php-general Digest 23 Oct 2012 20:48:42 -0000 Issue 8019
php-general Digest 23 Oct 2012 20:48:42 - Issue 8019 Topics (messages 319555 through 319568): Re: Recommendation request: Use Magento or build my own eCommerce? 319555 by: Marc Guay 319556 by: Mark 319557 by: Marc Guay 319558 by: Mark Re: Missing email 319559 by: Gerardo Benitez 319561 by: Karl DeSaulniers Re: Wrong time being displayed by PHP! 319560 by: Richard S. Crawford PDO 319562 by: Silvio Siefke 319563 by: Nathan Nobbe 319564 by: Ashley Sheridan 319565 by: Adam Richardson 319566 by: Silvio Siefke 319567 by: Lester Caine cron job problem 319568 by: Jim Giner Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: php-general-digest-subscr...@lists.php.net To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: php-general-digest-unsubscr...@lists.php.net To post to the list, e-mail: php-gene...@lists.php.net -- ---BeginMessage--- Use Magento. It will take you more than 6 months to build what you're talking about all by yourself. Magento is a pain to learn at first but once you get into it things start to make sense and development speeds up. Marc ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Mark mark...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm in a difficult situation here. I have a list of requirements for an eCommerce system (Magento) where i'm getting mixed opinions about what to do. Note: i do consider myself to be a quite experienced PHP programmer and certainly have the skills to either make the extensions or make everything from scratch. Both do require month of work! First - for the complete picture - the list of requirements for the eCommerce system: - (buld into magento) Multishop has to be possible - Different payment modules have to be possible (buckaroo, afterpay, ...) - Online chat (with for example zopim) has to be possible - Advanced product permissions (magento only has manage not more specific as in edit) - Setting pruduct margins - Abandoned cart alerts - One page checkout - Some javascript/ajax things like instant cart - A very specific order page (the Booking and Reservations plugin can do that) Thus far it's all oke. However, if i go to the magento irc channel i'm getting really mixed opinions about what to use and what to create myself. They basically say that i should prevent installing as much extensions as possible and try to make most of the things myself. This is where i'm getting really confused. There are two possible routes to take here. 1. I can go for the magento route and just take the very steep learning curve it has. It will be a slow process to make the modules required (mainly the advanced permissions, setting product margins and a abandoned cart extension). Two of those three are very difficult to make. Certainly if you consider that i'm just starting developing in any eCommerce system. 2. Considering the steep learning curve of making extensions for Magento it might be easier - in the long run - to build it all myself. In the beginning that will be an even slower process then using Magento, but once the structure is build it will be a much faster development process for any extension. I know it's usually a bad thing to reinvent the wheel and i am certainly not intending that. However, right now i really get the impression that i'm better of making it all myself. Both approaches take many months of development where the self made version is going to pay off in development time in the long run when compared to magento. I am just not sure what the best solution might be. So here is a list of pros and cons that i can think of for both approaches. Pros/Cons for using magento - [pro] a lot of existing extensions - [pro] i don't need to worry about security updates since the come from magento - [pro] living community around it to help out if there are any issues - [con] very steep learning curve - [con] not straightforward to start developing in - [con] takes a lot of time till you can even use the basics Pros/Cons for self made - [pro] Development will go a lot faster - [pro] i can make it more specific for one goal - [pro] a much easier extension model - [con] security all depends on me - [con] i have to make complicated extensions like buckaroo and afterpay myself - [con] no existing library of extensions to use Again, i'm puzzled by this. If i follow the #magento (on freenode) list then i should pick magento, but make every extension myself or only use the really good ones. Thus that will require a lot of time to develop them. I 'm guessing about half a year. Then again, if i make it all from the ground up it's probably also going to take half a year to develop (or slightly more) but it will obviously be much easier to maintain since i know every
[PHP] cron job problem
I have a php script that has been triggered by my hoster's cron process(?) to run once a day since last March. It's been running fine - and I've made no changes to it. Suddenly in the last couple of days it is running twice it seems. The whole process sends an email at its conclusion and the receipient tells me today that she's getting two emails only a minute apart. Any ideas on why this might happen? I haven't contact my host company yet - thought I'd ask around first. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] cron job problem
