George - I recently went on a quest to find an old non suspension corrected
(1st or 2nd gen) Surly 1x1 or Karate Monkey and it was nearly impossible
and their prices are quite high at least in Canada. There are little or no
single speed specific mtb/atb frames these days (except the crust
We all love our Rivendell's very very much and think highly of them. But
just a point of perspective I would like to point out - not many people
take a sloping top tube bike seriously. I've been friends with houseless
folks in neighborhoods I've worked in the past. Bike and parts theft is
I have to retract my previous message a bit. A Web investigation reveals
that the Surly 1x1 frame is no longer available from the manufacturer.
Rats!! This would've been the perfect bike. Evidently the single-speed
era has surpassed us now.
On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 1:43:29 PM UTC-5
I'll chime in with yet another recommendation (would be my choice if I were
going to be shipping a kid of to a campus in the near future): a Surly
1x1. They're single speed frames, rather on the heavy side made from 4130
chro-moly tubing, powder coated for durability, and can be set up with a
That looks like mine on the right - a P-15 in Kool Lemon, but with the
Schwinn branded Shimano RD. I didn't have any shoes, I rode it barefooted.
It was basically the only thing I owned, other than a couple pairs of pants
and T-shirts. The good old days.
Laing
On Friday, August 11, 2023 at
A hard question. 50 years ago, I left for college and rode a Gitane Tour de
France (Reynolds 531 frame, silk sew-up tires, mostly Campagnolo
components) to class. I locked it up in the bushes (bike racks were not a
thing at that point in time) and carried my books in my Boy Scout Yucca
Just made this decision with my kid headed off to college in less than 2
weeks, as the bike they have had for the past 8 years has no business in a
college bike rack.
Was originally looking at 80s/90s mountain bikes, however they can be a
little sluggish, so I ended up picking up a ~1997
@Wes -
Thank-you.
Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.
On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 11:13:38 AM UTC-7 Wesley wrote:
> Hi Kim,
> The way to measure is from one axle to the other. The maximum measurement
> that will fit on bike racks on Sacramento busses (pretty much identical to
> racks I've used/seen
Hi Kim,
The way to measure is from one axle to the other. The maximum measurement
that will fit on bike racks on Sacramento busses (pretty much identical to
racks I've used/seen in other cities) is approximately 45".
-Wes
On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 9:14:41 AM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
@Leah-
I thank-you for the information. I appreciate it.
Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.
On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 10:08:46 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
wrote:
> There is no new generation H. They were discontinued after a short while.
> The old L models are shorter than the new models. I
There is no new generation H. They were discontinued after a short while. The old L models are shorter than the new models. I have a 2019 Clem L and it is much longer than the 2015 Clementine my MIL owned.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 9, 2023, at 1:02 PM, Kim H. wrote:@Leah -Thank-you. Do you know,
@Leah -
Thank-you.
Do you know, if both the first generation Clem H and L models are both
shorter than the new generation Clem H and L models ?
Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.
On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 9:22:49 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
wrote:
> Not these two Clems - the H is a first
Not these two Clems - the H is a first generation model, which was shorter AND it’s a 52.On Aug 9, 2023, at 12:14 PM, Kim H. wrote:@
Jonathan
-Does the Clem H and the Clem L have the same wheelbase or not ?I know my Clem L from the outer length from end to end of the wheels measures close to
@ Jonathan -
Does the Clem H and the Clem L have the same wheelbase or not ?
I know my Clem L from the outer length from end to end of the wheels
measures close to 80" long. Too long for a bike rack for a transit bus is
my belief.
Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.
On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 7:36:47
I mean the fallback is to take the smaller Clem H. It will be easier to get
onto public transport bike racks and be easier to slot into a dorm at night
too. The choice doesn't have to be Clem L or total beater. That Clem H is a
killer bike that has slightly less sentimental value if it happens
If this is a question of bicycle happiness level (BHL)for a first year
college student we may be spending more energy on this than we should.
Difficult to judge the BHL for an 18 y.o. when we are looking at this
through our rose or not so rose colored glasses. Who is to say the student
on the 100
Wow, this thread has generated a lot of response, and I’ve enjoyed reading
every post. It’s such a shame we have to go to extremes to avoid bike theft
- carrying heavy u-locks, being so choosy about parking and locking,
replacing parts, making the bike ugly, choosing to ride an undesirable bike
Similar to Mackenzy, I’ve been bike commuting to college campuses for many
decades, the last 30 of which have been in the Boston area. I’ve never had
a bike stolen likely because (1) I use a decent lock and (2) never park it
outside overnight. I have colleagues who would never leave their bikes
I'm amazed at the amount of discouragement of use of the Clem as a college
commuting bike.
I've worked at universities a good chunk of my life and commuted with
high(er) end bikes and never had any issues. I like riding nice bikes -
which is why I own them. I've parked in high foot traffic
Throwing in my two cents as someone who had a bike on campus all 4 years of
college. I always brought it into my dorm room when I was there, and just
kept it locked outside of classes during the day. it can be a bit cramped
in the dorm room with a bike in there, but I always made it work. Never
I'm with Max on this. It's a good bike designed to be used as a
commuter/shopper/cruiser, and not so maddeningly expensive that it can't be
replaced* if need be.
*Yes I realize this is relative and a Clem isn't cheap by 'Walmart bike'
standards. I'm talking in terms I can relate to, i.e., my
When I was a kid, I had a Specialized Ascent (?) MTB stolen from an
apartment complex parking "garage". I had bought that bike with my paper
route & other kid job money, so it really hurt! In grad school, I also had
an XT seatpost & Ti Flite saddle stolen from my MB2 parked in front of a
I'm sorry to say that I think it will get stolen. I took a bike to college
and enough parts were stolen off of it to make it unusable within the first
year. It wasn't even a desirable bike or parts.
I wish you good luck if you try this.
Best regards,
Matt in Oswego
On Saturday, August
I'm currently building a bike for a good friend's son who is going off to
college. It's a mid-1990s Mercian. Its going to Boston. I'm having second
thoughts and thinking of just giving him the cash and telling him to buy a
decent enough beater off of the local Craigslist, and having a LBS
One thing, Leah...and believe me ,no offense meant, but I know your
penchant for pretty things If that bike goes to college, you might want
to dial down the bling. Just sayin'. In this wicked world, it's stressful
owning nice things. Your son SHOULD be able to ride his lovely Clem to
college,
This is really tough. A lot has to do with where he is going and how much
he will be using the bike. Someone above said to get the lay of the land
before deciding. I kept my bike vertical in my dorm room, but it was
outside and locked up when I went to work or class; even a long bike like
I agree with Bill's sentiments above. Clem at college would be so enjoyable
for your son, if that is worth the risk that others have shared their
fears/experiences thoroughly now.
I dunno how the timing would work out, but with the upcoming Chicago rbw
ride you're organizing you could chat up
Leah
I think I share most of the attitudes of the people shouting "Don't do it!"
But, I think there's some nuance behind it.
That nuance is this: If you send your child to college with a bicycle, PLAN
on that bicycle being stolen. Since you are planning on that bike being
stolen, what
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