Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2024-02-05 Thread Doug Hansford
Hi Ahmed,I hope things are good for you. I still am looking to buy a 54 Roadini. Is yours the current geometry?  Let’s work out a sale. 706-614-3592Doug Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 14, 2024, at 6:21 PM, Kim H. wrote:@Doug -Maybe the lighting in the photos are not true to the color of Sergio green

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2024-01-14 Thread Doug H.
My message was poorly worded. I like the Sergio Green. In fact, I've liked all of the green Rivendells I've seen. Orange isn't my favorite though so my hesitation on buying the like new Orange frameset that is now on Craigslist. Thanks all for you help and tips. I'll let this thread roll on

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2024-01-14 Thread Kim H.
@Doug - Maybe the lighting in the photos are not true to the color of Sergio green despite the wording being so ? ... or ? At any rate, I hope you find what you are looking for in less time than you anticipate. Maybe it will be a serendipity experience, like it was with and my blue Clem.

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2024-01-14 Thread Doug H.
Hi Kim, Yeah they do! The price is higher but if I really want green then that is my only option. Orange is available used for less money. Decisions, decisions... :-) Doug On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 11:08:26 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote: > Blue Lug has a Rivendell 54 Roadini Framset

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2024-01-13 Thread Kim H.
Blue Lug has a Rivendell 54 Roadini Framset in Sergio Green in stock ! https://global.bluelug.com/rivendell-roadini-frame-set-sergio-green.html Kim Hetzel. On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 1:17:36 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote: > The first run used mid-reach (47-57mm) brakes, the current model

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2024-01-13 Thread Joe Bernard
The first run used mid-reach (47-57mm) brakes, the current model uses long-reach like Tektro R559. On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 12:58:57 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > Does the orange one have a different spec than the new ones? The dropouts > are perhaps different? Perhaps tire

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2024-01-13 Thread Doug H.
I don't know the answer but my assumption is that it is the same geometry. I sold my Clem so am currently without a Rivendell. I've been riding my Wabi single speed which I really like. Single speed riding is fun but I want a geared bike too. The Roadini seems like the best option for me

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2024-01-13 Thread Richard Rose
Does the orange one have a different spec than the new ones? The dropouts are perhaps different? Perhaps tire clearance as well? Just asking. The Roaduno changed my mind. I have a tigged Riv (Clem) and a fillet brazed one (Gus). So if I am to have a (completely unnecessary) third Riv I decided it

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2024-01-13 Thread Doug H.
I did and have exchanged emails with him. Nice guy and that is a good price. I'm hoping for one of the green framesets but if one doesn't come along I may buy that orange one if it's still available. Thank you for the heads up! Doug On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 3:18:51 PM UTC-5

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2024-01-13 Thread Richard Rose
Doug, did you happen to see the 54 for sale on Craigslist, Cincinnati? I have talked to the guy & the price was down from $1,200 to just $950. It’s NOS or new never built or whatever. Looks new & is orange so from a previous batch? I seriously considered it as I could drive to pick it up but

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2024-01-13 Thread Doug H.
I wanted to bump this up one time to see if anyone has a 54 for sale. I could buy a 50 from Riv but the saddle would be higher than I prefer on that size. Thanks, Doug On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 1:04:50 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote: > That is helpful Brian. Thank you. And, nice job on the

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2023-12-13 Thread Doug H.
That is helpful Brian. Thank you. And, nice job on the sand-stand! Doug On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 12:51:05 PM UTC-5 Brian Cunningham wrote: > Here's a visual, if it helps, of what a 54 looks like with approx. 74cm > saddle height. If it's not instructive in terms of sizing, at least it

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2023-12-13 Thread Johnny Alien
It generally fits. He would be at the very top of what they suggest for that size but if going for a road fit with drops being at the top is preferable to being at the bottom. Most of their "size up" philosophy is based on upright relaxed riding. On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 9:55:30 AM

