Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-07-21 Thread SBGK

Turnandcough wrote: 
 I'm really tempted to order a Ref 5.2 so I can hook up my Touch directly
 via EDO/USB instead of getting a converter for my current EE Minimax
 DAC.
 
 I'm just wondering if there is a lot to be gained soundwise over Touch's
 S/PDIF with TT3.0. Can it rival with a good USB converter connected
 directly to a PC? 
 What I'm aiming for is a meatier sound than I'm currently experiencing
 but the thought of buying yet another DAC only to end up with a marginal
 improvement is what's holding me back.


you could do worse than follow the instructions in the link in my
signature


here is some feedback of the effect

Just to confirm my initial impression. EDO 0.6 (option 999) + TT3.0 +
SBGK's blog settings delivers much improved sound. Not only wonderfully
balanced, but also with greater nuance in both vocals and instruments.
More layered soundstage as well. Am listening to Janos Starker playing
Bach cello suites, and have to say his cello never sounded as real as
this before in my system. 

for me the best sound is via spdif using the above settings, the sound
using EDO/USB is more hifi sounding ie detailed, but less musical



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-07-21 Thread Turnandcough

SBGK wrote: 
 you could do worse than follow the instructions in the link in my
 signature
 
 
 here is some feedback of the effect
 
 Just to confirm my initial impression. EDO 0.6 (option 999) + TT3.0 +
 SBGK's blog settings delivers much improved sound. Not only wonderfully
 balanced, but also with greater nuance in both vocals and instruments.
 More layered soundstage as well. Am listening to Janos Starker playing
 Bach cello suites, and have to say his cello never sounded as real as
 this before in my system. 
 
 for me the best sound is via spdif using the above settings, the sound
 using EDO/USB is more hifi sounding ie detailed, but less musical

So from what I gather, even if I'm not using USB, I need to uninstall
TT3.0, install EDO and reinstall TT3.0 to achieve this? I'll try and
sort through it all.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] post now playing to facebook wall

2012-07-21 Thread seren

I can't get this to work. The plugin is checked on LMS. The app is
installed on mysqueezebox.com but I cannot connect mysqueezebox with
facebook. Pressing the button connect with facebook doesn't do
anything at all, in any browser I tried :(



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] coax vs toslink

2012-07-21 Thread garym

saeyedoc wrote: 
 I searched but couldn't find anything on this. 
 Have been lurking for a few months, looking for a better solution to
 play a 2TB HD with mostly Flac, have been using my Oppo 93. 
 Jumped on the sale at Vann's the other day, ordered a Touch.
 My plan is to hook it up via digital to my Anthem MRX300 and use the
 analog output to eventually run a second zone outdoors. 
 Is there any difference in quality between the Toslink and coax digital
 outputs? I have no idea whether the input is better for one vs the other
 on the Anthem, I've only been using HDMI to this point. 
 I know another option would be to mod it to use the USB output and then
 use an asynchronous USB to s/pdif converter, but I want to try this
 first. 
 
 Thanks

both are active at the same time. try both and see which you like
better. I would predict no detectible difference.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-07-21 Thread guidof

lake_eleven wrote: 
 Without TT3.0, playback is without clicks. But when TT3.0 is added, I
 get click every 8 seconds. 
 
 Any suggestions on how get EDO work with TT3.0

I use EDO+TT3.0+SBGK's blog values (in that order). FWIW, no clicks.

See mi sig for eqpt. info.

Guido F.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] coax vs toslink

2012-07-21 Thread guidof

saeyedoc wrote: 
 
 My plan is to hook it up via digital to my Anthem MRX300 and use the
 analog output to eventually run a second zone outdoors. 
 Is there any difference in quality between the Toslink and coax digital
 outputs? 
 
 Thanks

As garym suggested, trying both with your equipment is the best way to
find out.

In my system, Toslink is more quiet and (slightly) more detailed,
possibly because of no ground connection. But it may or may not be so in
your system.

Regards,

Guido F.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-07-21 Thread Turnandcough

I'm getting good sound after installing EDO but when I tried turning off
the Touch's screen through Putty it couldn't find TT. Also I tried a
24/192 file and it plays - but super slow(like half speed)

Being unable to play 24/192 doesn't really bother me as I only have one
file but I would like to be able to kill the screen and daemons again. 

Is it possible that EDO flushed TT3.0? 

Also - I was under the impression that EDO in stock form was a bit thin
sounding but I'm not finding this (at the moment)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-07-21 Thread Triode

Turnandcough wrote: 
 I'm getting good sound after installing EDO but when I tried turning off
 the Touch's screen through Putty it couldn't find TT. Also I tried a
 24/192 file and it plays - but super slow(like half speed)
 
 Being unable to play 24/192 doesn't really bother me as I only have one
 file but I would like to be able to kill the screen and daemons again. 
 
 Is it possible that EDO flushed TT3.0? 
 
