Well, for those curious, I discovered and impulsively bought a set of WTB
Resolute tires in 700x42. A friend of mines wife runs these on her Hoefer (
http://www.hoefercycles.com) gravel bike. My friend also happens to have a
couple other bikes. One runs the RH Umtanum Ridge (650x55) on one bike
Supple Vitese 700x38 on Bob Jackson
Challenge Strada Bianca 700x32 on Roadeo (measure about 33.3)
Gravel King slicks 700x38 on BMC Monstercross
All nice smooth rolling, the feel light enough. Got my first flat on Bob
last week from a goathead. I've not had issues with them, mount easily and
lie
Jason,
I'm digging the 650B × 42 Pumpkin Ridge for crappy road/mellow dirt riding,
but they feel a smidge narrow and skittish on some of the gnarlier terrain
I've discovered since moving here. I have room for 48s, should I dump cash
- it's a LOT of cash - into Juniper Ridges?
Joe Bernard
I'm late to the party, and every angle has already been discussed at
length, but I still want to shout out the RH knobbies. I'm very happy with
them, but more notably for me is that I've recommended them to some riding
buddies and then the good word spread like wildfire and now nearly all my
Tubeless vs non tubeless is probably thread drift... both are fine. One
gets pinch flats at low pressures (which has a lot of nice applications)
and the other doesn't. I've had good luck and slight misfortunes with both!
But yeah, all about wider tires and no/nominal knobs with fenders for
Excellent take Jeremy!
Ted, I mistakenly thought the RH models mentioned in the original post were
their slick equivalents. My bad, didn't mean to push GK slicks on you! In
my experience the other GravelKing options SS and SK were pretty ok but not
the same experience (even on gravelly type
After plugging in my info to all three of these calculators, I get basically the same result - within 1 lb psi. SRAM’s loses points with me for only listing 650 and 700 as wheel size values (boo!).On Oct 7, 2023, at 2:23 PM, Ted W wrote:Thanks for the link, Brian. I’m adding that to the
Thanks for the link, Brian. I’m adding that to the collection of bookmarks
under “bicycle related calculators. It’s so funny how they’re all so
different given very similar information. It just goes to show you how
subjective ride feel can be and how many factors have an effect.
I’ve linked the
I think I’ve run probably 5 sets of Rene Herse tires over the years; both with tubes and tubeless. I’ve actually found that I’ve had good luck referring to Jan’s tire pressure recommendations using his calculator, found here:Tire Pressure Calculatorrenehersecycles.comLike I said, I’ve used this
This is very interesting. I use the extralight Naches Pass at 30-35 and
35-40 f/r depending on load, and I feel no flop or sidewall collapse; not
until pressures drop below 20 psi. The NPs do feel more staid, less nimble
in turn-in than the 28 mm Elk Pass, this on the same bikes, but not at all
*" felt like the front just flipped over on itself"*
That's a good description for what mine feels like. I also notice they get
really loud on sharp turns/curves when the tire is inflated to the psi that
causes the bad handling. The front tire doesn't do that when it's aired up
very hard,
Paul
- From
https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/supple-vitesse-ex-700c-clincher-tire,
original SV sizes were 23, 28, 33, 38, and 42. My interpretation is that
Soma is continuing to make the 42mm SV and the statement you quoted should
be read as the available sizes are now 28c to 42c,
Patrick, no dented rims (fingers crossed) but picked up a NASTY roofing
nail the other day.
SO grateful it — A: didn't pierce my rim — B: was rear & not front. Anyone
out there have a similar nasty object poke a hole in a rim?
Jock
On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 10:38 AM Patrick Moore wrote:
>
In the Conti 5000 camp here @ 32mm. Ram + Ebisu (x2) + Waterford Paramount
— Saluki @ 38mm Pari-Moto
All comfortable, light, fast, reasonably durable + affordable.
Jock
On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 9:14 AM Drew Saunders
wrote:
> My Quickbeam is wearing Riv Jack Brown 700x33.3, which I over-inflate
There's no way you can pump a road tire high enough to prevent a dented rim
when you hit a sharp-edged pothole (or, around here, 6" expansion cracks)
at a high enough speed. I've done this myself even with tire overinflated.
On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 8:10 PM Piaw Na(藍俊彪) wrote:
> ... If you
Note that at least some modern sealants work very well in at least some
very thin, supple tires. OS *regular* formula works as well or almost as
well in lightweight tubes (70 gram Schwalbe 559X~23 mm tubes) in paper thin
RH Elk Passes, and in lightweight tubes (100 gram Schwalbe 559/584X42mm
Ted & Scott: I do run tubes in my tires. The Antelopes at around 25lb and
the Snoqualmies around 37lbs. The Appaloosa is like 37lbs unloaded, not
sure about the Hillborne. I'm between 172 and 178 depending on the day. I
run Giant brand tubes because that's what my LBS has in the correct size. I
Thanks for your thoughts, Eric!
I'm definitely aware of the RH price pain, it's one of the main reasons I
hesitated to get the second set after the experience I had with the Naches
Pass on my Surly. I believe the total after shipping came close to that
$200 mark you mentioned for your Snoqualmie
Continental Mountain King 29x2.2" on my Clem H - I wanted something with
widely spaced knobs for better bite and confidence on some of our local
mixed condition trails to replace the stock Kendas with smoother inverted
tread. I just picked them up during an REI sale a couple years ago. Many
Eric - are you riding tubeless on your RH tires? If not, which tubes do you
prefer?