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2023-12-13 Thread Richard Rose
This is somewhat surprising as it does not seem to align with Riv’s published size suggestions? I too am 5’10” & ride with a 72cm saddle height. Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 12, 2023, at 10:14 AM, Doug H. wrote:I had an email exchange with Will at Rivendell and he suggested a size 50 Roadini for

[RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2023-12-12 Thread Doug H.
Thanks Johnny and Brian. I really could ride either size it seems the difference being how much seat post is showing as you said Brian. I'm thinking drop bars so the 50 might be a little better with that configuration. Doug On Tuesday, December 12, 2023 at 11:31:34 AM UTC-5 Brian Cunningham

[RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2023-12-12 Thread Brian Cunningham
Oops! An error on my part. We have a 2.5cm difference in saddle height, not 2.5 inches. So a 54 should still give you four inches of seatpost. On Tuesday, December 12, 2023 at 8:28:52 AM UTC-8 Brian Cunningham wrote: > Doug, > > Will is probably leading you in the right direction. Some data

[RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2023-12-12 Thread Brian Cunningham
Doug, Will is probably leading you in the right direction. Some data points that might help you from my 54 Roadini. Shod with 700X42s, the standover height is 32". I'm 6'0" with a 85 PBH/74cm saddle height. My saddle height gives me 5 inches of seatpost visible, so you'd be down to 2.5".

[RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2023-12-12 Thread Johnny Alien
It depends how you want it set up but if you are going for more of a traditional road bike the 54 would ride like a 57 or something around there. A 50 would ride more like a 54. On Tuesday, December 12, 2023 at 10:14:28 AM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote: > I had an email exchange with Will at Rivendell

[RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2023-12-12 Thread Doug H.
I had an email exchange with Will at Rivendell and he suggested a size 50 Roadini for me. I'm 5'10" with an 83 PBH and 71.5" saddle height. Since that size is in stock I'll probably get a frameset to build up. Thanks all. Doug On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 12:18:39 PM UTC-5 John Dewey wrote:

[RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

2023-12-08 Thread John Dewey
On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 5:28:34 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote: Frameset or complete would work. Doug Hansford Athens, Ga -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini Frame

2023-09-05 Thread River Bailey
Fast! I think it was $165 On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 9:48:16 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com wrote: > How was the shipping? > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 6:40 PM River Bailey wrote: > >> Found one at Blue Lug! :-) >> >> On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 1:18:19 PM UTC-4 River Bailey wrote: >>

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini Frame

2023-09-05 Thread Eliot Balogh
How was the shipping? On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 6:40 PM River Bailey wrote: > Found one at Blue Lug! :-) > > On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 1:18:19 PM UTC-4 River Bailey wrote: > >> Looking for 54 Roadini frame in new Sergio Green. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini Frame

2023-09-05 Thread River Bailey
Found one at Blue Lug! :-) On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 1:18:19 PM UTC-4 River Bailey wrote: > Looking for 54 Roadini frame in new Sergio Green. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-08-06 Thread danielle da cruz
Congrats, Johnny! Excited to see what you do with it. On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 8:43:07 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: > The Roadini frames were in stock long enough to tempt me into getting one. > Dark gold one coming my way. > > On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 7:49:40 AM UTC-4 Ryan wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-08-05 Thread Johnny Alien
The Roadini frames were in stock long enough to tempt me into getting one. Dark gold one coming my way. On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 7:49:40 AM UTC-4 Ryan wrote: > Garth, FWIW I really like those VO Grand Cru calipers. I replaced a set of > Record 80's calipers/brake levers with Grand Crus

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-08-05 Thread Ryan
Garth, FWIW I really like those VO Grand Cru calipers. I replaced a set of Record 80's calipers/brake levers with Grand Crus and the TRP levers someone posted about recently and it's a combo I've been really happy with.If it matters, a number of years ago in *Bicycle Quarterly* Jan Heine did

