Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-18 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Sun, 18 Sep 2022, 01:44 Kwankyu Lee, wrote: > On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 6:30:05 PM UTC+9 dim...@gmail.com wrote: > > I'd rather focus the vote primarily on the move away from trac, ... > > > What would the move mean precisely? As there are two things to be done > > (1) The release

[sage-devel] Please help beta-test the Trac -> GitHub transition guide

2022-09-18 Thread Matthias Koeppe
https://github.com/sagemath/sage/wiki/migration-from-trac-to-Git**b#proposed-workflow-on-github-with-transition-guide-from-trac Writing this guide was motivated by - the proposed migration from Trac to GitHub (https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/30363), but independent from that, the transition

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-18 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 11:12:59 AM UTC-7 wst...@gmail.com wrote: > In my experience, the search built into GitHub is at least 10x (or > maybe 100x?) faster than our trac search, e.g., try searching > https://trac.sagemath.org/search versus > https://github.com/python/cpython/issues .

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-18 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 10:27 AM Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 10:14:26 AM UTC-7 Nils Bruin wrote: >> >> On Saturday, 17 September 2022 at 17:55:10 UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote: >>> >>> >>> The conversion of the Trac tickets to GitHub Issues/PRs only works in one >>>

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-18 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 11:12:59 AM UTC-7 wst...@gmail.com wrote: > > This is a 3 minute video demoing importing github repos to gitlab, > which emphasizes answers to a lot of natural frequent questions > (involving users, issue comments, labels, etc.): > >

[sage-devel] Re: Closing the old Sage wiki

2022-09-18 Thread Matthias Koeppe
typo: I have migrated the list of external packages *from* https://wiki.sagemath.org/SageMathExternalPackages to https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/31164 On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 11:07:28 AM UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote: > An update: > > I have migrated the list of external packages to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-18 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 10:14:26 AM UTC-7 Nils Bruin wrote: > On Saturday, 17 September 2022 at 17:55:10 UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote: > >> >> The conversion of the Trac tickets to GitHub Issues/PRs only works in one >> shot. Incrementally syncing updates from Trac to existing issues is

[sage-devel] Re: Closing the old Sage wiki

2022-09-18 Thread Matthias Koeppe
An update: I have migrated the list of external packages to https://wiki.sagemath.org/SageMathExternalPackages to the ticket https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/31164; in the process of this, I have (superficially) reviewed most of the entries and split them between pip-installable /

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-18 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 5:22:06 AM UTC-7 kcrisman wrote: > On a separate note, can someone explain to me why GL is preferable to >> those who prefer as open of tools as possible to GH? At first I was under >> the impression that GL was not a business and was largely self-hosted, but

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-18 Thread Nils Bruin
On Saturday, 17 September 2022 at 17:55:10 UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > The conversion of the Trac tickets to GitHub Issues/PRs only works in one > shot. Incrementally syncing updates from Trac to existing issues is not > possible. > Migration *to* GH is one thing, but as has been pointed

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-18 Thread John H Palmieri
Another way that trac is searchable is via the Google group sage-trac. Can we set up a similar group if we move to Github? On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 10:14:26 AM UTC-7 Nils Bruin wrote: > On Saturday, 17 September 2022 at 17:55:10 UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote: > >> >> The conversion of the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-18 Thread John H Palmieri
William, this is exactly why I search in the sage-trac Google group rather than on the trac website. The sage-trac group is also good for browsing to see recent activity. On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 11:12:59 AM UTC-7 wst...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 10:27 AM Matthias

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-18 Thread John H Palmieri
On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 2:55:34 PM UTC-7 dim...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Sun, 18 Sep 2022, 22:44 John H Palmieri, wrote: > >> William, this is exactly why I search in the sage-trac Google group >> rather than on the trac website. > > > it's looks easy to set up posting of

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-18 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Sun, 18 Sep 2022, 22:44 John H Palmieri, wrote: > William, this is exactly why I search in the sage-trac Google group rather > than on the trac website. it's looks easy to set up posting of issues/comments to a google group. The sage-trac group is also good for browsing to see recent