Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-11-25 Thread Garth
Patrick, The Lowe Alpine cap from Mountain Equipment is totally windproof and waterproof, just to let you know in case. I have some OR Wind Pro fleece Peruvian style caps with a chin cord I wear in milder conditions, but when below 40 I really need some wind stopping as I tend to take a chill

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-11-25 Thread Patrick Moore
+1 for plastic bags, tho' I use them for wind protection in mesh shoes when it's not quite cold enough for my winter shoes. Over wool socks, 1 or even 2 pairs as needed. Head: Back when I had a pony tail (I have thick hair) I wondered why people got het up about hats. Now that it's cropped to

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-11-25 Thread Brian Turner
I just received the Kinco waterproof Work + Ski mitt for my birthday and am anxious to get to try them out on some cold rides this Winter. They’re leather mittens, but have a 5-finger liner built into them to keep your fingers toasty.BrianLex KyOn Nov 25, 2023, at 3:00 PM, Garth wrote:I was

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-11-25 Thread Garth
I was wondering how I was going to fare wearing the Kinco Axeman mittens this morning @26 degrees, sunny and a light crisp dry fresh breeze. I wore the longer cuff Harbor Freight 7 mil nitrile gloves underneath, reversed so the slick inside glides with the fleece interior of the mitt. W U N D

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-11-25 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks. Those are warmer than PI Lobsters? I've been trying to sell my lobsters but no response, and I may just keep them; they'll fit inside the new leather/fleece-lined mittens for very cold mornings without (apparently; haven't yet ridden with this combo) binding or squashing. On Sat, Nov 25,

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-11-25 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks. No, I use drops exclusively and in any event like to move my hands around; also, I've got 4 bikes. On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 10:35 AM Frakern wrote: > I have trouble with cold hands too. If you have upright handlebars, I'd > suggest trying the handlebar covers that Blue Lug sells. Takes a

[RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-11-25 Thread Tim Donner
I ride in Western Mass, this mornings ride was in the low 20s and these have been really toasty for me in temps down into the teens! GORE-TEX INFINIUM THERMO SPLIT GLOVES . I wear them on my drop bar and swept

[RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-11-25 Thread Frakern
I have trouble with cold hands too. If you have upright handlebars, I'd suggest trying the handlebar covers that Blue Lug sells. Takes a bit of time to get used to look, but they keep my hands super warm to the point that I don't usually need gloves. On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 2:44:57 

[RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-11-20 Thread Patrick Moore
I bought a pair of size Large Guide Gear leather mittens with light fleece lining and inner wool mitten, sub $40. The wool mitten is thin, not at all like the heavy, almost felted wool mittens with my first pair of OR nylon/wool combo, but the OR combination was really too warm for my needs. The

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-10-05 Thread Mackenzy Albright
https://www.halfordsmailorder.com/deer-mitts-gold-ladies-large-glmitt196golll I prefer simple deer skin mittens with fleece liners for anything below freezing to about -19*c / -19*f I've had the same pair for 10 years. I have terrible circulation in my fingers and numb quickly. IMO Lobster

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-10-05 Thread Will Boericke
All leather for this job is a tough choice in my use case. I need mitts to be occasionally waterproof but more often breathable. And in fact, I'll err on the side of breathable because a very waterproof mitt will leave me with wet hands inside anyway. To get leather to the waterproof stage,

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-10-05 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
I also like my Kinco mitts but one note of clarification is that their built in liner is of the 'fingered/gloved' type so each digit is lined separately within the mitten. They are otherwise much warmer than the now heavily worn out cashmere lined leather gloves I was previously using for

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-10-05 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, a second +1 for Kinco products. They're on my short list. On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 2:02 PM David Pulsipher wrote: > The best mittens, hands down - for warmth and cost are the Kinco Ski Mitt > . They can be broken in so they aren't super > dextrous, but as far as

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-10-04 Thread David Pulsipher
The best mittens, hands down - for warmth and cost are the Kinco Ski Mitt . They can be broken in so they aren't super dextrous, but as far as warmth goes, I've used them well into the negatives (-14 up to -20) and every other mitten breaks down at that point,

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-10-03 Thread matt miller
I've used an older version of these First Lite mittens for hunting, and they also had enough feel to operate my cameras. Obviously, they are expensive. My version was much cheaper! But when

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-10-03 Thread Patrick Moore
The trouble with those, besides being bulky looking, is our big temperature differentials. I can often leave at 9 am at 18*F and come back at 50*F. I daresay that if I were riding long periods at sub 20* I'd think differently. On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 9:54 AM Wesley wrote: > Honestly, Bar Mitts

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-10-03 Thread Wesley
Honestly, Bar Mitts brand neoprene pogies are so amazing that I would recommend just buying enough pairs that you can put them on each bike. Or swapping one pair between bikes as necessary (that can be complicated on the drop-bar version, depending on your cable routing). They are far beyond

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-10-03 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks all again. Now the problem is, there are too many damned choices. My first choice would be that Gander hunters' mitten with the flip-back finger cover but I can't find it online. I'll have to review the other choices again, but right now (probably because I just looked at it) I'm leaning at