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com wrote: I have a php script that has been triggered by my hoster's cron process(?) to run once a day since last March. It's been running fine - and I've made no changes to it. Suddenly in the last couple of days it is running twice it seems. The whole process sends an email at its conclusion and the receipient tells me today that she's getting two emails only a minute apart. Any ideas on why this might happen? I haven't contact my host company yet - thought I'd ask around first. Though not really a PHP question, there are several reasons this could happen, including a race condition that is being encountered due to a slowdown of the host system or changes to the system's environment. Are the emails she's receiving identical? -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] cron job problem
On 10/23/2012 4:56 PM, Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com wrote: I have a php script that has been triggered by my hoster's cron process(?) to run once a day since last March. It's been running fine - and I've made no changes to it. Suddenly in the last couple of days it is running twice it seems. The whole process sends an email at its conclusion and the receipient tells me today that she's getting two emails only a minute apart. Any ideas on why this might happen? I haven't contact my host company yet - thought I'd ask around first. Though not really a PHP question, there are several reasons this could happen, including a race condition that is being encountered due to a slowdown of the host system or changes to the system's environment. Are the emails she's receiving identical? Yes - same msg same time -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Help using PHP 5.3.3 mail() with Apache James
Has anyone been successful at using the above on a RHEL 6.2 environment? I am able to use Postfix using the php.ini SENDMAIL_PATH but when I bring down PostFix, start Apache James and switch the sendmail_path value to point to the Apache James 2.3.2 provided wrapper (/opt/james-2.3.2/bin/sendmail.py) the return code on mail() indicates it failed and no record of the wrapper being invoked. Calling the wrapper directly from the command-line works as expected so the problem is somewhere between PHP and the sendmail_path invocation. Thanks, Steve
Re: [PHP] cron job problem
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com wrote: Yes - same msg same time If it wouldn't be a problem, can you provide the script here (or on a site like Pastebin), as well as the crontab time entry for this? While checking the crontab, make sure a duplicate entry for this wasn't somehow added. In the event that you'd like to keep this information from the archives and general mailing list (and depending on the security implications based upon what's divulged, I'd recommend it), I invite you to send it to me privately, off-list, and I'll take a look at it later tonight or tomorrow morning. -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] cron job problem
On Tue, 2012-10-23 at 16:59 -0400, Jim Giner wrote: On 10/23/2012 4:56 PM, Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com wrote: I have a php script that has been triggered by my hoster's cron process(?) to run once a day since last March. It's been running fine - and I've made no changes to it. Suddenly in the last couple of days it is running twice it seems. The whole process sends an email at its conclusion and the receipient tells me today that she's getting two emails only a minute apart. Any ideas on why this might happen? I haven't contact my host company yet - thought I'd ask around first. Though not really a PHP question, there are several reasons this could happen, including a race condition that is being encountered due to a slowdown of the host system or changes to the system's environment. Are the emails she's receiving identical? Yes - same msg same time Are they definitely only in the cron list once? Could someone have tried to help by adding the job into the daily.cron, but forgotten to remove it from the regular crontab? -- Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
Re: [PHP] cron job problem
On Tue, 2012-10-23 at 17:12 -0400, Jim Giner wrote: On 10/23/2012 5:19 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Tue, 2012-10-23 at 16:59 -0400, Jim Giner wrote: On 10/23/2012 4:56 PM, Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com wrote: I have a php script that has been triggered by my hoster's cron process(?) to run once a day since last March. It's been running fine - and I've made no changes to it. Suddenly in the last couple of days it is running twice it seems. The whole process sends an email at its conclusion and the receipient tells me today that she's getting two emails only a minute apart. Any ideas on why this might happen? I haven't contact my host company yet - thought I'd ask around first. Though not really a PHP question, there are several reasons this could happen, including a race condition