Re: [sage-devel] Re: Proposal (redo): Make python_build (and its dependency pyproject_hooks) a standard package

2024-04-14 Thread 'tobia...@gmx.de' via sage-devel
-1 The usage of "setup.py sdist" or "setup.py bdist_wheel" only happens in certain edge cases (e.g. the almost un-documented `--enable-wheels` option) and in these cases it is no problem to require developers to run `pip install build` beforehand. So these last remaining instances of calling

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Proposal (redo): Make python_build (and its dependency pyproject_hooks) a standard package

2024-04-14 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 14 April 2024 19:14:51 BST, Matthias Koeppe wrote: >When I completed the NumFOCUS application yesterday, I had to go through >the past years of sage-devel posts to answer the new question "Where do you >host conversations about project development and governance (e.g. mailing >lists,

[sage-devel] Re: Proposal (redo): Make python_build (and its dependency pyproject_hooks) a standard package

2024-04-14 Thread Matthias Koeppe
When I completed the NumFOCUS application yesterday, I had to go through the past years of sage-devel posts to answer the new question "Where do you host conversations about project development and governance (e.g. mailing lists, forums, etc.), and how many participants do you have?" (see

[sage-devel] Re: Proposal (redo): Make python_build (and its dependency pyproject_hooks) a standard package

2024-04-14 Thread Matthias Koeppe
Thanks all. I consider this approved. PR https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/37300 is ready for review. On Tuesday, April 9, 2024 at 8:44:36 PM UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote: > We added python_build as an optional "pip" package (see >

Re: [sage-devel] (Re-)building an inclusive SageMath community. II: Recognizing and fighting abuse, bullying, disrespect

2024-04-14 Thread Matthias Koeppe
Hi Doris, Thanks for breaking the silence and sharing your thoughts! Matthias On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 1:58:55 AM UTC-7 Doris Behrendt wrote: allow me drop some thoughts and step into the silence: I am not a developer but >>only<< a mathematician, but am following this list for quite

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Application for NumFOCUS affiliation of SageMath

2024-04-14 Thread Matthias Koeppe
Thanks a lot, William. I've submitted our application to NumFOCUS today to meet the Apr 15 deadline. I'll keep everyone posted as soon as I hear anything back. On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 9:05:36 AM UTC-7 William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > I also strongly support this initiative for Sage to join

Re: [sage-devel] (Re-)building an inclusive SageMath community. II: Recognizing and fighting abuse, bullying, disrespect

2024-04-14 Thread G. M.-S.
I totally concur with Doris. Time permitting, I shall add some other thoughts of mine. Best, Guillermo On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 at 10:58, 'Doris Behrendt' via sage-devel < sage-devel@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > allow me drop some thoughts and step into the silence: > > I am not a

Re: [sage-devel] (Re-)building an inclusive SageMath community. II: Recognizing and fighting abuse, bullying, disrespect

2024-04-14 Thread 'Doris Behrendt' via sage-devel
Hi all, allow me drop some thoughts and step into the silence: I am not a developer but >>only<< a mathematician, but am following this list for quite some time. Mostly, I have only time to skim-read this list, but it is indeed an important source of information for me. I nearly never take

[sage-devel] Re: Question about change_ring

2024-04-14 Thread 'Martin R' via sage-devel
Ah, yes! There are constructions of parents where the second argument is not the base ring, and there are also constructions with higher arity. So, I guess that, to be on the safe side, a generic change_ring method would have to check `self.construction()[1] == self.base_ring()`. Martin On