On 2015-06-14 Sun 08:36 AM |, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 10:31:28PM +0100, Craig Skinner wrote:
On 2015-06-13 Sat 22:39 PM |, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 08:18:41PM +0100, Craig Skinner wrote:
Inspiration taken from the
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 02:36:49PM +0100, Craig Skinner wrote:
On 2015-06-14 Sun 08:36 AM |, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 10:31:28PM +0100, Craig Skinner wrote:
On 2015-06-13 Sat 22:39 PM |, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 08:18:41PM +0100, Craig
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 10:31:28PM +0100, Craig Skinner wrote:
On 2015-06-13 Sat 22:39 PM |, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 08:18:41PM +0100, Craig Skinner wrote:
Inspiration taken from the postfix-{en,dis}able,install scripts:
Much moved out of the rc script and into
Hi there,
Here's an update that enables CUPS to run on boxes which
usually read-only mount both /usr /usr/local
The current rc script alters /usr, /etc /dev on each start/stop.
Inspiration taken from the postfix-{en,dis}able,install scripts:
Much moved out of the rc script and into
On 2015-06-13 Sat 20:18 PM |, Craig Skinner wrote:
Inspiration taken from the postfix-{en,dis}able,install scripts:
Much moved out of the rc script and into 'cups-toggle (enable|disable)'.
So as to not clutter the last mail, here's a sample script run:
craig@spruce:~ 0$ sudo cups-toggle
On 2015-06-13 Sat 22:39 PM |, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 08:18:41PM +0100, Craig Skinner wrote:
Inspiration taken from the postfix-{en,dis}able,install scripts:
Much moved out of the rc script and into 'cups-toggle (enable|disable)'.
I prefer the way it's done
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 08:18:41PM +0100, Craig Skinner wrote:
Hi there,
Here's an update that enables CUPS to run on boxes which
usually read-only mount both /usr /usr/local
The current rc script alters /usr, /etc /dev on each start/stop.
Inspiration taken from the
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 09:15:46PM -0500, Steve Shockley wrote:
On 12/12/2008 2:40 PM, Jacob Meuser wrote:
Who knows about -M? I'm serious. I've never used that option before,
and it's totally nonobvious that I should look through the man page to
find it.
uh, you're saying it's totally
One other thing: There is no man cups-enable. Also one cant get help.
Personally I like to use it in /etc/rc.local to do this if links are not
set, but I could
not get any infos about any options - also not via cups-enable -h or
cups-enable --help.
regards,
Thilo
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:38:10AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
.It Fl M
Show the install-message file (if any) for each package.
+If any step not documented in the manual must be taken before a package
+can be used, this file will often mention it.
That is an attempt to entirely push
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008, Jacob Meuser wrote:
I think it would also be nice if README.OpenBSD were in pkg/ dirs
and handled automatically, kinda like MESSAGE is now. adding files/
dirs seems like a waste.
I like this.
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Antoine
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:27:44PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
Ted is right. I do know about -M but I use it so frequently that I
always have to find it in the man. pkg_info could should be able to
display this info like pkg_info cups. That makes intuitive sense to me
and I think others
* Landry Breuil wrote:
[...]
about. But i think sthen@'s proposal to add a message like 'This package
has additional information, view it with pkg_info -M' is the most
'user-friendly'.
Yes, I'd second that.
be sometimes big
I think some is outright bloat. take the cups MESSAGE for example:
To enable CUPS, execute '${PREFIX}/sbin/cups-enable' as root.
To disable CUPS, execute '${PREFIX}/sbin/cups-disable' as root.
To start cups at boot time, add the following to
/etc/rc.local:
if [ -x ${PREFIX}/sbin
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008, Jacob Meuser wrote:
how is too big defined? is the above abbreviated CUPS message too
big to add to the default pkg_info output?
At one point I was told that too big = 15 lines.
how about a standard directory for README.OpenBSD files?
Ted Unangst wrote on Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 05:20:19PM -0500:
Why would I know to use -M? Because I read the man page and want to
see the install-message file? I already installed the damn thing,
so obviously I don't want to see that file.
The install message is not a message explaining how
.It Fl M
Show the install-message file (if any) for each package.
+If any step not documented in the manual must be taken before a package
+can be used, this file will often mention it.
That is an attempt to entirely push the problem under the table.
The default message should be relevant.
