[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-28 Thread Brian Turner
I only ride big, wide platforms with pins. I like the comfort and freedom of riding in whatever shoes I want. Makes it easier to just jump on the bike and go without having to think too much about wearing a special shoe or article of clothing. None of the riding I do would benefit from foot

[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-28 Thread Caroline Golum
I could never commit to full clips, and don't have a very "roadie" set-up on my bike, so for the last 10+ years I've done a combo of the MKS compact pedals and their half clips. I find it helpful when biking in heels, boots, flats, whatever, since I only ride in athletic shoes when I'm going a

[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-27 Thread Philip Williamson
I ride flats with pins. Fixed, technical singletrack, road, commuting. I started with clips and plastic straps on mountain bike bear trap pedals, then rode SPDs and then Eggbeaters. When my kid was little, I made platforms for the eggbeaters by screwing cleats to platforms I cut out of old

Re: [RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-27 Thread 藍俊彪
On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 5:56 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 2:21 PM Piaw Na wrote: > >> ... After a while [the kids] got strong enough that a tow rope hitched to >> my bike could drag them up the mountains, so I switched back to SPDs and it >> felt so good. >> > > Now, a

Re: [RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-26 Thread Patrick Moore
On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 2:21 PM Piaw Na wrote: > ... After a while [the kids] got strong enough that a tow rope hitched to > my bike could drag them up the mountains, so I switched back to SPDs and it > felt so good. > Now, a picture of this would be delightful to see, tho' I expect that

[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-26 Thread Ian A
One of the main reasons I have ridden SPD on my bikes for distance riding is for the foot support SPD shoes have offered and the fact I am not chewing up or wearing out all my shoes and runners. For commuting, I tend to wear light weight hiking boots and those work great with flat pedals. I

[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-26 Thread RichS
If you have been riding long enough you have likely tried the myriad types of retention and non-retention systems (including shoes). Keds and flats on my Stingray, Avocet (I think) shoes with clips and straps on my early 80s Trek, clip-ins that my 2000s cycling friends told me I "had to have".

[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-26 Thread Piaw Na
I've been riding SPDs since the mid 1990s when they finally became affordable. On my tandem/triplet we had one crash caused my the too long for my kid toe strap getting caught in the timing ring. After that I got SPD click'r pedals for my kids and they've been riding clipless SPDs since. (The

[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-26 Thread ascpgh
My modern cycling (80s onward) has been all with clips and straps then clipless (SPD). Weeks after buying my first MTB I coincidentally trashed my right knee (not bike related injury) and it sat unused for almost nine months. When I began riding again it was on a Minoura track stand and

[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-26 Thread Marc Irwin
I used clipess for years and thought they were the greatest thing ever until one broke. I immediately switched back to the old platforms with toeclips "temporarily." All I noticed when I changed back was that the shoes were more comfortable. I don't think the clipless did anything for me.

[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread Tim Bantham
I am currently using both clip in and flat pedals. I still do roadie group rides with my fellow MAMILs on my Serotta. I use Speedplay pedals for that. I also have a modern mountain bike with SPDs . On my Sam Hillborne I ride flat pedals. If I had my druthers I'd ride flat pedals most of the

[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread George Schick
Seems like a lot of replies in this discussion center around where one does most of his/her riding. If it's mostly start/stop urban streets, then yes platform pedals would be safer. On lightly traveled country roads and bike paths, though, clipless would be workable and probably desirable,

[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread Ted Durant
On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 7:44:43 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote: But I'm curious how many on this RBW list like and use retention and how many don't; and of the former, how many use toe clips and how many use clipless systems -- and what kind. I started riding bikes in 1968. In 1978 I

Re: [RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread Richard Rose
My journey is very simple to JS’s but without the mishaps. ‘70’s toe clips & straps (PX10) all the way to clipless. Rode clipless (Speedplay road, mostly eggbeater’s MTB) for years / decades without incident. Decided to give large platforms a try maybe 10 years ago - do not remember why - and have

[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread 'Tom M' via RBW Owners Bunch
White Industries urban pedals (or MKS equivalents) and half-clips on my bikes, including the tandem. Tried Look pedals for a year and, while I like the way they felt, I never got comfortable clipping in and clipping out for traffic lights etc. Went to half-clips and never regretted it. I like

[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread J S
I rode with clips and straps for most of my riding years (started I believe with them in the mid ‘70’s on my first 10 speed. I tried clipless in the ‘90’s (frogs) but took a bad spill when I was unable to disengage hurting my leg, and back to clips and straps. After my second back surgery and

[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-25 Thread Patch T
I like it all - except toe clips :) After refusing to "clip in" for many years, I finally tried SPDs 5 or 6 years ago and really enjoy the power transfer I perceive (actual or imagined, who cares? I like it) and a sense of connection or connectedness to the pedals, cranks, bike. I've

[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-24 Thread Steve
And here's another rider who wore Beta Bikers back in the day with toe clips and straps, then Look clipless pedals with the big honkin' cleats, then some Speedplays till I wore them out, and finally settled on SPDs. (As an aside, I think the Looks were the best of any of them, but lawdy -

[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-24 Thread George Schick
Patrick - my experiences with pedal retention or the lack thereof pretty much mirrors yours, almost verbatim. And I agree that through the years of clips and straps with or without cleats, LOOK type clipless, SPD clipless, and occasional dip into simple platforms with pins, I've finally

[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-24 Thread Wesley
I have SPD mountain pedals on my road bike and tandem. They're very important for the tandem, because so much communication happens through the pedals. They're less essential for the road bike. I have flat pedals on my main (commuter) bike, but bought flat cycling shoes for my rides because