Re: [Servercert-wg] SC-XXX: Modify Subscriber Agreement and Terms of Use

2023-08-16 Thread Ben Wilson via Servercert-wg
Hi Clint, Basically, that's about it, except by removing the separate "Terms of Use" and collapsing that concept into "Subscriber Agreement" there are places where "agreeing" and "legally binding" may get watered down. "Agree" is replaced with "accept" in some places, and in two places "legally

Re: [Servercert-wg] SC-XXX: Modify Subscriber Agreement and Terms of Use

2023-08-16 Thread Clint Wilson via Servercert-wg
Hi Ben, As I understand it the goal of these changes is just to simplify the terms used in the BRs — and, as has been brought up separately, potentially other CA/BF Final Guidelines — in order to enable collapsing their use of “Terms of Use” into the concept of the “Subscriber Agreement”. Is

Re: [Servercert-wg] [EXTERNAL] SC-XXX: Modify Subscriber Agreement and Terms of Use

2023-08-16 Thread Tim Hollebeek via Servercert-wg
I agree with Bruce, and I think we might also want to synchronize the effective dates. Many customers have a variety of kinds of certificates included in the same contract, and having two different sets of terminology for the same legal document involved in the same contract would be really