Re: [sage-devel] let's make FriCAS optional

2017-09-28 Thread mmarco
Indeed. This last GSoC there was some work to include the Rubi integrator in sympy. That could allow to compute a larger set of integrals (although I have read that it can be kind of slow). It would be a good idea to consider which one of these options we should call by default in each case.

Re: [sage-devel] let's make FriCAS optional

2017-09-28 Thread kcrisman
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 1:21:23 PM UTC-4, rjf wrote: > > To the extent that Macsyma/Maximaand Scratchpad/Axiom/Fricas have > overlapping capabilities, it would be interesting to have a competent > assessment as to > which of them should be used by Sage for some functionalities.

Re: [sage-devel] let's make FriCAS optional

2017-09-27 Thread Volker Braun
M-x sage-mode On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 8:03:46 PM UTC+2, Martin R wrote: > > I vote for making sage part of emacs, actually. Well, in fact, it *is* > part of emacs. > > Martin > > Am Mittwoch, 27. September 2017 19:46:09 UTC+2 schrieb John H Palmieri: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday,

Re: [sage-devel] let's make FriCAS optional

2017-09-27 Thread 'Martin R' via sage-devel
So, apart from the fact that emacs is the only thing a computer should ever run, here is something that might be useful, related to #12589. Of course, the three-liner below is just a proof of concept, but could easily be expanded into something that works reliably. Martin """ sage: var('q')

Re: [sage-devel] let's make FriCAS optional

2017-09-27 Thread 'Martin R' via sage-devel
I vote for making sage part of emacs, actually. Well, in fact, it *is* part of emacs. Martin Am Mittwoch, 27. September 2017 19:46:09 UTC+2 schrieb John H Palmieri: > > > > On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 10:40:36 AM UTC-7, Jeroen Demeyer > wrote: >> >> On 2017-09-27 16:10, Vincent

Re: [sage-devel] let's make FriCAS optional

2017-09-27 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 10:40:36 AM UTC-7, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 2017-09-27 16:10, Vincent Delecroix wrote: > > Not sufficient: the package has to be useful for Sage and used in > > Sage... emacs is unlikely to become an optional package even if it > > satisfies the above

Re: [sage-devel] let's make FriCAS optional

2017-09-27 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2017-09-27 16:10, Vincent Delecroix wrote: Not sufficient: the package has to be useful for Sage and used in Sage... emacs is unlikely to become an optional package even if it satisfies the above conditions. That's why I added "as opposed to experimental" :-) emacs shouldn't be

Re: [sage-devel] let's make FriCAS optional

2017-09-27 Thread rjf
To the extent that Macsyma/Maximaand Scratchpad/Axiom/Fricas have overlapping capabilities, it would be interesting to have a competent assessment as to which of them should be used by Sage for some functionalities. RJF On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 7:12:19 AM UTC-7, vdelecroix

Re: [sage-devel] let's make FriCAS optional

2017-09-27 Thread Vincent Delecroix
On 27/09/2017 15:03, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2017-09-27 09:11, Vincent Delecroix wrote: If FriCAS is * well maintained * does build on various architectures and systems (32bits/64 bits, GNULinux/cygwin/OSX) Indeed. This is exactly the necessary and sufficient condition for a package to be

Re: [sage-devel] let's make FriCAS optional

2017-09-27 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2017-09-27 09:11, Vincent Delecroix wrote: If FriCAS is * well maintained * does build on various architectures and systems (32bits/64 bits, GNULinux/cygwin/OSX) Indeed. This is exactly the necessary and sufficient condition for a package to be optional (as opposed to experimental). --

Re: [sage-devel] let's make FriCAS optional

2017-09-27 Thread Vincent Delecroix
If FriCAS is * well maintained * does build on various architectures and systems (32bits/64 bits, GNULinux/cygwin/OSX) (which I believe it is) then of course +1 for its inclusion as optional package. On 26/09/2017 16:06, 'Martin R' via sage-devel wrote: Dear all, I would like to propose

Re: [sage-devel] let's make FriCAS optional

2017-09-26 Thread David Joyner
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:06 AM, 'Martin R' via sage-devel wrote: > Dear all, > > I would like to propose to make the package FriCAS optional. FriCAS > provides some functionality which is otherwise either mostly missing (e.g., > guessing formulas, lazy

[sage-devel] let's make FriCAS optional

2017-09-26 Thread 'Martin R' via sage-devel
Dear all, I would like to propose to make the package FriCAS optional. FriCAS provides some functionality which is otherwise either mostly missing (e.g., guessing formulas, lazy powerseries), or not as complete as might be desirable (e.g., symbolic integration, solving differential