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-10-03 Thread Justin Kennedy
I use the LL Bean buckskin chopper mittens over a pair of Riv dotty wool gloves. I find the mitten liner the chopper mitts come with to be TOO warm, in fact, and my hands sweat. (I think they're synthetic.) It's also nice to have some dexterity with actual gloves underneath rather than another

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-10-02 Thread Russell Duncan
Bloody hell, reasonably priced gloves On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 7:18:40 PM UTC-6 Russell Duncan wrote: > I use the treasonably priced TEMRES 282-02 gloves for a variety of winter > activities, including riding ATVs and snowmobiles. Good shoulder season > gloves by themselves or add a wool

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-10-02 Thread Russell Duncan
I use the treasonably priced TEMRES 282-02 gloves for a variety of winter activities, including riding ATVs and snowmobiles. Good shoulder season gloves by themselves or add a wool liner. Great gloves for snow shoveling. For that shoulder season time of the year, I drop down a size. For colder

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-10-02 Thread Nick Payne
Have you tried USB heated gloves? A friend we go riding with swears by them in winter, though I haven't used them myself. In winter here we're sometimes riding in temperatures of -5C or accasionally a couple of degrees colder (somewhere around 20F). At those temperatures I find that a pair of

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-10-01 Thread Pam Bikes
I wear Uggs gloves that are shearling w/the Riv overmitts on top. The overmitts don't have a palm so the palm is still my leather glove palm. The layering combo is best for me. I tried ski gloves but didn't feel like they were as warm. And these were the down filled ski gloves. And the

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-09-30 Thread Patrick Moore
The Gander Thinsulate finger flap design would be perfect. Long ago I had something like that, though not as warm as I need: basically a gauntlet cycling glove with leather padded palm and half fingers with flip up finger covers. I'd very much like to get something similar but with more insulation

[RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-09-30 Thread 'jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch
I"m a Lobster Mitt man, myself. I commute through the winters in NYC and Pearl Izumi has been the go-to. I think I'm on my third pair in around 25 years or so. They clean up well in the washer, hang dry - never the dryer (ask me how I know). The upper cuff isn't too annoying with various

[RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-09-30 Thread R. Alexis
I saw these on Ponderosa Cycles site a few weeks ago while browsing. I have dealt with the owner in the past. Worked and partially owned a couple different shops in the past. I will have to check them out next time I am hanging in the area. Missed them several weeks ago while out riding.

[RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-09-30 Thread Marc Irwin
I've used hunter's mittens for years. They have a lot of practical advantages : http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2013/02/toasty-hands.html Marc On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 4:15:59 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: > The fall style thread raises a question about keeping your hands warm

[RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-09-30 Thread 'William Watson' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm still experimenting, but I knit a few pairs of large mittens a few years ago, and then shrunk them down alternating between hot and cold water to shrink/felt them for more warmth. They worked well with all my bikes. In a pinch when it got well below 0 here in Minneapolis, I layered the

[RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-09-29 Thread Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY
I believe the Craft brand lobster/trigger mitts to be rubbish. They don’t let your fingers touch, wasting valuable insulation in between what could otherwise be a cozy skin to skin situation. I love my relatively inexpensive Toko brand cross-country ski gloves, they allow my fingers to cuddle

[RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-09-29 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, all. First, should have specified: No bar mitts or Pogies as I need something that attaches to the hands and can be used on several bikes with drop bars. >From extensive experimenting I'm now convinced that for the teens mittens are best, especially as its easiest to get wool undergloves

[RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-09-28 Thread Garth
I've gone through my own mitten/glove shenanigans on all the fancy brands I've turned to Kinco leather insulated gloves and mitts sold all sort of places locally and online. (Rural King for me !) They're anywhere from $15-$25. I don't wear anything though in the cold without nitrile gloves

[RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-09-28 Thread Will Boericke
Hahahaha, teens is cold. Just some New England humor there. For those temps on my commute, lobsters are definitely where it's at. The Pearl Izumi newest version is not so great. I have the older, bulkier ones and they are warmer and better. Try Craft or my favorite budget lobster

[RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-09-28 Thread Bob
Should have added: the chopper/garbage-hauler mittens worked very well on bikes with downtube shifters and decently well on a fatbike with trigger shifters. I can imagine having difficulty with brifters. -- Bob Cook On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 3:27:57 PM UTC-6 Bob wrote: > Patrick, > >

[RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-09-28 Thread Bob
Patrick, I too have tried the lobster-claw gloves and found them disappointing. Sure, there was some protection across the back from wind, but I could feel cold brake levers through the palm side. I put up with it for a few years, then used Bar Mitts, which were warm enough for me but

[RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-09-28 Thread DavidP
I've found that barmitts or pogies trap heat and keep the wind off allowing me to ride without gloves around freezing temps, and with thinner gloves as the temps drop lower. The best solution for warmth and dexterity, but they require your shifters, grips, and brake levers to all be in close