Re: criterion proposal: prevent services timing out on system shutdown

2020-03-17 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 15:34 Kamil Paral wrote: > On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 2:40 PM Frantisek Zatloukal > wrote: > >> >> Yeah, I'd prefer something like: >> *All system services present after installation with one of the >> release-blocking package sets must not time out every time when they are

Re: criterion proposal: prevent services timing out on system shutdown

2020-03-17 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 4:49 PM Dulaney wrote: > I can't recall, but, is podman included in a release blocking package set? > > I ask because it already fails to properly exit and is eventually > timed out. Podman fails this criteria for F31 (and presumably F32). > That said, I'm all for this

Testing of F32 Workstation beta drop 0316.n.0

2020-03-17 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to my testing of F32 Workstation beta drop 0316.n.0: This was a bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. The ISO was check summed and loaded to a thumb drive using Media Writer. The test machine booted to Live normally. Anaconda started normally. Options to delete all

Re: criterion proposal: prevent services timing out on system shutdown

2020-03-17 Thread Dulaney
On Màrt 17, 2020 aig 09:46:53m +0100, sgrìobh Kamil Paral: > *Why* > > The recent spice-vdagent update causes all virtual machines to take 90 > seconds longer on every shutdown/reboot: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1813667 > The service hangs when systemd tries to stop it, and

Re: criterion proposal: prevent services timing out on system shutdown

2020-03-17 Thread Sumantro Mukherjee
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 19:10 Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 2:10 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 4:48 AM Kamil Paral wrote: >> > >> > All system services present after installation with one of the >> release-blocking package sets must not time out

Re: A personal usage report

2020-03-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-03-17 19:03, David wrote: > Do any Fedora users out there prefer the simpler default menu ? > Seriously, this is a "test" list.  Not a general discussion on what people like or don't like about a desktop. That type of "general audience" question is more appropriate on the "users" list.

Re: criterion proposal: prevent services timing out on system shutdown

2020-03-17 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 2:10 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 4:48 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > > > > All system services present after installation with one of the > release-blocking package sets must not time out frequently or regularly > when they are being stopped during system

Re: criterion proposal: prevent services timing out on system shutdown

2020-03-17 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 4:48 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > > All system services present after installation with one of the > release-blocking package sets must not time out frequently or regularly when > they are being stopped during system reboot/shutdown. > I like it generally, but I worry we'll

Re: criterion proposal: prevent services timing out on system shutdown

2020-03-17 Thread Kamil Paral
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 2:40 PM Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: > > Yeah, I'd prefer something like: > *All system services present after installation with one of the > release-blocking package sets must not time out every time when they are > being stopped during system reboot/shutdown.* > It's

Re: Testing impact of Red Hat office closure

2020-03-17 Thread Lili Nie
> On Mon, 2020-03-16 at 18:52 +0100, Kamil Paral wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 3:49 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > > Hi QA team, > > > > > > As many of you may already know, Red Hat has asked all employees to work > > > from home[1]. Given the current global conditions, I want to start > >

Re: criterion proposal: prevent services timing out on system shutdown

2020-03-17 Thread Kamil Paral
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 2:10 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 4:48 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > > > > All system services present after installation with one of the > release-blocking package sets must not time out frequently or regularly > when they are being stopped during system

A personal usage report

2020-03-17 Thread David
Xfce Rawhide related The last update went smoothly. I noticed, that I got an update to the whiskermenu-plugin I had never used the whisker menu, or if I did, it was in a distro three years that defaulted to that menu. That menu has received some attention recently. I had no idea what the

Re: criterion proposal: prevent services timing out on system shutdown

2020-03-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 12:41 PM Felix Miata wrote: > > Richard Ryniker composed on 2020-03-17 14:33 (UTC-0400): > > > Is shutdown in three minutes instead of three seconds an aggravation > > for the user who wants to use a new kernal or another operating > > system? Yes. > > When the UPS says

Re: criterion proposal: prevent services timing out on system shutdown

2020-03-17 Thread Richard Ryniker
I think failure to shut down promptly should not be a "blocker" event. Is shutdown in three minutes instead of three seconds an aggravation for the user who wants to use a new kernal or another operating system? Yes. Does unreasonable time to shut down indicate lack of quality in Fedora? Of