On 12/12/2008 2:40 PM, Jacob Meuser wrote:
Who knows about -M? I'm serious. I've never used that option before,
and it's totally nonobvious that I should look through the man page to
find it.
uh, you're saying it's totally nonobvious that people should read the
manuals of tools they are
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 09:50:15AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2008/12/12 08:06, Marc Balmer wrote:
It's also not mentioned by pkg_info as something of interest. It
should be, right?
Your are wrong. When you install CUPS, a message is displayed.
That message can be
On 2008/12/12 08:06, Marc Balmer wrote:
It's also not mentioned by pkg_info as something of interest. It
should be, right?
Your are wrong. When you install CUPS, a message is displayed.
That message can be redisplayed at any time using 'pkg_info -M cups'.
These are too easy to miss
* Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2008/12/12 08:06, Marc Balmer wrote:
It's also not mentioned by pkg_info as something of interest. It
should be, right?
Your are wrong. When you install CUPS, a message is displayed.
That message can be redisplayed at any time using 'pkg_info -M
Marc Balmer m...@msys.ch writes:
Your are wrong. When you install CUPS, a message is displayed.
That message can be redisplayed at any time using 'pkg_info -M cups'.
Is this like Postfix where postfix is disabled by pkg_add -u and the
message about enabling it drowns in the bazillion of lines
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 09:50:15AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2008/12/12 08:06, Marc Balmer wrote:
It's also not mentioned by pkg_info as something of interest. It
should be, right?
Your are wrong. When you install CUPS, a message is displayed.
That message can be
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 09:46:32AM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote:
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:06 AM, Marc Balmer m...@msys.ch wrote:
It's also not mentioned by pkg_info as something of interest. It
should be, right?
Your are wrong. When you install CUPS, a message is displayed.
That message
databases and whatever is not good.
I think postfix was fixed to not break this way (at least it didn't
shut down when I upgraded a few hours ago), if this is the issue with
cups, it should be fixed too.
actually, it's upgrading base that is likely to break cups, assuming
you rely on cups-enable
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Jacob Meuser wrote:
one last note: pretty much every driver that can be used with cups
can be used with base lpd, it's just a little more work ... imo the
This is true except it is much more complicated to pass options to stock
lpd than it is for cups if I want e.g. a4
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Jacob Meuser wrote:
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 09:48:35PM +0100, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Jacob Meuser wrote:
one last note: pretty much every driver that can be used with cups
can be used with base lpd, it's just a little more work ... imo the
idea.
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RCS file: /home2/cvs/OpenBSD/ports/print/cups/files/cups-enable,v
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On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote:
These are too easy to miss at some point after installation.
What does anyone think about doing something like this?
Blech
The issue is mostly to have less stuff displayed during installation, which
is not yet done, but
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 08:31:07PM +0100, Marc Espie wrote:
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 09:50:15AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2008/12/12 08:06, Marc Balmer wrote:
It's also not mentioned by pkg_info as something of interest. It
should be, right?
Your are wrong. When you
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 04:40:23PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote:
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote:
These are too easy to miss at some point after installation.
What does anyone think about doing something like this?
Blech
The issue is mostly to have less
freaking purpose of the program. So why
does it make me beg pretty please to print some basic info?
Of all the reasons I might have to run pkg_info cups after
installation, to find out about cups-enable is the #1 reason I would
do so.
Why would I know to use -M? Because I read the man page
Ted is right. I do know about -M but I use it so frequently that I
always have to find it in the man. pkg_info could should be able to
display this info like pkg_info cups. That makes intuitive sense to me
and I think others as well.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:00:20PM +0100, Marc Espie wrote:
wondering why things stopped working after an upgrade, it took me a
little while to remember that lpr was overwritten. but then it took a
while longer to find cups-enable, even after I remembered that I
needed to run it, because it's not cupsenable, which is the only one
that shows up when I type
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:00:21AM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote:
wondering why things stopped working after an upgrade, it took me a
little while to remember that lpr was overwritten. but then it took a
while longer to find cups-enable, even after I remembered that I
needed to run it, because
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 05:33:17AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote:
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:00:21AM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote:
While on the subject, the lpd.pre-cups test is a little broken. I had
my old lpd backed up (pre-upgrade). Now the 4.4 tools are gone, and
the backups are from 4.3 or
* Ted Unangst wrote:
wondering why things stopped working after an upgrade, it took me a
little while to remember that lpr was overwritten. but then it took a
while longer to find cups-enable, even after I remembered that I
needed to run it, because it's not cupsenable, which is the only one
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