that is being encountered due to a slowdown of the host system or changes to the system's environment. Are the emails she's receiving identical? Yes - same msg same time Are they definitely only in the cron list once? Could someone have tried to help by adding the job into the daily.cron, but forgotten to remove it from the regular crontab? -- Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk daily.cron? regular crontab? Don't know of what you speak. This is my only cron-initiated task. My provider gives me a screen to enter the command and the desired time to run it and it's been that way for months. I have had no need to change it so I'm surprised this is happening. Crontab is the daemon which runs cron jobs, and some distros have set up special files called cron.daily (or daily.cron I don't recall), cron.hourly, etc to make it easier to schedule jobs. As you're entering this through a control panel (presumably a web-based one?) I would guess that's not the problem. It could be that the hostings control panel software has had a hiccup? -- Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
Re: [PHP] Help using PHP 5.3.3 mail() with Apache James
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Steven Pogue spo...@us.ibm.com wrote: Has anyone been successful at using the above on a RHEL 6.2 environment? I am able to use Postfix using the php.ini SENDMAIL_PATH but when I bring down PostFix, start Apache James and switch the sendmail_path value to point to the Apache James 2.3.2 provided wrapper (/opt/james-2.3.2/bin/sendmail.py) the return code on mail() indicates it failed and no record of the wrapper being invoked. Calling the wrapper directly from the command-line works as expected so the problem is somewhere between PHP and the sendmail_path invocation. What is the output of the following code? ?php echo 'pre'.PHP_EOL; echo trim(`ls -al /opt/james-2.3.2/bin/sendmail.py`).PHP_EOL; echo '/pre'.PHP_EOL; ? -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] cron job problem
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: Crontab is the daemon which runs cron jobs, and some distros have set up special files called cron.daily (or daily.cron I don't recall), cron.hourly, etc to make it easier to schedule jobs. Quick clarification and correction here: The cron *daemon* is crond, while the *script* that is batch-processed by cron is called the crontab. When it is executed, it is referred to as a cron job. That said, Ash is right about the rest. Different OS flavors (BSD, Linux, UNIX, SunOS/Solaris, HP-UX, et cetera) often use different path and file standards. Linux, in general, uses a command `crontab` which opens the local user's environment-configured editor to modify the user's crontab in the spool. -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Help using PHP 5.3.3 mail() with Apache James
Dan, I assume you meant to add a system() call into it...if so, here is what was presented. -rwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 3878 Sep 6 14:45 /opt/james-2.3.2/bin/sendmail.py -rwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 3878 Sep 6 14:45 /opt/james-2.3.2/bin/sendmail.py Steve From: Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net To: Steven Pogue/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Date: 10/23/2012 05:24 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Help using PHP 5.3.3 mail() with Apache James Sent by: paras...@gmail.com On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Steven Pogue spo...@us.ibm.com wrote: Has anyone been successful at using the above on a RHEL 6.2 environment? I am able to use Postfix using the php.ini SENDMAIL_PATH but when I bring down PostFix, start Apache James and switch the sendmail_path value to point to the Apache James 2.3.2 provided wrapper (/opt/james-2.3.2/bin/sendmail.py) the return code on mail() indicates it failed and no record of the wrapper being invoked. Calling the wrapper directly from the command-line works as expected so the problem is somewhere between PHP and the sendmail_path invocation. What is the output of the following code? ?php echo 'pre'.PHP_EOL; echo trim(`ls -al /opt/james-2.3.2/bin/sendmail.py`).PHP_EOL; echo '/pre'.PHP_EOL; ? -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/
Re: [PHP] cron job problem
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: Crontab is the daemon which runs cron jobs, and some distros have set up special files called cron.daily (or daily.cron I don't recall), cron.hourly, etc to make it easier to schedule jobs. Quick clarification and correction here: The cron *daemon* is crond, while the *script* that is batch-processed by cron is called the crontab. When it is executed, it is referred to as a cron job. That said, Ash is right about the rest. Different OS flavors (BSD, Linux, UNIX, SunOS/Solaris, HP-UX, et cetera) often use different path and file standards. Linux, in general, uses a command `crontab` which opens the local user's environment-configured editor to modify the user's crontab in the spool. -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php script runs ntp updates server time script runs again?