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-08-05 Thread Garth
I have no idea where the frames are being made or any of the other particulars beyond what was printed by VO. Taiwan is likely of course as I think that's where they have the majority of the business relationships. I'm eager to try their Grand Cru calipers too. I've never used any caliper

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-08-04 Thread J S
Garth, looks really nice. Are they made in Taiwan? Enjoy On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 4:09 PM Garth wrote: > I pre-ordered the VO Rando today. Through the 6th the frames are > discounted 20% for pre-orders. I hadn't even been aware of them. Road bike > heaven, Yippee ! > > I finally got the drop

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-08-04 Thread Garth
I pre-ordered the VO Rando today. Through the 6th the frames are discounted 20% for pre-orders. I hadn't even been aware of them. Road bike heaven, Yippee ! I finally got the drop bars on my Franklin and I had forgotten how much I love riding them, so I'm going the exact opposite of what Riv

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-31 Thread Davey Two Shoes
I've been giving the Soma Pescadero and New VO Rando a serious look. On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:35:32 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote: > Very nice ride Jamin, thanks for sharing. > > JohnS > > On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 10:55:58 AM UTC-4 jamin orrall wrote: > >> Keep an eye out for an 80's specialized

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-31 Thread JohnS
Very nice ride Jamin, thanks for sharing. JohnS On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 10:55:58 AM UTC-4 jamin orrall wrote: > Keep an eye out for an 80's specialized sequoia, they are wonderful bikes. > Fits 32's or 650b's with tektro r559s, rides like a fast Rivendell but a > little flexier. One of

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-29 Thread Bones
Thanks! The saddle height in that picture is probably between 79-80. Bones On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 12:55:05 PM UTC-4 jhri...@gmail.com wrote: > Bones, that's a beautiful Roadini build. Could I ask your saddle height? > I'm 78.5ish with an 89.5 PBH and having a difficult time deciding

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-28 Thread John Rigdon
Bones, that's a beautiful Roadini build. Could I ask your saddle height? I'm 78.5ish with an 89.5 PBH and having a difficult time deciding between frames myself. On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:46:37 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote: > Hello Peter, > > Wow, an '81 Sequoia! Those are very rare since only

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-25 Thread Andrew Turner
I dig Jan’s take on bike weight: your bike shouldn’t weigh more than it has to. As long as you have a good understanding of the bikes purpose and your riding style, your gut will know better than a bathroom scale. On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 12:50 PM Piaw Na wrote: > > 2 cents: don't get carried

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-25 Thread Piaw Na
2 cents: don't get carried away with frame weight, especially when comparing steel frames. I'd focus more on geometry. I wanted my Roadini build to scratch the same itch but the long wheelbase didn't align with my idea of a zippy, skinny-tire road bike. Geometry is by far the most

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-24 Thread Wesley
The two wrenches are to hold one nut still while turning the other, like when serving loose bearing hubs. Most (all?) threaded headsets use a keyed washer between the nuts to prevent one from turning the other, so there's no need for two wrenches. If you want to travel with a bike with threaded

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-24 Thread Piaw Na
Haha. I haven't touched my Chris King threadless headset on my touring bike for years. Getting all the play out took quite a bit of futzing so now I avoid messing with it. For a threaded headset I remember you need 2 wrenches. Just one more thing I don't want to deal with while I'm

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-24 Thread Chasen Smith
Piaw- it does, I was intimidated but I saw a plp vid where he uses the case w a threaded fork, so I just got one of those mini adjustable wrenches that Riv sells and it’s p smooth sailing as long as you keep up with everything. I saw Russ posting recently about some Topeak travel-specific,

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-24 Thread 藍俊彪
Doesn't the post-transfer case require fork removal? Is that hard to do on the threaded headset? I've always avoided cases that require fork removal. On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 8:40 AM Chasen Smith wrote: > Going off of what Piaw said of the AHH, the fact that the roadini will fit > in my post

