Re: [sage-devel] Re: Docs: Symbols and `self`

2015-09-25 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 7:47:23 AM UTC-7, William wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 4:38 AM, Eric Gourgoulhon > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Le vendredi 25 septembre 2015 08:45:34 UTC+2, Jori Mäntysalo a écrit : > >> > >> More on docstrings: > >> > >> "The

[sage-devel] Re: Docs: Symbols and `self`

2015-09-25 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
> More on docstrings: >> >> "The Frattini sublattice `\Phi(L)` is the intersection - -" vs. "Returns >> the Frattini subgroup of ``self``. The Frattini - -". >> >> 1) Should we include symbols in docstrings? I.e. add \otimes to >> ordinal_product() of posets, as used in Enumerative

Re: [sage-devel] Re: About abbreviation in function names

2015-09-25 Thread John Cremona
On 25 September 2015 at 10:03, Johan S. R. Nielsen wrote: >> I tried that in emacs as I had not heard of it and it sounded useful >> -- but (in a python file) got an error message about requiring a >> python process to be running. > > I'm just referring to (dabbrev-expand),

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Docs: Symbols and `self`

2015-09-25 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 4:38 AM, Eric Gourgoulhon wrote: > Hi, > > Le vendredi 25 septembre 2015 08:45:34 UTC+2, Jori Mäntysalo a écrit : >> >> More on docstrings: >> >> "The Frattini sublattice `\Phi(L)` is the intersection - -" vs. "Returns >> the Frattini subgroup of

[sage-devel] Re: Docs: Symbols and `self`

2015-09-25 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Hi all, Slightly off-topic, but before deciding whether we use LaTeX or not, it would be nice to document how to use latex/tt font in the doc. Each time I happen to write some doc I cannot remember what backquotes and double backquotes do and you have to look deep inside the rest/sphinx doc

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

2015-09-25 Thread John H Palmieri
Please try the latest Sage prerelease (6.9.rc0, available here: http://files.sagemath.org/devel/index.html) should build with Xcode 7, so I hope it builds with OS X 10.11. John On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 8:14:44 AM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 18, 2015 at

[sage-devel] Re: Docs: Symbols and `self`

2015-09-25 Thread Eric Gourgoulhon
Hi, Le vendredi 25 septembre 2015 08:45:34 UTC+2, Jori Mäntysalo a écrit : > > More on docstrings: > > "The Frattini sublattice `\Phi(L)` is the intersection - -" vs. "Returns > the Frattini subgroup of ``self``. The Frattini - -". > > 1) Should we include symbols in docstrings? I.e. add

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Docs: Symbols and `self`

2015-09-25 Thread Eric Gourgoulhon
Le vendredi 25 septembre 2015 16:47:23 UTC+2, William a écrit : > > > > we may assume that most users understand LaTeX. > > This is a questionable assumption. Numerical most users of Sage are > undergraduates, and most undergraduates don't know about LaTeX. > > Yes you are right! The

[sage-devel] Re: Sagemath for Android

2015-09-25 Thread Dima Pasechnik
android 2.3.6 ? Isn't it upgradeable to version 4.1 or later? 2.3.6 is really outdated... On Friday, 25 September 2015 12:01:12 UTC-7, Matematica wrote: > > I use a Samsung mini 2 S6500( Android 2.3.6). I installed 1.0.1 > Sagemath and I get the error from the attached images. I installed

[sage-devel] Sagemath for Android

2015-09-25 Thread Matematica
I use a Samsung mini 2 S6500( Android 2.3.6). I installed 1.0.1 Sagemath and I get the error from the attached images. I installed Sagemath 0.9.1 and and I do not get the error from the attached images but when I use the *plot* function, the program closes. I like very much Sagemath. Please

[sage-devel] Re: Sagemath for Android

2015-09-25 Thread Matematica
Unfortunately, no updates. The phone is not rooted. vineri, 25 septembrie 2015, 22:25:29 UTC+3, Dima Pasechnik a scris: > > android 2.3.6 ? > Isn't it upgradeable to version 4.1 or later? > > 2.3.6 is really outdated... > > On Friday, 25 September 2015 12:01:12 UTC-7, Matematica wrote: >> >> I

