[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

2020-06-10 Thread Jock Dewey
Impressive, Craig. Man, you keep that sweet baby ready-to-go. All packed, just let go the toe-strap & you out the door in search of some tumbleweed to camp under. BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 8:07:41 PM UTC-4, Craig Montgomery wrote: > > *My takeaway from all

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

2020-06-10 Thread Fryfam
Super Tourist tubing or not, no doubt that long TT enhances the flex-magic for your 165-lb, long torso-ed body geo. nice ride! On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 2:01:01 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: > > Yeah Ted it seems I do prefer frames that have some flex in the right > places. The 531ST tubes are

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

2020-06-10 Thread Garth
Well thank you Craig for your input. Like riding on water ! I remember Bruce Lee saying "be like water" of which there is neither offense or defense as such is Life ! I find it a relief realizing this about the frames. To start there with a frame suited to one's own sensibilities of

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

2020-06-09 Thread Mark Roland
Even with the same tubing and geo, a different size frame will have different characteristics as far as liveliness. I bought a Woodrup Giro for a tour of Tuscany a dozen or so years ago, all 531ST. One of the few bikes I ever actively disliked, felt sluggish and dead. But it was a 57cm frame,

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

2020-06-09 Thread Joe Bernard
Garth, I'm not qualified to address the "springiness" factor of the Susie from one trip around the building, but it was definitely floaty and fun! Fat tires do neat stuff, too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

2020-06-09 Thread Garth
I agree Jason . such Omniscience is "not my department" so to speak ! I'm "hoping" that the much longer stays and front end of the Susie exhibits some sort of magic carpet float. It should in "theory" but yeah they said the same thing about the Titanic and icebergs didn't they ! On

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

2020-06-09 Thread Jason Fuller
Funny, I've been wondering the same sort of thing with my Hillborne. In the dozens of bikes I've owned over the years, none have had this magical ability to just gingerly float over everything like the Hillborne. I had the exact same build (incl wheels and tires) on a Soma Grand Randonneur

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

2020-06-09 Thread ted
My Bombadil has Pacenti Quasi-Moto tires. I would think any non uber stout 2 inch tire would behave much the same in this respect. I have another more roadish bike with 47mm tires (wtb byway) I run at ~25psi when I want things cushy. That one does fairly well off road as well. Keep in mind at 20

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

2020-06-09 Thread Garth
Yea Mark like ye' ol' rabbit hole ... and the irresistible temptation to take a peek, "what's in the box ?"... and then you find yourself sucked in it. Until . well until you don't ! On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 6:38:54 AM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote: > > Lots of variables to

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

2020-06-09 Thread Garth
Yes ...nothing to do with tires on this frame... I've had Specialized Armadillo(aptly maned as they were stiff !) tires on it way back and even then the ride was good. t seems starting with suitable tubing and design has more to do with the ride than simply wheels alone. I posted the geo and

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

2020-06-09 Thread Garth
Yes Philip .. sharp is a good word like a sharp .5mm mechanical pencil in contrast to a magic marker ! On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 1:23:29 AM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote: > > I’ve recently built up two bikes with road-sized (26mm-ish) tires, and I > love them. A Bontrager RoadLite

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

2020-06-09 Thread Garth
What are your 50mm tires Ted ? It seems pressure does play a large role in all this ! On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 12:52:31 AM UTC-4, ted wrote: > > Love my road bikes, also love my Bombadil. > > Logged lots of miles on ~21 or 22mm tubulars, was on 26mm tires today. > Yep, ride great.

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

2020-06-09 Thread Garth
Like you DP, a jittery ride, for lack of an all encompassing term, just doesn't work for me either. That's likely why I've preferred road riding so much as I've never had a suitable frame or maybe tires for that matter for my local not-so-maintained township "roads". I'm going to try out some

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

2020-06-09 Thread Garth
You rode a Susie too at RBWHQ, yes ? Was it at least somewhat vertically compliant, springy, flexy ... you know there's a million names for it I suppose ! On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 7:21:47 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I had a Roadini for a while with 33mm Jack Brown's, and a Seven ti

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

2020-06-09 Thread Mark Roland
Lots of variables to consider--frame geometries and tubing/layups, tire width, construction, pressures; rider style and weight; terrain and road conditions; position of the planets, and so on. I like wide mostly these days, but getting on some skinny rubber is fun, and it's about the

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

2020-06-09 Thread Craig Montgomery
Garth, I'd like to know the geometry on your Franklin with 531ST. And a photo. Then I'll tell you of my epiphany (similar to yours I think). Nothing to do with tires. Craig in Tucson On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 4:10:41 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: > > > I've been riding my Franklin Reynolds 531ST

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

2020-06-08 Thread ted
Love my road bikes, also love my Bombadil. Logged lots of miles on ~21 or 22mm tubulars, was on 26mm tires today. Yep, ride great. Probably wouldn't choose them for riding over the ridge in my local open space though. Yes wide tires are just wider, well wider and taller. The wider tends to

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

2020-06-08 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
I am constantly amazed how my QB with RH Stellacomb knobbies is nearly as plush a ride as my Hunqapillar (with liteskin Schwalbe 2.1" Racing Ralphs) and GBW with 2.8" Nobby Niks. Fork flex is a huge part of this. Viewing the Hunqapillar as parallel to your Bomba, I don't like any tires but the