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-24 Thread Wesley
In my opinion, the most significant difference between a Roadini and a homer is that the Roadini is designed for drop bars (so has a shorter top tube) and the Homer is designed for upright swept-back bars. On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 6:32:03 AM UTC-7 Davey Two Shoes wrote: > Can someone

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-24 Thread Chasen Smith
Going off of what Piaw said of the AHH, the fact that the roadini will fit in my post transfer case was a huge factor in my decision to get one! On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 10:47 AM Piaw Na wrote: > Let me break down the road bike selection from Rivendell: > > Sam: I refuse to consider this a road

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-24 Thread Piaw Na
Let me break down the road bike selection from Rivendell: Sam: I refuse to consider this a road bike since it doesn't take sidepull calipers. :-) I've always hated both cantilever and v-brakes, having experienced many reliability issues with them (they're probably better now, but I still get

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-24 Thread Piaw Na
Oh yeah, the AHH doesn't have downtube shifter bosses, while the Roadini does. Again, a minor consideration --- I'm happy with my downtube shifter on my Roadini, but it wouldn't have killed me to go to bar-end shifters. On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 7:35:31 AM UTC-7 Piaw Na wrote: > The AHH has

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-24 Thread Piaw Na
The AHH has 50cm chainstays, which might make it hard to fit into my bike box for flying (I use a Trico-Ironcase). The AHH also takes 135mm rear wheels, while the wheels I had hanging in the garage were all 130mm wheels. Grant advised against cold setting an AHH. In exchange the Roadini has a

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-24 Thread Davey Two Shoes
Can someone explain to me what would prompt a decision for a roadini over a Homer aside from price? I though the Homer was Rivs "zippy" offering. With the Roadeo being their fast offering. The road bike category at Riv is starting to get crowded between the Sam, Homer, Roadini and Roadeo. I

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-24 Thread J S
For some of us who have had back pain with more modern bikes Rivendells have always been a breath of fresh air. I started buying them in 1997 and have not looked back, they made riding possible for me again. I do prefer the Rivs with the shorter for Riv chainstays. Nice bikes for those of us who

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-24 Thread Nick Payne
On Monday, 24 July 2023 at 2:43:06 pm UTC+10 Joe Bernard wrote: Modern bikes are fine - I recommended the OP consider one as a companion to his Sam - but being on a Rivendell group and calling us "people who've drunk the Kool-Aid" is... interesting  I have Rivendell bikes, and they're nice

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-23 Thread Joe Bernard
Modern bikes are fine - I recommended the OP consider one as a companion to his Sam - but being on a Rivendell group and calling us "people who've drunk the Kool-Aid" is... interesting  On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 8:48:27 PM UTC-7 Nick Payne wrote: > I obviously haven't drunk the Kool-Aid:-)

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-23 Thread Nick Payne
I obviously haven't drunk the Kool-Aid:-) On Monday, 24 July 2023 at 10:26:52 am UTC+10 pi...@gmail.com wrote: > High BB, short chainstays, steep seat-tube angles, and disc brakes? That's > as far away from the Roadini as you can get. Add in wireless shifting and > I'm sorry, that's just not

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-23 Thread Piaw Na
High BB, short chainstays, steep seat-tube angles, and disc brakes? That's as far away from the Roadini as you can get. Add in wireless shifting and I'm sorry, that's just not comparable to any Rivendell I've seen! On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:00:11 PM UTC-7 Nick Payne wrote: > I've come to

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-23 Thread Andrew Turner
2 cents: don't get carried away with frame weight, especially when comparing steel frames. I'd focus more on geometry. I wanted my Roadini build to scratch the same itch but the long wheelbase didn't align with my idea of a zippy, skinny-tire road bike. Conversely, I had the opportunity to

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-21 Thread Valerie Yates
I am not in the market for a Roadini but I love reading all these stories and comparisons. Very fun topic. On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 11:46:37 AM UTC-6 JohnS wrote: > Hello Peter, > > Wow, an '81 Sequoia! Those are very rare since only about 700 were made by > hand. In '82 is when production