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Docs: Symbols and `self`

2015-09-25 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Eric Gourgoulhon wrote: > > > Le vendredi 25 septembre 2015 16:47:23 UTC+2, William a écrit : >> >> >> > we may assume that most users understand LaTeX. >> >> This is a questionable assumption. Numerical most users of Sage are >>

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

2015-09-25 Thread Juan Luis Varona
I have downlodaded 6.9.rc0 and I my computer is now compiling with xcode 7 on osx 11.10. I will inform at the end of the process, Juan Luis > El 25 sept 2015, a las 17:12, John H Palmieri > escribió: > > Please try the latest Sage prerelease (6.9.rc0, available here:

Re: [sage-devel] Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

2015-09-25 Thread nirmal
I am looking forward to your update on how the process went. Thanks for your effort... On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 11:46:48 AM UTC-7, Juan Luis Varona wrote: > > I have downlodaded 6.9.rc0 and I my computer is now compiling with xcode 7 > on osx 11.10. > > I will inform at the end of the

Re: [sage-devel] how should the expression relation test be named?

2015-09-25 Thread Ralf Stephan
On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 8:22:53 PM UTC+2, Bill Page wrote: > > What answer should be expected when it is not possible to show that an > expression is zero? Would you expect that > >ex.is_zero() = not(ex.is_nonzero()) ? > Yes, for constant expressions (i.e. not containing

[sage-devel] How to force recompilation of a package after adding a patch

2015-09-25 Thread Clemens Heuberger
In #19280, I added a patch file to package mpir, the package itself and its version did not change. I can force manual recompilation of the package using sage -p (or sage -f). My question: how can I force recompilation of that package automatically? Say, if #19280 is merged in a beta release,

Re: [sage-devel] How to force recompilation of a package after adding a patch

2015-09-25 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 25/09/2015, at 18:54, Clemens Heuberger wrote: > > In #19280, I added a patch file to package mpir, the package itself and its > version did not change. > > I can force manual recompilation of the package using sage -p (or sage -f). > > My question: how can I

Re: [sage-devel] Re: About abbreviation in function names

2015-09-25 Thread Volker Braun
On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 5:36:01 AM UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > Google for "LLL" and its in the first 10 hits >> > Google is irrelevant here; e.g. google GL and it will not be helpful. Or > for QR Its one test that lets you assume that it is a widely known abbreviation, I never

[sage-devel] Re: libSingular functions require a ring parameter.

2015-09-25 Thread Samuel Lelievre
2015-09-25 08:13:45 UTC+2, Simon King: > > On 2015-09-25, Kwankyu Lee wrote: > > The ticket is waiting for a reviewer. Please! > > Which one? > http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/19084 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To

Re: [sage-devel] How to force recompilation of a package after adding a patch

2015-09-25 Thread Clemens Heuberger
Am 2015-09-25 um 09:11 schrieb Francois Bissey: > The trivial answer is the only way. But you don’t have to rename the tarball. Thank you. Out of curiosity: is there some magic involved which takes the tarball for 2.7.0 if the version ends on .p* and the checksum still matches or how does that

Re: [sage-devel] How to force recompilation of a package after adding a patch

2015-09-25 Thread Volker Braun
any trailing .p* found in package-version.txt is simply stripped off when looking for the tarball On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 9:34:11 AM UTC+2, Clemens Heuberger wrote: > > Am 2015-09-25 um 09:11 schrieb Francois Bissey: > > The trivial answer is the only way. But you don’t have to rename

Re: [sage-devel] How to force recompilation of a package after adding a patch

2015-09-25 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 25/09/2015, at 19:34, Clemens Heuberger wrote: > > Am 2015-09-25 um 09:11 schrieb Francois Bissey: >> The trivial answer is the only way. But you don’t have to rename the tarball. > > Thank you. > > Out of curiosity: is there some magic involved which takes the

Re: [sage-devel] What can we assume about our C compiler

2015-09-25 Thread Francesco Biscani
FWIW, here's my experience with various C++11 compilers: - GCC >= 4.8 is C++11 feature complete (core language, not necessarily library-wise) and quite usable (this includes MinGW); - clang >= 3.3 is C++11 feature complete and in general slightly better for standard-conformance and stability than

[sage-devel] Important info for package developers

2015-09-25 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
The Sage 6.9.rc0 release brings an important change for developers (including reviewers) of Sage packages. It applies to all new-style packages. **Whenever you change any package metadata, you need to run ./configure for your changes to be applied** Package metadata means: * the list of

[sage-devel] Re: libSingular functions require a ring parameter.

