On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:52:51 +0100
Rene Rebe rene at exactcode.de wrote:
Have you counted thru how many developers are willing to rewrite
their code (backends, frontends, etc.) for this arbitrarily defined SANE
2 thing ?
My votes still are: preferably compatibly change SANE 1 or adopt
Hi,
On 28.03.2008, at 09:16, Alessandro Zummo wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:52:51 +0100
Rene Rebe rene at exactcode.de wrote:
Have you counted thru how many developers are willing to rewrite
their code (backends, frontends, etc.) for this arbitrarily defined
SANE
2 thing ?
My votes
Hello,
On Mar 27 08:16 m. allan noah wrote (shortened):
can you get the original poster to put it back to stock, and get a
debug log like this:
SANE_DEBUG_SANEI_SCSI=5 SANE_DEBUG_HP=128 scanimage -L
Done.
See
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=350688#c17
or the debug output
===
== Neuer Eintrag
===
---
-- Formular: 'adddev'
---
1. Your email address:
'mail at test.ws'
2. Manufacturer (e.g.
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:22 PM, stef stef.dev at free.fr wrote:
Hello,
before any work can start on SANE 2, the current proposal has to be
completed.
and before we can complete it, we must acknowlege that it has not been
touched in 5 years, and many of its contributors are
and this fix has been committed to cvs.
allan
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Johannes Meixner jsmeix at suse.de wrote:
Hello,
On Mar 27 08:16 m. allan noah wrote (shortened):
can you get the original poster to put it back to stock, and get a
debug log like this:
Hi,
On 28.03.2008, at 11:52, Alessandro Zummo wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:34:22 +0100
Rene Rebe rene at exactcode.de wrote:
I believe that Stef has made very clear its intentions
to go toward SANE 2. TWAIn for linux would be a complete
rewrite of everything, and compatible changes to
Peter Kirchgessner peter at kirchgessner.net wrote:
I have no problem if the usleep(1000) is added. If it helps, it's
ok. For a typical scan about 200 inquiries are done. So setting up the
scanner is slowed down by 0.2 seconds in total. That is far less than
the scan will need.
I don't know
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Jim Meyering jim at meyering.net wrote:
Peter Kirchgessner peter at kirchgessner.net wrote:
I have no problem if the usleep(1000) is added. If it helps, it's
ok. For a typical scan about 200 inquiries are done. So setting up the
scanner is slowed down by
m. allan noah kitno455 at gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Jim Meyering jim at meyering.net wrote:
Peter Kirchgessner peter at kirchgessner.net wrote:
I have no problem if the usleep(1000) is added. If it helps, it's
ok. For a typical scan about 200 inquiries are done. So
Hi Allan,
On 28.03.2008, at 14:46, m. allan noah wrote:
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:22 PM, stef stef.dev at free.fr wrote:
Hello,
before any work can start on SANE 2, the current proposal
has to be completed.
and before we can complete it, we must acknowlege that it has not
Hello
My friend has a Ubuntu 7.10 system on an older machine, which seems
to work fine.
I installed the drivers as suggested at
http://www.avasys.jp/english/linux_e/dl_scan.html
http://www.avasys.jp/english/linux_e/dl_scan.html
and all is not well.
It works fine at 300 dpi but 1200
I can not believe it.
There is someone who says I will start working on SANE2 and you have
nothing better to do than to tell him it is better not to do it.
This is called progress. Really good.
Best regards
Oliver
Am Freitag, den 28.03.2008, 08:52 +0100 schrieb Rene Rebe:
Have you counted
m. allan noah kitno455 at gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
- scanner's button handling
this is overly complicated, and should be re-examined.
For that and other reasons, I think it'd really be better to have the
frontends be entirely isolated from the backends, as I explained
already.
This
Hi,
On 28.03.2008, at 18:40, Oliver Rauch wrote:
I can not believe it.
There is someone who says I will start working on SANE2 and you have
nothing better to do than to tell him it is better not to do it.
I did not tell him not to, but expressed my disbelieve in the whole
rewrite
Hi,
On 28.03.2008, at 18:40, Julien BLACHE wrote:
m. allan noah kitno455 at gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
- scanner's button handling
this is overly complicated, and should be re-examined.
For that and other reasons, I think it'd really be better to have the
frontends be entirely
Hi,
This would provide a central point (saned) handling the hardware
entirely, it can chat with other things (HAL, anything over D-Bus, you
name it) and we totally avoid the current side effects we have today.
Do you mean having some cups for scanner ?
Actually, i wish not, because users
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:49:17 +0100
Rene Rebe rene at exactcode.de wrote:
Right now the only thing I miss are marks for infra-red frames, and
maybe
a ability to pass duplex data without buffering the rear side, which
becomes
even more of a problem with the next generation, higher end
?tienne Bersac bersace03 at gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Do you mean having some cups for scanner ?
Something much more simple than CUPS, but yeah, basically.
Actually, i wish not, because users don't want another service. HAL can
launch addon per device which allow to launch nothing if no scanner
Rene Rebe rene at exactcode.de wrote:
Hi,
Sounds a bit Data Source Manager like-ish (in TWAIN terms), definetly
and idea for desktops.
Yes. From what you told about TWAIN the other day, I think I like the
architecture. I don't know enough about TWAIN to tell for sure,
though.