 Also - I was under the impression that EDO in stock form was a bit thin
 sounding but I'm not finding this (at the moment)

Running slow at 192k is probably because you are playing back as wav/pcm
which needs the 7.8 version lms and the player firmware.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-07-21 Thread Turnandcough

Triode wrote: 
 Running slow at 192k is probably because you are playing back as wav/pcm
 which needs the 7.8 version lms and the player firmware.

I just updated to 7.7.2-r9663. There does not appear to be a more recent
version. I installed you turn off screen app but I don't know how to
activate it - screen still stays on.
Do I need to reinstall TT3.0?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-07-21 Thread Triode

Turnandcough wrote: 
 I just updated to 7.7.2-r9663. There does not appear to be a more recent
 version. I installed you turn off screen app but I don't know how to
 activate it - screen still stays on.
 Do I need to reinstall TT3.0?

For 7.8 you need to install the beta version of LMS first - search this
forum for the link.

For the display off app, you go into settings, screen, screensaver and
change the when playing saver to display off.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Coax Connections

2012-07-21 Thread johnreid

dsdreamer wrote: 
 John,
 
 It should just work. Which $200 DAC do you have? Are there any lights on
 it to indicate lock status of the various data rates?  If so, what do
 you observe on those lights? Are there multiple inputs to select the on
 the DAC for various input connections? Are you sure you have selected
 the correct one?
 
 Can you swap to using IR Toshlink cable instead of coax as a diagnostic
 step? Does your receiver have a digital input you could use to test the
 Touch's digital output (either coax or IR)?
 
 Sorry, but its hard to know whats going on at your end without more
 information.

Thanks for the questions. Here is a better description of what I have.

I have a Musiland Monitor 02 US. The Musiland has analogue outputs
(which go to my Linn Classak receivor, which has no digital inputs
although it does have a Toslink out) two headphone outputs, each
slightly different), a USB input, a RCA based coax input and a Toslink
input. I has no indicator lights. It comes with an interface controlled
from my laptop or netbook computer (whichever it is connected to) but it
is set for normal operations - i.e., 44/16. The analogue and digital
outs on the Musiland appear to work together, that is they all have the
signal when I look at them through the Musiland interface on my laptop.


I have tried to get it to work again today with no luck. 

johnreid



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...

2012-07-21 Thread fmahia

No success with WaveIO async USB to I2S card.
Message at boot: no dac connected...
I tried different kernels, it's the same.

No problem with a Teradac TE7022L USB to I2S card.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Coax Connections

2012-07-21 Thread dsdreamer

John,

The Musiland Monitor is a USB interface; it does not have coax inputs.
It does have a coax *output* connection, which you seem to have mistaken
for an input.

Therein lies your problem.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] coax vs toslink

2012-07-21 Thread Viventis

There should be no difference at all.  Digital is digital.  Your
receiver's DAC will decode each the same.  The big difference is in the
Touch's analog output.  The DAC in the Touch is excellent, even better
than that found in many receivers.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Spotify won't play at all on Touch

2012-07-21 Thread Viventis

Spotify just started giving me the garbled symbol error trying to play
anything today 7/21.  Rhapsody has a much better app for SB.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-07-21 Thread Viventis

Does this App enhance the digital output though toslink to an external
receiver?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-07-21 Thread garym

Viventis wrote: 
 Does this App enhance the digital output though toslink to an external
 receiver?

this app will allow the playback of 24/192 material via toslink (or
S/PDIF) to a DAC that can play 24/192.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connection problems - whats going on?????

2012-07-21 Thread pdmarquardt

garym wrote: 
 that problem tells me that your local LMS does not have your
 mysqueezebox.com credentials entered correctly.  When you go to LMS 
 SETTINGS  mysqueezebox.com tab, do you see your mysb.com username
 (email)? and if so, enter your password on that page and look closely
 when done for any messages on the page about an error, etc.  Sometimes
 it is not obvious that it didn't take your credentials.

Thanks, but that's not it.  I've tried re-entering both in the web
control and the control panel, and I'm sure the password is right (I've
logged into the website with it).  When I try to click over to a stream,
on either the radio or the Duet, it pulls up the right stream name but
then hangs at Connecting.  I then can't get out of it without
restarting the device - I can back out using the arrows, but if I try to
select the library or another stream nothing happens.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT not seeing server

2012-07-21 Thread dood

toby10 wrote: 
 Yes, using USB on Touch means you have disconnected from LMS server on
 your NAS.
 Looks like LMS  Twonky are trying to access the same ports.  Try
 disabling Twonky for a few days to see if LMS works fine then.

So far so good, LMS and twonkymedia both streaming.

However, I have now encountered a new problem:
I can't access internet radio, either on the SBT or on the ipad app.
When I tap on internet radio it goes to BBC iplayer only. 
However, in my favourites and playlists I can see stations that I had
there.

What gives?



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