Re: [sage-devel] Re: ping - please cast you vote: VOTE: Follow NEP 29: Recommended Python version

2023-05-31 Thread David Roe
I will delete any messages to this thread in the next week. I encourage people who have not yet engaged to think about the issue and see if they have a compromise to suggest. David On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 5:24 PM G. M.-S. wrote: > > Hi all. > > I would like to ask for a moratorium of at least

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ping - please cast you vote: VOTE: Follow NEP 29: Recommended Python version

2023-05-31 Thread G. M.-S.
Hi all. I would like to ask for a moratorium of at least 1 month on this discussion, as it is leading nowhere. As a corollary, no changes on anything related to it for the time being. I would also like to ask if anybody could enforce this moratorium. And in addition I would like to take the

[sage-devel] Re: Ideals in LaurentPolynomialRing

2023-05-31 Thread enriqu...@gmail.com
I tried to compute associated_primes and it works, maybe it is related to the bug. El miércoles, 31 de mayo de 2023 a las 22:20:43 UTC+2, enriqu...@gmail.com escribió: > I guess it can be possible to get a smaller example and it may be possible > that this code has other problems. My goal is

Re: [sage-devel] ping - please cast you vote: VOTE: Follow NEP 29: Recommended Python version

2023-05-31 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 7:33 PM Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 11:00:58 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 6:23 PM Matthias Koeppe > wrote: > > As service for those who are missing the references: [...] > > > > - 5-year plan (appeared in > >

[sage-devel] Re: Ideals in LaurentPolynomialRing

2023-05-31 Thread enriqu...@gmail.com
I guess it can be possible to get a smaller example and it may be possible that this code has other problems. My goal is to compute the Fitting ideals of the "abelian" Alexander matrix of a finitely presented group. If you execute and hold the two last paragraphs, for me the execution time of

Re: [sage-devel] ping - please cast you vote: VOTE: Follow NEP 29: Recommended Python version

2023-05-31 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 11:00:58 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote: On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 6:23 PM Matthias Koeppe wrote: > As service for those who are missing the references: [...] > > - 5-year plan (appeared in https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/sVeu16vaEqo/m/D4pewORzAQAJ and

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ping - please cast you vote: VOTE: Follow NEP 29: Recommended Python version

2023-05-31 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 12:59:54 PM UTC-7 G. M.-S. wrote: Dima and Matthias, I completely agree with Nils. Could you (both of you) take a short vacation from SageMath, please? More globally, I propose to stop this discussion completely for a few days. +100 It's time for this

Re: [sage-devel] ping - please cast you vote: VOTE: Follow NEP 29: Recommended Python version

2023-05-31 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 6:23 PM Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > As service for those who are missing the references: > > - BFDL = Benevolent Dictator for Life, which was used as the humorous title > expressing the Python's community's trust in Guido van Rossum's leadership in > Python development.

Re: [sage-devel] ping - please cast you vote: VOTE: Follow NEP 29: Recommended Python version

2023-05-31 Thread Matthias Koeppe
As service for those who are missing the references: - BFDL = Benevolent Dictator for Life, which was used as the humorous title expressing the Python's community's trust in Guido van Rossum's leadership in Python development. Dima's use of the phrase "(not so B)FDL" insinuates that my work on

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ping - please cast you vote: VOTE: Follow NEP 29: Recommended Python version

2023-05-31 Thread kcrisman
Anyway, we need you. Both of you. +1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on

[sage-devel] Re: Ideals in LaurentPolynomialRing

2023-05-31 Thread Kiran Kedlaya
I wrote that code into the Sage library and it is supposed to be doing exactly what you proposed (clear denominators and do the computation in the polynomial ring). It is possible the regression was triggered by an update to Singular; it would indeed be helpful to identify a minimal example of

Re: [sage-devel] ping - please cast you vote: VOTE: Follow NEP 29: Recommended Python version

2023-05-31 Thread Kwankyu Lee
Besides, the 2nd option is just some ad hoc hogwash. Or do you propose to vote on appointing Matthias a (not so B)DFL ? No. I suggest him to formulate the practice as an objective checklist, so that voters know that rejecting the 1st option would not mean appointing DFL. -- You received

Re: [sage-devel] ping - please cast you vote: VOTE: Follow NEP 29: Recommended Python version

2023-05-31 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wed, 31 May 2023, 08:12 Kwankyu Lee, wrote: > I think the voting should be about the policy about when to drop old > python from sage support. There should be two candidates > > Candidate T: Tobias' proposal to adopt NEP 29. Tobias may summarize the > content of NEP 29. > Candidate M:

Re: [sage-devel] ping - please cast you vote: VOTE: Follow NEP 29: Recommended Python version

2023-05-31 Thread Kwankyu Lee
I think the voting should be about the policy about when to drop old python from sage support. There should be two candidates Candidate T: Tobias' proposal to adopt NEP 29. Tobias may summarize the content of NEP 29. Candidate M: Matthias' current practice. But this practice should be