official Windows Installer and Documentation

2022-07-27 Thread Julien Rouhaud
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 07:31:35PM -0700, David G. Johnston wrote: > > Ultimately we do our users the best service if when they operate an > installation using defaults that they have documentation showing how to > perform something like an upgrade that works with those defaults. I don't really

Re: Official Windows Installer and Documentation

2022-07-27 Thread Tom Lane
"David G. Johnston" writes: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 6:42 PM Julien Rouhaud wrote: >> Note that there's no "official" Windows installer, Yeah, that. > Our technical definition aside, the fact is our users consider the sole EDB > installer to be official. > If the ultimate solution is to

Re: Official Windows Installer and Documentation

2022-07-27 Thread David G. Johnston
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022, Julien Rouhaud wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 07:02:51PM -0700, David G. Johnston wrote: > > > > In the end the problem is ours and cannot be simply assigned to a > > third-party. So let's resolve it here (on this list, whatever the > > solution) where

Re: Official Windows Installer and Documentation

2022-07-27 Thread Julien Rouhaud
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 07:02:51PM -0700, David G. Johnston wrote: > > In the end the problem is ours and cannot be simply assigned to a > third-party. So let's resolve it here (on this list, whatever the > solution) where representatives from all parties are present. We could amend the

Re: Official Windows Installer and Documentation

2022-07-27 Thread David G. Johnston
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 6:42 PM Julien Rouhaud wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 11:36:11PM +0200, Thomas Kellerer wrote: > > David G. Johnston schrieb am 27.07.2022 um 21:21: > > > And then there is the issue of file ownership. > > > > > > Assuming we want better documentation for this

Re: Official Windows Installer and Documentation

2022-07-27 Thread Julien Rouhaud
Hi, On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 11:36:11PM +0200, Thomas Kellerer wrote: > David G. Johnston schrieb am 27.07.2022 um 21:21: > > And then there is the issue of file ownership. > > > > Assuming we want better documentation for this specific issue for > > back-patching what would that look like? > >

Re: Official Windows Installer and Documentation

2022-07-27 Thread Thomas Kellerer
David G. Johnston schrieb am 27.07.2022 um 21:21: And then there is the issue of file ownership. Assuming we want better documentation for this specific issue for back-patching what would that look like? Going forward should our installer be creating the postgres user for consistency with

Official Windows Installer and Documentation

2022-07-27 Thread David G. Johnston
Hey, Just interacted with a frustrated user on Slack trying to upgrade from v13 to v14 on Windows. Our official download page for the Windows installer claims the core documentation as its official reference - can someone responsible for this area please suggest and test some changes to make