Re: [PHP] cron job problem
On 10/23/2012 6:18 PM, David OBrien wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: Crontab is the daemon which runs cron jobs, and some distros have set up special files called cron.daily (or daily.cron I don't recall), cron.hourly, etc to make it easier to schedule jobs. Quick clarification and correction here: The cron *daemon* is crond, while the *script* that is batch-processed by cron is called the crontab. When it is executed, it is referred to as a cron job. That said, Ash is right about the rest. Different OS flavors (BSD, Linux, UNIX, SunOS/Solaris, HP-UX, et cetera) often use different path and file standards. Linux, in general, uses a command `crontab` which opens the local user's environment-configured editor to modify the user's crontab in the spool. -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php script runs ntp updates server time script runs again? But why now? This process has been running just fine for months. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] cron job problem
On Tue, 2012-10-23 at 18:36 -0400, Jim Giner wrote: On 10/23/2012 6:18 PM, David OBrien wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: Crontab is the daemon which runs cron jobs, and some distros have set up special files called cron.daily (or daily.cron I don't recall), cron.hourly, etc to make it easier to schedule jobs. Quick clarification and correction here: The cron *daemon* is crond, while the *script* that is batch-processed by cron is called the crontab. When it is executed, it is referred to as a cron job. That said, Ash is right about the rest. Different OS flavors (BSD, Linux, UNIX, SunOS/Solaris, HP-UX, et cetera) often use different path and file standards. Linux, in general, uses a command `crontab` which opens the local user's environment-configured editor to modify the user's crontab in the spool. -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php script runs ntp updates server time script runs again? But why now? This process has been running just fine for months. Have you tried removing the job entirely from cron and re-adding it? It might be enough to kick-start the process into behaving. -- Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
Re: [PHP] cron job problem
On 10/23/2012 6:57 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Tue, 2012-10-23 at 18:36 -0400, Jim Giner wrote: On 10/23/2012 6:18 PM, David OBrien wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: Crontab is the daemon which runs cron jobs, and some distros have set up special files called cron.daily (or daily.cron I don't recall), cron.hourly, etc to make it easier to schedule jobs. Quick clarification and correction here: The cron *daemon* is crond, while the *script* that is batch-processed by cron is called the crontab. When it is executed, it is referred to as a cron job. That said, Ash is right about the rest. Different OS flavors (BSD, Linux, UNIX, SunOS/Solaris, HP-UX, et cetera) often use different path and file standards. Linux, in general, uses a command `crontab` which opens the local user's environment-configured editor to modify the user's crontab in the spool. -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php script runs ntp updates server time script runs again? But why now? This process has been running just fine for months. Have you tried removing the job entirely from cron and re-adding it? It might be enough to kick-start the process into behaving. Yes my host asked me to do that earlier. And nope - no better. I have told them it's gotta be something on their end because I tested the script from a browser displaying what it was doing and it ran fine. Removed my debug settings and ran it from a browser and again it ran fine. Re-scheduled the cron task and it ran wrong. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] cron job problem
On Tue, 2012-10-23 at 18:51 -0400, Jim Giner wrote: On 10/23/2012 6:57 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Tue, 2012-10-23 at 18:36 -0400, Jim Giner wrote: On 10/23/2012 6:18 PM, David OBrien wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: Crontab is the daemon which runs cron jobs, and some distros have set up special files called cron.daily (or daily.cron I don't recall), cron.hourly, etc to make it easier to schedule jobs. Quick clarification and correction here: The cron *daemon* is crond, while the *script* that is batch-processed by cron is called the crontab. When it is executed, it is referred to as a cron job. That said, Ash is right about the rest. Different OS flavors (BSD, Linux, UNIX, SunOS/Solaris, HP-UX, et cetera) often use different path and file standards. Linux, in general, uses a command `crontab` which opens the local user's environment-configured editor to modify the user's crontab in the spool. -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php script runs ntp updates server time script runs again? But why now? This process has been running just fine for months. Have you tried removing the job entirely from cron and re-adding it? It might be enough to kick-start the process into behaving. Yes my host asked me to do that earlier. And nope - no better. I have told them it's gotta be something on their end because I tested the script from a browser displaying what it was doing and it ran fine. Removed my debug settings and ran it from a browser and again it ran fine. Re-scheduled the cron task and it ran wrong. It does sound like it's definitely a problem their end. Could you alter the script in some way to check for a token set on the correct schedule? Or, perhaps rename the script and set up the cron to it again, so that if there is a secondary link to it in cron it will fail, and might give you an idea about where it's being called from. I know this is all a crazy attempt to prove it's a problem with the hosting, but from experience they can sometimes be slow to recognise it without a lot of definite proof. -- Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
