Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about make dependencies

2023-11-17 Thread G. M.-S.
Thanks for sharing this witty article, Karl-Dieter. Disclaimer: My knowledge of English is very limited. Guillermo On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 at 16:36, kcrisman wrote: > To John C's point, and perhaps with the humor that John P intended: > >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about make dependencies

2023-11-17 Thread G. M.-S.
Just to say that while I try to build SagMath on macOS, for everyday use I rely on Marc's app, which works perfectly. And it is most useful for all macOS users I know, as installation is straightforward and it works "out of the box". In fact, I wish the same was true for Windows PCs… Guillermo

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about make dependencies

2023-11-16 Thread kcrisman
To John C's point, and perhaps with the humor that John P intended: https://daily.jstor.org/in-which-we-science-why-nouns-become-verbs-because-language/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about make dependencies

2023-11-15 Thread John Cremona
Please all cool it down. John On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 at 04:59, John H Palmieri wrote: > If I respond using "verb" as a verb, do you really think I'm seriously > criticizing you about using "vendor" as a verb? You're telling me to get a > life? Get a sense of humor. > > On Tuesday, November 14,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about make dependencies

2023-11-14 Thread John H Palmieri
If I respond using "verb" as a verb, do you really think I'm seriously criticizing you about using "vendor" as a verb? You're telling me to get a life? Get a sense of humor. On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 3:45:07 PM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > I have not invented the verb "to vendor", I

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about make dependencies

2023-11-14 Thread Dima Pasechnik
I'm only worried that I know more English words than native speakers... On Tue, 14 Nov 2023, 23:56 Michael Orlitzky, wrote: > On 2023-11-14 23:44:50, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > I have not invented the verb "to vendor" > > Don't worry, you are in good company: > >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about make dependencies

2023-11-14 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2023-11-14 23:44:50, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > I have not invented the verb "to vendor" Don't worry, you are in good company: https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1993/01/25 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about make dependencies

2023-11-14 Thread Dima Pasechnik
I have not invented the verb "to vendor", I merely picked it up from Python docs and PEPs, e.g. https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0518/#configparser (this one was written by native English speakers, I think) You seem to prefer to pick on my supposedly broken English, rather than read Python

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about make dependencies

2023-11-14 Thread John H Palmieri
Not all Americans like to verb things so profligately. On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 1:15:07 PM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > On Tue, 14 Nov 2023, 20:39 Matthias Koeppe, wrote: > >> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> >> On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about make dependencies

2023-11-14 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Tue, 14 Nov 2023, 20:39 Matthias Koeppe, wrote: > On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 7:22 PM Marc Culler wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 11:58 AM Dima Pasechnik > wrote: > >> I imagine it might be an artifact of the design

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about make dependencies

2023-11-14 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote: On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 7:22 PM Marc Culler wrote: > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 11:58 AM Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> I imagine it might be an artifact of the design of Sage on Mac app >> Marc is releasing: >> vendor

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about make dependencies

2023-11-14 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 7:22 PM Marc Culler wrote: > > I was hesitant to send that message because I didn't want to have to go > through this again. > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 11:58 AM Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> >> > Does ./configure say why the system copy is unsuitable? > > > There is no

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about make dependencies

2023-11-14 Thread Marc Culler
Thanks, Matthias. I will try to remember to check the timestamps next time. - Marc On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 12:56 PM Matthias Koeppe wrote: > I don't think this happens in normal development. When this happens in > your setup, check the mtime of the timestamps in >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about make dependencies

2023-11-14 Thread Marc Culler
I was hesitant to send that message because I didn't want to have to go through this again. On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 11:58 AM Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > Does ./configure say why the system copy is unsuitable? > There is no system copy. I imagine it might be an artifact of the design of Sage on

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about make dependencies

2023-11-14 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 5:50 PM Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On Tue, 2023-11-14 at 09:42 -0800, Marc Culler wrote: > > Of course I meant that I have to wait for everything that *depends on* gmp > > to be recompiled. Also, this happens when there is nothing wrong with the > > gmp build. The make

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about make dependencies

2023-11-14 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Tue, 2023-11-14 at 09:42 -0800, Marc Culler wrote: > Of course I meant that I have to wait for everything that *depends on* gmp > to be recompiled. Also, this happens when there is nothing wrong with the > gmp build. The make system decides that it is out of date even though the > build