Oh, I forgot
On 28.03.2008, at 19:02, Alessandro Zummo wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:49:17 +0100
Rene Rebe rene at exactcode.de wrote:
Right now the only thing I miss are marks for infra-red frames, and
maybe
a ability to pass duplex data without buffering the rear side, which
becomes
even more of a
Hi,
On 28.03.2008, at 19:09, Julien BLACHE wrote:
?tienne Bersac bersace03 at gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Do you mean having some cups for scanner ?
Something much more simple than CUPS, but yeah, basically.
Actually, i wish not, because users don't want another service. HAL
can
launch
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Rene Rebe rene at exactcode.de wrote:
On 28.03.2008, at 19:02, Alessandro Zummo wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:49:17 +0100
Rene Rebe rene at exactcode.de wrote:
Right now the only thing I miss are marks for infra-red frames, and
maybe
a
Hi,
On 28.03.2008, at 19:13, Julien BLACHE wrote:
Rene Rebe rene at exactcode.de wrote:
Hi,
Sounds a bit Data Source Manager like-ish (in TWAIN terms), definetly
and idea for desktops.
Yes. From what you told about TWAIN the other day, I think I like the
architecture. I don't know
the sane project does not provide this driver. i would suggest that
you ask the maker.
allan
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Doug Robinson dkrr at telus.net wrote:
Hello
My friend has a Ubuntu 7.10 system on an older machine, which seems
to work fine.
I installed the drivers as
On 28.03.2008, at 19:19, m. allan noah wrote:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Rene Rebe rene at exactcode.de wrote:
On 28.03.2008, at 19:02, Alessandro Zummo wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:49:17 +0100
Rene Rebe rene at exactcode.de wrote:
Right now the only thing I miss are marks for
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Rene Rebe rene at exactcode.de wrote:
On 28.03.2008, at 19:19, m. allan noah wrote:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Rene Rebe rene at exactcode.de wrote:
On 28.03.2008, at 19:02, Alessandro Zummo wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:49:17 +0100
Hi,
Could you PLEASE stop thinking HAL all the time?
Could you please stop taking HAL as an offense all the time ?
By talking about HAL, i mean do not impose another system service and
let external project do it on top of SANE, be it either a DBus daemon, a
HAL addon, a regular daemon, etc.
On 28.03.2008, at 19:34, m. allan noah wrote:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Rene Rebe rene at exactcode.de wrote:
On 28.03.2008, at 19:19, m. allan noah wrote:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Rene Rebe rene at exactcode.de
wrote:
On 28.03.2008, at 19:02, Alessandro Zummo wrote:
Rene Rebe rene at exactcode.de wrote:
The TWAIN standard is open, and here is the link:
http://twain.org/docs/TWAIN19.pdf
Back in the days, ISTR it wasn't open. I'll try to find some time to
go through it.
Actually the capabilities are even quite similar.
That's what makes the most sense
?tienne Bersac bersace03 at gmail.com wrote:
By talking about HAL, i mean do not impose another system service and
let external project do it on top of SANE, be it either a DBus daemon, a
HAL addon, a regular daemon, etc.
Bar telling no new service please, HAL can launch things as needed.
On 3/28/08, Julien BLACHE jb at jblache.org wrote:
?tienne Bersac bersace03 at gmail.com wrote:
By talking about HAL, i mean do not impose another system service and
let external project do it on top of SANE, be it either a DBus daemon, a
HAL addon, a regular daemon, etc.
Bar telling
Hello,
it seems that the real question is what do we want for SANE future ?
1 - the current situation is perfectly fine, don't need to change a
thing.
2 - only a couple of new image formats are needed, simply evolve a few
things.
3 - put together the
stef stef.dev at free.fr wrote:
Hi,
I'm rather inclined to the 3 goal, since I feel there are
quite a few things to do to improve SANE. Having a new standard
doesn't mean SANE 1 stops to exist. Both can coexist.
Do you really think there is the needed manpower to co-maintain 2
versions
Le Friday 28 March 2008 22:05:24 Julien BLACHE, vous avez ?crit?:
stef stef.dev at free.fr wrote:
Hi,
I'm rather inclined to the 3 goal, since I feel there are
quite a few things to do to improve SANE. Having a new standard
doesn't mean SANE 1 stops to exist. Both can coexist.
Note also one thing about the SANE2 discussion: Currently I am working
on getting SANE1 into the LSB (I posted already about this some months
ago and no one answered). This will help us that it is much easier for
scanner manufacturers to ship drivers with their scanners. They can
simply build
stef stef.dev at free.fr wrote:
Hi,
Your mails are horribly formatted, please wrap your lines at 72
characters. Thanks!
indeed we are only a few people. But things can be done so
that it isn't hard to achieve.
However, does it mean you are akin to keep things as they are ? which
is
Till Kamppeter till.kamppeter at gmail.com wrote:
ago and no one answered). This will help us that it is much easier for
scanner manufacturers to ship drivers with their scanners. They can
This is all but a good thing. Currently, binary backends provided by
the manufacturers are nothing more
On Friday 28 March 2008, Julien BLACHE wrote:
I'm rather inclined to the 3 goal, since I feel there are
quite a few things to do to improve SANE. Having a new standard
doesn't mean SANE 1 stops to exist. Both can coexist.
Do you really think there is the needed manpower to co-maintain
39 matches
Mail list logo
