I can try to build a Sage binary on Fedora 3 if you wish
but I'm not optimistic. I know that my Fedora 5 could not
build Sage because the compiler was too old.
The compiler wasn't too old, it was *borken*, i.e. internal compiler
error. IIRC it was some gcc 4.1.0 and as well all know a .0
On May 3, 7:50 pm, root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
Ok. I'll try a fedora 3 build.
Sage failed to build in fedora 3
The log is at
http://daly.axiom-developer.org/install.log
Tim
Hi Tim,
R fails to build since it picks up the system's readline. We have some
similar issue with R
On May 2, 3:19 am, David Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looks good to me. I think Python is actually in the top 5 languages
now, isn't it?
just for completeness, released today: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/10065
- Readers' Choice Awards 2008 / Favorite Scripting Language: Python
On May 1, 2008, at 5:49 PM, William Stein wrote:
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Robert Bradshaw
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 1, 2008, at 2:51 PM, William Stein wrote:
Hi,
I wrote a new version of my ISSAC talk abstract. What do you think:
Dear William,
On May 2, 12:23 am, Bill Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The previous abstract (the second one?, definitely not the first)
seemed like a good balance to me: What is Sage? What can it do?
I agree.
The second abstract contains the message (among other things):
1. If you have a
Dear William,
I am sorry about my previous post, since it was out-dated. My comment
did only refer to message number 25 in this thread and to the abstract
version at http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/was/tmp/abstract.pdf
Now, we have
Harald Schilly wrote:
On May 2, 3:19 am, David Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Looks good to me. I think Python is actually in the top 5 languages
now, isn't it?
just for completeness, released today:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/10065
- Readers' Choice Awards 2008 /
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 5:13 AM, Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the idea to use a Live CD is a very good one. It is good when
people have the opportunity to try sage right on the spot.
Is there anyone in the list that can share binaries of Sage 3.x for
Fedora Core 3 (a higher FC
On May 2, 2:02 pm, Alfredo Portes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 5:13 AM, Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the idea to use a Live CD is a very good one. It is good when
people have the opportunity to try sage right on the spot.
Is there anyone in the list
Alfredo,
I can try to build a Sage binary on Fedora 3 if you wish
but I'm not optimistic. I know that my Fedora 5 could not
build Sage because the compiler was too old. Fedora 3
likely has the same issue.
Tim
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On May 2, 9:18 pm, root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alfredo,
Hi Tim,
I can try to build a Sage binary on Fedora 3 if you wish
but I'm not optimistic. I know that my Fedora 5 could not
build Sage because the compiler was too old.
The compiler wasn't too old, it was *borken*, i.e. internal
I can try to build a Sage binary on Fedora 3 if you wish
but I'm not optimistic. I know that my Fedora 5 could not
build Sage because the compiler was too old.
The compiler wasn't too old, it was *borken*, i.e. internal compiler
error. IIRC it was some gcc 4.1.0 and as well all know a .0
Very good!
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:51 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I wrote a new version of my ISSAC talk abstract. What do you think:
http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/was/tmp/abstract.pdf
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Associate Professor of Mathematics
University of
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:51 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I wrote a new version of my ISSAC talk abstract. What do you think:
http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/was/tmp/abstract.pdf
This is abstract number 3, right? I hope I got that right.
Well, ah ... -1. I thought
I liked the abstract2 version better. It had a better overview of the
project :)
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In the past I have had 2 distributions that I gave away at ISSAC.
The first was my Rosetta collection (about 100 open source systems
collected onto CDs). Some of these I eventually put on the ISSAC CD
itself (I constructed the CD for 2 years). It was distributed by ACM.
The second was an Axiom
On May 1, 2008, at 2:51 PM, William Stein wrote:
Hi,
I wrote a new version of my ISSAC talk abstract. What do you think:
http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/was/tmp/abstract.pdf
I think the previous abstract (version 2) is much better--this
abstract seems more a reaction to the recent
You might consider designating a particular snapshot (say, 3.0)
that you plan to package and build onto CDs. If they use Alfredo
Portes's Doyen Live CD then people can just boot up their laptops
and have Sage running live immediately.
In fact, If you used the Live CD to give your talk
Though I've never been to ISSAC (someone who has been, correct me if
I'm wrong), I get the impression that many of the people there would
have little C programs and scripts that they use/develop for
research. If this is the case then I think it would be worthwhile
expanding on the
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Robert Bradshaw
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 1, 2008, at 2:51 PM, William Stein wrote:
Hi,
I wrote a new version of my ISSAC talk abstract. What do you think:
http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/was/tmp/abstract.pdf
I think the previous
I'm not pissed off about it in fact I think it is a great introduction
to Sage. I particularly like the last line. Great job!
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:49 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Robert Bradshaw
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 1,
Looks good to me. I think Python is actually in the top 5 languages
now, isn't it?
Maybe Perl is 5 and Python is 6?
In any case, my only suggestion is to emphasize the point that *you*
needed an alternative
to the M's by pointing out somehow that (a) the others are propritary
and therefore not
Let me know what you think.It will probably piss off everybody, but
I guarantee you it is the most honest thing I've ever written about Sage.