- Scott
On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 11:31:45 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi Ted — I like Rene Herse tires but refrain from recommending them simply
> because they're so darn expensive and the
Hi Ted — I like Rene Herse tires but refrain from recommending them simply
because they're so darn expensive and the benefits of the casing might not
be appreciated by all. I would just hate for someone to think "Eric
recommended these expensive tires and I don't like 'em!" While I do enjoy
I just installed "cool weather boots" on my Atlantis, a set of Soma
Cazadero 700x50. I do love the handling with these tires compared to the
Soma SV 700x42s that were just on. It feels even more planted and solid
with the wider rubber, which is great for the time of year when cold and
wet come
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 3:27:09 PM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
Over the last few months, I've flatted three or four times on the RHes;
clearly, the tread has worn thin. I was discussing the issue with a
repairman at one of the local bike kitchens. He mentioned that GK Slicks
hold
Panaracer Pro Tite for me. Found most other tires (like Gravel Kings and
Rene Herse) good, but more aspirational about the riding I “could do”
versus what I “really do”. I’m burned out on tan walls right now, so black
wins for me.
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 5:27:09 PM UTC-5
GK Slicks and Compass/RH slicks do get pinhole punctures, but tire pressure
and tire age are both factors. All the Compass/RH tires I've ever ridden
have been acquired used (I have a NIP Babyshoe Pass that I have yet to
try), so the tread had cured at least a little bit before I got them. I
As with gearing and saddles, so with tires; tastes vary vastly. I know
experienced riders who can't be bothered to figure out their gears; if they
can find a gear that is pretty good in most riding situations, they're
happy -- they look blank when you ask them what rings and cogs they are
using.
In fact, I think it was Grant (or maybe Sheldon Brown?) who turned me onto
the idea that wide tires are great, especially when they're NOT knobby. For
the past 15 years, it's been Panaracer Paselas for my road bike and
Schwalbe Big Apple/Fat Frank for my commute/errand bike. The idea that
My Quickbeam is wearing Riv Jack Brown 700x33.3, which I over-inflate to
80psi so I don't have to inflate as often. It's my commuter. I should
probably really run them at about 70psi, and fill them more often, but I'm
lazy.
My 1999 Riv Custom was from when 700x28 were considered "fat meat"
I doubt that Grant was intentionally designing his bikes specifically to
handle better with knobbier tires. I think it's more a product of his own
views of how a bike should handle and the tires that were available/common
at the time he designed the bike. On the first point, he's written a few
OK, somebody made the point about my Rene Herse 700x48s probably measuring
small. Yes, they are more like 44mm wide on my Velocity Dyads. For me the
fenders always limit the tire size. I ran 42mm tires max under my 50mm SKS
fenders. I just installed 63mm VO venders on my Platy and realized I
My Hillborne is currently wearing a pair of center-slick 700 x 47 durable
casing Teravail Washburn tires set up tubeless on Cliffhanger rims. So far
no complaints.
Scott
Amherst, MA
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 7:30:48 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
> Here’s what I’m running:
> Gus -
Here’s what I’m running:Gus - 27.5 x 2.5” Teravail EhlineToyo Atlantis - 26” x 1.8” RH Naches PassI’ve been super impressed with the Teravail Ehlines. Sure, it’s a burly dirt / gravel tire, but they roll surprisingly fast and quiet on pavement. Quieter than a set of Teravail Sparwoods that I have
My bikes:
Toyo Atlantis - 700x42 Continental Contact Speed
Cheviot - 700x38 Blue Lug Fairweather Cruise
Katie's bikes:
Platypus - 650x42 RH Babyshoe Pass
Roadini - 700x35 RH Bon Jon Pass
On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 11:09:12 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
> My Hillborne is currently running
My Hillborne is currently running Panaracer ProTite 650b x 42. I've used
various Protite tires over the years in 26" and 700, and find that for
mixed terrain (mostly pavement, some gravel, a little single-track, and
lots of urban commuting) these tires are fantastic. The same tread pattern
as
Jeremy,
You make a good point about the geometric and pneumatic trail and the
possibility that Grant designed his frames around a knobbier, more general
purpose, tire thus building the frames with more geometric trail. I’d love
to ask Grant that question to know if it was happy coincidence that
I’m not sure I’d say meager but I am curious to see what a skinnier tire on
an Appa made to house some chunky tires would look like with something a
bit smaller. Oddly, I searched around before posting the question here and
found examples at the extreme ends with some wearing 30-35mm tires and
I cannot recommend enough the Simworks Homage. Mine are 27.5 x 55 and are equally at home on tarmac, gravel and mild dirt. Supple enough, durable & dare I say at least as quiet as Fleecer Ridge tires I tried. The 700 version is only available in the narrower 43mm which I bet is lovely. Sent from
Looking at the bikes I have at my home, including the Rivs I'm almost
entirely on Rene Herse tires. This includes an Umtanum Ridge the first
knobby tire from them, I've tried, I'm impressed with the low noise and
rolling resistance for such an aggressive tread. I feel that once you use
them
On my Rivendells I've noticed that, irrespective of the surface I'm riding
on, I actually prefer the handling with larger knobby tires than with
larger slick tires. This is true on both my Clem H (2016, first-gen) with
45-55mm tires and my Rambouillet (green, ~2006 as far as I can tell) with
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