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-21 Thread JohnS
Hello Peter, Wow, an '81 Sequoia! Those are very rare since only about 700 were made by hand. In '82 is when production ramped up. Please post a picture if you can. Thanks, John On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 11:58:26 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote: > Very nice build, Bones! B) > > On

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-21 Thread Eric Marth
Very nice build, Bones! B) On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 11:05:30 AM UTC-4 Bones wrote: > I started with an Appaloosa, which I built as a workhorse to ferry my kids > around. I wanted something without all the racks and utility so I purchased > a Hillborne. Great bike, but I found it too

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-20 Thread Tim Bantham
I think we all have bikes that we regret letting go of. I had a custom Gunnar Sport. They called it made to measure so it wasn't 100% custom but it was fit to me where it counts. This was a beautiful tig welded steel frame with an Enve fork. It accepted 32s and rode like a dream. I ended up

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-20 Thread Michael Hammer
I was going to hold back adding to this thread but now can't resist. I was the original owner of a 92 RB-1 and sent it off to a new owner about 4 months ago. It was light, "jumped" when I got on it (consider I'm 74 when reading jump), climbed like crazy and handled smoothly and predictably.

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-20 Thread 藍俊彪
The Saluki/Bleriot were 650B bikes, not 700c bikes. Wheel size makes a world of difference to me. On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 2:51 PM J S wrote: > I have a question regarding the Roadini vs. the old Saluki and Bleriot > bikes. I wonder how similar it is to these? I have a Sam and found a Saluki >

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-20 Thread J S
I have a question regarding the Roadini vs. the old Saluki and Bleriot bikes. I wonder how similar it is to these? I have a Sam and found a Saluki in my size so sold my Bleriot. I am not a fan of the lng chainstays, so the Sam works perfectly for someone like me. I have fat 48mm tires on it

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-19 Thread exliontamer
An RB-1 is a relatively heavy bike especially in 59cm & up & I wouldn't be surprised if the Roadini is the same or possibly lighter. That said, I don't think that's a bad thing depending on the frame size, your personal pedaling style/power, weight, etc. When I was focused on only riding fast I

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-19 Thread Joe Bernard
It's sacrilege to say but if you want a zippy road bike as a compliment to what you already have - a steel Rivendell road bike - for $1000 or less you can scoop up an aluminum Trek/Cannondale/Specialized/Giant off Craigslist and probably have a lot of fun. And you can test ride it! On

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-19 Thread Piaw Na
A drop bar Roadini with 25mm tires will feel great. With 32mm tires it's not going to feel like a 1993 Bridgestone RB-1 with 700x23 tires! But you already knew that. I don't think there's anything disappointing about the Roadini's ride. I think the extra long chainstay takes away from the

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-19 Thread Brenton Eastman
Yeah, I'm leaning towards an RB-1 or something similar. Swap in some Noodles and a reasonable stem, ~30mm tires, and try it out. Definitely less risky than $2500 for a new bike from Riv. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-19 Thread Eric Marth
Over on the iBOB forum there's some discussion from time to time of how the Roadini and the Ram are overbuilt and don't have the performance and response characteristics typical of lively road frames. I myself haven't ridden one, this is a take I've observed time and time again from others.

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-19 Thread Brenton Eastman
I've read everything Riv Staff has written on the Roadini and I believe they are being honest. Lot's of folks here though, have said it's underwhelming. The geometry is remarkably similar to the Hillborne and I guess I don't know if it makes sense. On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:03:16 PM

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-19 Thread Doug H.
This paragraph is from Will's recent email... If this sounds like what you're looking for then I say buy one. "Yes, the Roadini is heavier than a carbon frame, but, and even though it's a cliche phrase at this point, *it rides light* and I don't care if I'm two minutes slower than my