I like it a lot -- but maybe I'm the choir. :)
I can only think of one thing I'd like to see added: a short list
highlighting a few of the
William Stein wrote:
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Robert Bradshaw
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 1, 2008, at 2:51 PM, William Stein wrote:
Hi,
I wrote a new version of my ISSAC talk abstract. What do you think:
http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/was/tmp/abstract.pdf
On Thu, 01 May 2008 at 05:49PM -0700, William Stein wrote:
Thanks for your patience with my experiments. Please see abstract number 3:
http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/was/tmp/abstract3.pdf
Let me know what you think.It will probably piss off everybody, but
I guarantee you it
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:19 PM, David Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looks good to me. I think Python is actually in the top 5 languages
now, isn't it?
Maybe Perl is 5 and Python is 6?
In the latest TIOBE ranking it is #7:
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:57 AM, William Stein wrote:
Hi,
I'm giving a plenary talk at ISSAC in Linz, Austria this summer. I'm
supposed
to write a 2-page abstract/paper for the proceedings. I just wrote
something:
http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/was/tmp/abstract.pdf
BTW, asking for contributors is the surest way to get zero
contributors. You should invite people to try Sage (online) and to
download it so it runs faster.
Also, I thought of another great reason why they would like Sage.
Many of these people write their own libraries. Then you have to
write
On Apr 29, 11:57 pm, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm giving a plenary talk at ISSAC in Linz, Austria this summer. I'm supposed
to write a 2-page abstract/paper for the proceedings. I just wrote
something:
http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/was/tmp/abstract.pdf
I think what
I would be interested in real word use cases, which demonstrate, why
such a system is needed.
E.g., I think Simon king did some cool
things involving at least Singular, GAP, Cython...
On 30 Apr., 12:00, Roman Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW, asking for contributors is the surest way to get
I like it but perhaps I am prejudiced:-) IMHO, SAGE would be dead (or at least
a very lonely research project) if it weren't for the fact that it is
free and open source.
But also, design is an important factor.
Some ideas (I hesitate to call them suggestions since it seems fine as is):
1.
I agree somewhat with others here that you might want to make this a
little more 'technical'. I would start with your sentence Sage
itself is... - describe what it is first, then some of its
capabilities and technical advantages. As far as open-source and
free, I think the best thing is to
Dear Michael,
On Apr 30, 12:15 pm, Michael Brickenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would be interested in real word use cases, which demonstrate, why
such a system is needed.
E.g., I think Simon king did some cool
things involving at least Singular, GAP, Cython...
Do you call the
Hi,
On Apr 30, 12:26 pm, David Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3. A specific example could be mentioned which smoothly integrates several
systems. As Michael B suggests, a group invariant computation in a number
field mixes GAP (for groups), Pari for the number field (is this correct?),
and
Hi Simon!
Do you call the computation of cohomology rings of finite p-groups a
real world application??
Sorry, I used the wrong terms.
I meant something like: nothing synthetic, just composing a few
features,
but demonstrating, how SAGE can be used to compute an
actual research problem.
I was
By the way, for me it matters most
that Python is a *beautiful* language.
Michael
On 30 Apr., 14:02, Michael Brickenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Simon! Do you call the computation of cohomology rings of finite p-groups
a
real world application??
Sorry, I used the wrong terms.
I
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Michael,
On Apr 30, 12:15 pm, Michael Brickenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would be interested in real word use cases, which demonstrate, why
such a system is needed.
E.g., I think Simon king did some
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Bill Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:57 AM, William Stein wrote:
Hi,
I'm giving a plenary talk at ISSAC in Linz, Austria this summer. I'm
supposed
to write a 2-page abstract/paper for the proceedings. I just wrote
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Roman Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 29, 11:57 pm, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm giving a plenary talk at ISSAC in Linz, Austria this summer. I'm
supposed
to write a 2-page abstract/paper for the proceedings. I just wrote
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 3:26 AM, David Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I like it but perhaps I am prejudiced:-) IMHO, SAGE would be dead (or at
least
a very lonely research project) if it weren't for the fact that it is
free and open source.
Sage would certainly not be dead even if I
You seem to be anti-open source in your own work,
which is what *really* matters to you. It's my understanding
that you've written a very interesting library in computer
algebra and it is closed source. Correct me if I'm wrong,
but I have the impression you generally don't see the value
Dear Martin, dear William,
On Apr 30, 4:39 pm, Martin Albrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
If I
understood the e-mail correctly then Roman implied that at *this particular
meeting* asking for contributors might be perceived as annoying? Thus he
shared his opinion to help us to make the
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:39 AM, Martin Albrecht
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You seem to be anti-open source in your own work,
which is what *really* matters to you. It's my understanding
that you've written a very interesting library in computer
algebra and it is closed source.
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:53 AM, William Stein wrote:
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Bill Page wrote:
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:57 AM, William Stein wrote:
I'm giving a plenary talk at ISSAC in Linz, Austria this summer. I'm
supposed
to write a 2-page
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Bill Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Bill,
Thanks for elaborating and clarifying your thoughts.
I've posted a new version of the abstract here:
http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/was/tmp/abstract2.pdf
You guys might dislike it even more. We'll see :-)
Dear William,
in line 3, it should be could, not ncould.
IMO, you should mention Cython. In fact, i started to use Sage mainly
because Cython made it possible to easily use the C-programs of my
boss. Otherwise i would have had tried to do everything in Singular.
But i guess you will mention
On Apr 30, 8:09 am, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The open source philosophy is the entire reason for the
existence of Sage.
That may be true, but it won't sell. There have been other open
source systems before Sage (Axiom, Maxima, ...) and very good
specialized systems (Singular,
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