Re: [Telepathy] Empathy port to ARM architecture (Ubuntu Touch)?

2015-09-22 Thread Peter Bittner
Is it possible to use most of Empathy's logic, and plugin-in a QML-powered user interface on it? A bit like the Fahrplan developers did it at https://github.com/smurfy/fahrplan/tree/master/src/gui? (I understand that the difference technology-wise may be larger than in that project.) If

Re: [Telepathy] Empathy port to ARM architecture (Ubuntu Touch)?

2015-09-22 Thread Jonathan Frederickson
On 9/22/15 2:11 PM, Peter Bittner wrote: > This argument is true for SIP and XMPP, right? As (not yet fully) > discussed in another thread on this list today [1], we should probably > reach out for a scenario with hosting our own SIP+XMPP servers. Is > there any chance that SIP and/or XMPP are

Re: [Telepathy] Empathy port to ARM architecture (Ubuntu Touch)?

2015-09-22 Thread Olivier Crête
Hi, Empathy is the client for GNOME, so it's really focused on the GNOME desktop. The fact that the Ubuntu people use it is mostly historical. If you want to write a new IM client, you should just start from scratch based on either Telepathy or even better, just on libpurple directly. That said,

Re: [Telepathy] Empathy port to ARM architecture (Ubuntu Touch)?

2015-09-22 Thread Olivier Crête
Hello, Empathy works fine on ARM, but it is a desktop application, so you need to be running a regular desktop environment. The Ubuntu Touch platform is a completely different platform requiring custom applications for everything. On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 00:39 +0200, Peter Bittner wrote: > Are

Re: [Telepathy] Make Google Hangouts voice and video chat work (Ubuntu 14.04)

2015-09-22 Thread Olivier Crête
Hello, Google Hangouts is not using standard XMPP Jingle signalling, but a variant that does the call over a chat room, so they can do multi-party calls. This variant is not publicly documented and so was never implemented in any telepathy CM. The best clients for Hangouts are Firefox and Chrome

Re: [Telepathy] Empathy port to ARM architecture (Ubuntu Touch)?

2015-09-22 Thread Jonathan Frederickson
Ubuntu Touch's built-in messaging client is based on Telepathy, but it can currently only send and receive SMS and MMS messages. I'm not sure, but Canonical's plan may be to extend this client so that it's a more general Telepathy client and making its UI responsive - essentially, replacing

Re: [Telepathy] Empathy port to ARM architecture (Ubuntu Touch)?

2015-09-22 Thread Jonathan Frederickson
I don't think there's too much of a distinction between those, honestly. Telepathy is *mostly* there, it just doesn't have an interface for retrieving server-side logs. On 9/22/15 1:48 PM, Olivier Crête wrote: > Hi, > > Empathy is the client for GNOME, so it's really focused on the GNOME >

Re: [Telepathy] Empathy port to ARM architecture (Ubuntu Touch)?

2015-09-22 Thread Peter Bittner
Okay, I kind of understand. Olivier: > Empathy is the client for GNOME, so it's really focused on the GNOME > desktop. The fact that the Ubuntu people use it is mostly historical. > If you want to write a new IM client, you should just start from > scratch based on either Telepathy or even

Re: [Telepathy] Empathy port to ARM architecture (Ubuntu Touch)?

2015-09-22 Thread Olivier Crête
Hi, Collabora also wrote a QML based Telepathy UI for the long defunct Meego Tablet project, there may be some code that can be re-usd from there. https://github.com/meego-tablet-ux/meego-app-im Olivier On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 13:52 -0400, Jonathan Frederickson wrote: > Ubuntu Touch's built-in

Re: [Telepathy] Empathy port to ARM architecture (Ubuntu Touch)?

2015-09-22 Thread Jonathan Frederickson
Oh wow, that even had video call support... this all makes me sad that MeeGo never went anywhere. :( - Jon F. On 9/22/15 4:53 PM, Olivier Crête wrote: > Hi, > > Collabora also wrote a QML based Telepathy UI for the long defunct > Meego Tablet project, there may be some code that can be re-usd

Re: [Telepathy] How configure Facebook chat support (Ubuntu 14.04)

2015-09-22 Thread Peter Bittner
Thank you Martin, IIUC, Facebook is simply not supported at all at the moment: telepathy-haze has no reference to Facebook in their latest source code [1], just Jabber, but that's what was dropped, isn't it? I have updated the Wiki pages FAQ and Protocols [2, 3] to reflect this better. Would be

Re: [Telepathy] Make Google Hangouts voice and video chat work (Ubuntu 14.04)

2015-09-22 Thread Peter Bittner
Thanks Daniel, is this a specific answer to my question? Then I don't understand it. - Why is it working with some contacts? Would be great if you could help, Peter P.S.: I understand, and I agree, that relying on Google is not necessarily a good thing. ATM though, I'm trying to fix a technical

Re: [Telepathy] Make Google Hangouts voice and video chat work (Ubuntu 14.04)

2015-09-22 Thread Peter Bittner
Alright, then this is *really* a friggin' crazy net neutrality issue. Or they have it in their terms of use, then it's just that we have no right to complain because we don't pay for the service. In other words, this is a problem that can most probably not be fixed (by a user) in a technical way.

Re: [Telepathy] Make Google Hangouts voice and video chat work (Ubuntu 14.04)

2015-09-22 Thread Peter Bittner
Very interesting indeed! Thank you for the background information. In fact, someone needs to come up with a (trusted, paid) combined SIP + XMPP service (why? [1]) that offers VoIP and video services for a wide audience. Simply because as a business you better focus on your core business. If their