Re: criterion proposal: prevent services timing out on system shutdown

2020-03-17 Thread Chris Murphy
There could be differences of opinion for different editions. There are Server use cases where you do not want to just start killing off processes. TimeoutStopSec= should probably be honored in those cases; as well as units that properly send EXTEND_TIMEOUT_USEC=… which shouldn't be second

Re: Testing impact of Red Hat office closure

2020-03-17 Thread Brandon Nielsen
On 3/16/20 12:52 PM, Kamil Paral wrote: ...snip... * Testcase_dualboot_with_windows -- This will be affected by the lack of bare metal machines. ...snip... * Testcase_Printing_New_Printer (real printer) - Only few people have a real printer at home, I think. I don't. ...snip... I can test

Re: criterion proposal: prevent services timing out on system shutdown

2020-03-17 Thread Felix Miata
Richard Ryniker composed on 2020-03-17 14:33 (UTC-0400): > Is shutdown in three minutes instead of three seconds an aggravation > for the user who wants to use a new kernal or another operating > system? Yes. When the UPS says the battery is exhausted, must shutdown now, it's more than just an

Re: criterion proposal: prevent services timing out on system shutdown

2020-03-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 2:47 AM Kamil Paral wrote: >I find it a very poor experience to wait 90+ seconds for machine >reboot/shutdown. Much poorer than, say, a crashing desktop application (which >we block on), because that application can be replaced with a different one. >System services

Re: criterion proposal: prevent services timing out on system shutdown

2020-03-17 Thread Richard Ryniker
>When the UPS says the battery is exhausted, must shutdown now, it's more >than just an aggravation. It should not be. Worst case should be similar to abrupt power failure. (Real case: I pull the wrong plug out of my power strip, disconnecting my server instead of the device I intended to move.)

Re: Testing impact of Red Hat office closure

2020-03-17 Thread Brandon Nielsen
On 3/17/20 3:11 PM, Sumantro Mukherjee wrote: ...snip... Hey Brandon, Thanks a lot for helping us with Test Days, the introduction email got buried :( I've sponsored you and you should be able to edit wikis and it will be very thankful if you can help us out with validations :D -- No

Re: Testing impact of Red Hat office closure

2020-03-17 Thread Sumantro Mukherjee
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 1:04 AM Brandon Nielsen wrote: > On 3/16/20 12:52 PM, Kamil Paral wrote: > ...snip... > > * Testcase_dualboot_with_windows -- This will be affected by the lack of > > bare metal machines. > > ...snip... > > > * Testcase_Printing_New_Printer (real printer) - Only few

Fedora 30 updates-testing report

2020-03-17 Thread updates
The following Fedora 30 Security updates need testing: Age URL 120 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-71b2273a9f libarchive-3.3.3-7.fc30 6 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-40fa1ae94b libxslt-1.1.34-1.fc30 6

Fedora-Rawhide-20200317.n.1 compose check report

2020-03-17 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check! 1 of 43 required tests failed openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** below Failed openQA tests: 15/171 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test not failed in

Fedora-32-20200317.n.1 compose check report

2020-03-17 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 5/171 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-32-20200316.n.0): ID: 549253 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_cockpit_updates URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/549253 ID: 549259 Test: x86_64

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20200317.n.1 changes

2020-03-17 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20200316.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20200317.n.1 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 4 Added packages: 10 Dropped packages:3 Upgraded packages: 157 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 20.41 MiB Size of dropped packages

criterion proposal: prevent services timing out on system shutdown

2020-03-17 Thread Kamil Paral
*Why* The recent spice-vdagent update causes all virtual machines to take 90 seconds longer on every shutdown/reboot: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1813667 The service hangs when systemd tries to stop it, and systemd then kills it after a 90 second timeout expires. This is a

Fedora-Cloud-31-20200317.0 compose check report

2020-03-17 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 1/1 (x86_64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: F32 Beta KDE shutdown takes too long

2020-03-17 Thread Kamil Paral
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 12:43 AM Ed Greshko wrote: > > Thanks Ed, for debugging this and reporting the issue. I can reproduce > it, so I commented on the bug and also posted negative karma on that > spice-vdagent update: > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-6ff500948d > > > >

Fedora-Cloud-30-20200317.0 compose check report

2020-03-17 Thread Fedora compose checker
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