Re: [sage-devel] Google Season of Docs – org application deadline April 2

2024-03-11 Thread Kwankyu Lee
... we have a gap between the reference manual (which is extensive but has no flow) and the thematic tutorials (which are written to tell a story but are just introductions). I agree. - It is very hard to find features and learn how to use them for a subject that I am not already

Re: [sage-devel] Google Season of Docs – org application deadline April 2

2024-03-11 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 11 March 2024 05:39:36 GMT, John H Palmieri wrote: >Dima's suggestion is appealing, and somewhat along those lines, I like the >idea changing Sage to use some standard documentation style >(https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/31044). If the program provides a >technical writer,

Re: [sage-devel] Google Season of Docs – org application deadline April 2

2024-03-10 Thread John H Palmieri
Dima's suggestion is appealing, and somewhat along those lines, I like the idea changing Sage to use some standard documentation style (https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/31044). If the program provides a technical writer, though, those may not be suitable goals. A quick glance at least

Re: [sage-devel] Google Season of Docs – org application deadline April 2

2024-03-10 Thread David Roe
I think the main question is who is willing to take the lead on writing and submitting applications (before April 2). I don't have enough time in the next three weeks to do any writing, but I am willing to help brainstorm what form the proposal(s) should take and help edit proposals if someone

Re: [sage-devel] Google Season of Docs – org application deadline April 2

2024-03-10 Thread Matthias Koeppe
Yes, we could prepare several proposals for separate projects. One can see in the lists of past funded projects that some organizations have received funding for two simultaneous projects. On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 8:38:13 AM UTC-7 John Cremona wrote: > Should there not be separate projects

Re: [sage-devel] Google Season of Docs – org application deadline April 2

2024-03-10 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Not sure whether switching Sage to standard Sphinx/Python docbuilding tools falls within the remit of the Season of Docs, but it's surely a worthwhile project - in particular if we can get funds for it. On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 3:03 PM David Roe wrote: > I think this would be good for Sage. I

Re: [sage-devel] Google Season of Docs – org application deadline April 2

2024-03-10 Thread John Cremona
Should there not be separate projects for documenting (1) building and installing Sage; (2) using Sage (perhaps with some subject-specific tutorials, some of which exist but might be worth updating) and (3) documenting individual Sage functions and methods. These require different expertise, for

Re: [sage-devel] Google Season of Docs – org application deadline April 2

2024-03-10 Thread David Roe
I think this would be good for Sage. I think there are several decisions to be made: * What are our most pressing documentation needs? Personally, I think we have a gap between the reference manual (which is extensive but has no flow) and the thematic tutorials (which are written to tell a story

[sage-devel] Google Season of Docs – org application deadline April 2

2024-03-09 Thread Matthias Koeppe
SageMath could benefit from hiring a technical writer for a project to improve the Sage documentation. Google Season of Docs is a program that supports such projects. Some key facts: - total project budget $5,000 - $15,000 USD (via OpenCollective) -