Re: [PHP] Static methods vs. plain functions
2013/9/19 Simon Dániel simondan...@gmail.com Hi, I am working on an OOP project, and cannot decide which way to follow when I have to write a simple function. For example, I want to write a function which generates a random string. In an OOP environtment, it is a matter of course to create a static class and a static method for that. But why? Isn't it more elegant, if I implement such a simple thing as a plain function? I'd say: Definitely! Not to mention that a function is more efficient than a class method. Actually I wouldn't be so sure about that. So, in object-oriented programming, what is the best practice to implement such a simple function? In strict-OOP [1] you would choose a static method, because functions are simply forbidden. However, PHP isn't strict about that by itself. So I for myself don't like the dogmatic We use classes and nothing else!-approach. If a function fits better, it's OK to be a function. [1] Actually that would end up in a mix of OOP and class-oriented programming, which isn't that strict. -- github.com/KingCrunch
Re: [PHP] Static methods vs. plain functions
I think that it would be more elegant if you are already in a OOP to keep the flow and stick to OOP. It just doesn't make sense to me in an environment that uses OOP to have functions laying around. Personally I like to group similar functionality together in their own objects, this way I can reuse them on different projects, the random string generator is an excellent example of something I usually use in almost all of my projects. Function calling is usually faster than object calling (depends on how you benchmark it) since there is an overhead to it. There are some who tried to benchmark this and had opposite results, It all comes down to how are you going to use that functionality: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=538076 http://www.micro-optimization.com/global-function-vs-static-method Personally in my projects - specifically if I use a framework, I try to stay away from making standalone functions unless absolutely necessary. On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Sebastian Krebs krebs@gmail.comwrote: 2013/9/19 Simon Dániel simondan...@gmail.com Hi, I am working on an OOP project, and cannot decide which way to follow when I have to write a simple function. For example, I want to write a function which generates a random string. In an OOP environtment, it is a matter of course to create a static class and a static method for that. But why? Isn't it more elegant, if I implement such a simple thing as a plain function? I'd say: Definitely! Not to mention that a function is more efficient than a class method. Actually I wouldn't be so sure about that. So, in object-oriented programming, what is the best practice to implement such a simple function? In strict-OOP [1] you would choose a static method, because functions are simply forbidden. However, PHP isn't strict about that by itself. So I for myself don't like the dogmatic We use classes and nothing else!-approach. If a function fits better, it's OK to be a function. [1] Actually that would end up in a mix of OOP and class-oriented programming, which isn't that strict. -- github.com/KingCrunch
Re: [PHP] Static methods vs. plain functions
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 06:28:32PM +0200, Simon Dániel wrote: Hi, I am working on an OOP project, and cannot decide which way to follow when I have to write a simple function. For example, I want to write a function which generates a random string. In an OOP environtment, it is a matter of course to create a static class and a static method for that. But why? Isn't it more elegant, if I implement such a simple thing as a plain function? Not to mention that a function is more efficient than a class method. So, in object-oriented programming, what is the best practice to implement such a simple function? Best practices are for academics and people who read Datamation. You have to look at why OOP exists and then ask yourself if the function you wish to create really needs any of the values that attend OOP. You also have to look at how simple your code is to read and understand. Based on what you've described, there would appear to be absolutely no value in making it into a class with a static method. In that case, all you would have done is to add an extra level of complexity to your code. If I were a programmer coming in after you to work with your code, I'd ask myself why in the world you did that. And if feasible, I would change it back to a flat function for the sake of simplicity. Always prefer non-OOP unless you have some compelling reason to make something object-oriented. For example, the interface to a DBMS is something which may involve many many functions. It is definitely something which benefits from OOP code, not flat functions. I've personally found that dates benefit from this same treatment. Paul -- Paul M. Foster http://noferblatz.com http://quillandmouse.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Static methods vs. plain functions
2013/9/19 Aziz Saleh azizsa...@gmail.com I think that it would be more elegant if you are already in a OOP to keep the flow and stick to OOP. It just doesn't make sense to me in an environment that uses OOP to have functions laying around. buzzword: multi-paradigm. Thats why it could make sense ;) Personally I like to group similar functionality together in their own objects, - That aren't objects, but classes. Actually you don't programm in object-oriented, but in class-oriented (or probably a mix) - You can (imo should) use namespaces this way I can reuse them on different projects, the random string generator is an excellent example of something I usually use in almost all of my projects. Function calling is usually faster than object calling (depends on how you benchmark it) since there is an overhead to it. There are some who tried to benchmark this and had opposite results, It all comes down to how are you going to use that functionality: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=538076 http://www.micro-optimization.com/global-function-vs-static-method Personally in my projects - specifically if I use a framework, I try to stay away from making standalone functions unless absolutely necessary. On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Sebastian Krebs krebs@gmail.comwrote: 2013/9/19 Simon Dániel simondan...@gmail.com Hi, I am working on an OOP project, and cannot decide which way to follow when I have to write a simple function. For example, I want to write a function which generates a random string. In an OOP environtment, it is a matter of course to create a static class and a static method for that. But why? Isn't it more elegant, if I implement such a simple thing as a plain function? I'd say: Definitely! Not to mention that a function is more efficient than a class method. Actually I wouldn't be so sure about that. So, in object-oriented programming, what is the best practice to implement such a simple function? In strict-OOP [1] you would choose a static method, because functions are simply forbidden. However, PHP isn't strict about that by itself. So I for myself don't like the dogmatic We use classes and nothing else!-approach. If a function fits better, it's OK to be a function. [1] Actually that would end up in a mix of OOP and class-oriented programming, which isn't that strict. -- github.com/KingCrunch -- github.com/KingCrunch