2015-09-25 Thread Simon King
On 2015-09-25, Kwankyu Lee wrote: > The ticket is waiting for a reviewer. Please! Which one? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [sage-devel] how should the expression relation test be named?

2015-09-25 Thread Bill Page
In Maple 'is' is part of the assume mechanism http://www.maplesoft.com/support/help/maple/view.aspx?path=assume and returns True, False or FAIL (if it cannot determine whether the property is always satisfied). Maple also has 'evalb' and 'testeq' with somewhat different semantics. Are you

[sage-devel] Docs: Symbols and `self`

2015-09-25 Thread Jori Mäntysalo
More on docstrings: "The Frattini sublattice `\Phi(L)` is the intersection - -" vs. "Returns the Frattini subgroup of ``self``. The Frattini - -". 1) Should we include symbols in docstrings? I.e. add \otimes to ordinal_product() of posets, as used in Enumerative combinatorics? 2) What

Re: [sage-devel] Using sage as a CGI

2015-09-25 Thread Amarjeet Kapoor
On Thursday, 30 January 2014 05:17:42 UTC+5:30, Pedro Fernando Morales-Almazan wrote: > > > Done! I set the HOME variable in the apache2 conf file and then gave the > permissions to /var/www. > > Thanks for the help Jeroen! > > I am trying to execute sage script through cgi script but unable

Re: [sage-devel] Re: About abbreviation in function names

2015-09-25 Thread Jori Mäntysalo
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015, Volker Braun wrote:  Google is irrelevant here; e.g. google GL and it will not be helpful. Or for QR Its one test that lets you assume that it is a widely known abbreviation, I never said that its the only one. As I mentioned before, another question that you can ask

[sage-devel] Nemo released

2015-09-25 Thread Samuel Lelièvre
On Sunday 2015-09-20, Bill Hart announced the release of Nemo, a computer algebra package for Julia. See the original announcement on the flint-devel mailing list: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/flint-devel/do0k67B5Was/discussion I'm taking the liberty to echo the announcement here (with

Re: [sage-devel] What can we assume about our C compiler

2015-09-25 Thread Clement Pernet
The Givaro-LinBox-fflas-ffpack ecosystem now requires C++11 support. I'm hitting this problem, while working on #17635, upgrading the spkgs of these 3 libraries. Therefore: > 1) Do we want to mandate c++11 support Y[X] N[ ] > > 2) if yes what c++11 features do we want? Feature complete [X] as

[sage-devel] [ANN] Nemo: A computer algebra package for Julia

2015-09-25 Thread 'Bill Hart' via sage-devel
Hi all, It is with pleasure that we release Nemo, a new computer algebra package we've been working on that uses the Julia programming language. The official announcement was made yesterday at the computer algebra minisymposium at the annual meeting of the German Mathematical Society (DMV) in

Re: [sage-devel] how should the expression relation test be named?

2015-09-25 Thread Ralf Stephan
On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 8:42:12 AM UTC+2, Bill Page wrote: > > In Maple 'is' is part of the assume mechanism > > http://www.maplesoft.com/support/help/maple/view.aspx?path=assume > Thanks. That's it indeed. and returns True, False or FAIL (if it cannot determine whether the >

[sage-devel] Re: About abbreviation in function names

2015-09-25 Thread Johan S . R . Nielsen
> I tried that in emacs as I had not heard of it and it sounded useful > -- but (in a python file) got an error message about requiring a > python process to be running. I'm just referring to (dabbrev-expand), bound to M-/ on a clean Emacs in most major modes. There's "dynamic expansion using