In Ubuntu 22.04.4 with NVidia driver 535.171.04 and windowing system
X11, I downloaded and installed the packages recommended in #135: after
a reboot, my terminal was fixed.
Thank you @vanvugt!
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I enabled jammy-proposed, as well as following the guide on
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed to enable selective
upgrading from proposed, then ran the following command:
sudo apt install gir1.2-mutter-10/jammy-proposed libmutter-10-0/jammy-
proposed mutter-common/jammy-proposed
>You don't really need to enable jammy-proposed. Just download the 3
proposed packages:
I first tried to install these 3 packages, albeit not with the suggested
method of installing them all at once as a bundle with the dpkg command
proposed by Daniel, and I ended up with a broken desktop (was
Downloading / installing the four packages vanvugt recommended in #135 +
a reboot fixed my terminal.
Thank you!
X11 / Nvidia 535.171.04 / Ubuntu 22.04.4
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Thank you Daniel. I removed the now-overruled PPA from earlier in this
thread and directly installed those 4 packages on my 22.04 workstation.
Works great after a reboot.
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Daniel;
Thanks for the update. Installed successfully and seems to be working fine
now. I have put the packages on hold this time to prevent unintended
upgrades like the last week.
If you can't hear the dogwoods barking you're taking things too
seriously.
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 1:30 AM
You don't really need to enable jammy-proposed. Just download the 3
proposed packages:
*
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/42.9-0ubuntu8/+build/28435945/+files/gir1.2-mutter-10_42.9-0ubuntu8_amd64.deb
*
@sladyo - Thanks. I hope I manage all that! Should I do this, or wait
for some official 22.04 solution? Don't want to further snafu the whole
thing.
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@donn-ingle Did you enable jammy-proposed first?
See the following posts:
- #92 by vorlon
- #115 by taisph
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Title:
Input lag or freezes on
@sldayo Can you help? This is what I get:
$ sudo apt install gir1.2-mutter-10/jammy-proposed libmutter-10-0/jammy-proposed
[sudo] password for donn:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Package gir1.2-mutter-10 is not available, but is
Ok, thanks for the thorough answer @egmont-gmail.
I fixed the issue for now as stated in my last comment though, so I'm gonna
stay on 22.04 if it stays fixed.
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> @egmont-gmail For users on 22.04, would you suggest upgrading to 24.04 as
> well ?
> Is this something you would recommend or are there some important pitfalls to
> know about beforehand ?
@toniopelo I cannot make a generic recommendation. It depends on your
circumstances, priorities,
@sldayo OMG, you got it right!
Finally this is fixed on my machine, thanks, A LOT.
Apparently it was upgrading mutter to the jammy-proposed version explicitly
that caused the dependency removing mess, so your command works fine and only
upgrade the necessary packages.
I can confirm, after a
I do not want to reinstall Ubuntu 22.04.4 just 3 months before I install
Ubuntu 24.04.1 Too much work.
OK. I bit the bullet (and it turned out to be not-that-painful). From
the Jammy Proposed PPA, I installed:
sudo apt install libmutter-10-0=42.9-0ubuntu8
sudo apt install
@toniopelo I don't know about others but I'm inclined toward waiting for
Ubuntu 24.04.1 because of my personal experience. I was eager to upgrade
to Ubuntu 24.04 for unrelated reasons but reverted to Ubuntu 22.04.4 due
to experiencing display/GPU issues that I didn't have before.
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In order to avoid removing vital packages when installing the proposed
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sudo apt install gir1.2-mutter-10/jammy-proposed libmutter-10-0/jammy-
proposed
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@egmont-gmail For users on 22.04, would you suggest upgrading to 24.04 as well ?
I guess the right upgrade path would be to upgrade to 23.10 first and then to
24.04.
Is this something you would recommend or are there some important pitfalls to
know about beforehand ?
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I don't understand how to re-fix this on 22.04 after the original PPA
fix — any instructions?
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> The only thing that has worked for me is listed below
> 1. Reinstall Ubuntu LTS 22.04.4 without any upgrade or just don't connect it
> to the internet.
To anyone who considers reinstalling the OS due to this issue (because
you messed up your system beyond repair, or whatever): Why not go for
Sorry for the delay and confusion. I was away for most of the last two
weeks.
It looks like a few things happened:
1. The security team inserted an update which took precedence over the
PPA. This is normal and correct. Just unlucky timing that I was away at
the same time AND the debdiff in
This appears to fix the issue for me on mantic (23.10) using the mantic-
proposed repo.
45.2-0ubuntu5 - for: gir1.2-mutter-13 libmutter-13-0 mutter-common
mutter
I did have to purge the ppa to get get to install. Maybe I did something
to get those vv version pinned.
I confirmed that I don't get
Here is a temporary solution that I am using in a few Ubuntu 22.04
installations that I currently manage.
1) Open a TTY (Ctrl + Alt + F3)
2) Remove mutter-common: sudo apt remove mutter-common gir1.2-mutter-10
libmutter-10-0
This will remove a lot of other important packages. So basically you
Antoine (@toniopelo), it is the same as for me. I do not have Wayland
installed (mutter) - only X11 - and an upgrade of just mutter-common and
libmutter-10-0 from the Jammy Proposed PPA does NOT fix the issue. As
soon as I try to install mutter (which I don't need or want), apt
proposes making
I'm just running glxgears all the time :(
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Input lag or freezes on Nvidia desktops with X11 after logging
"MetaSyncRing: Sync object is
Nobody seems to care but as I stated several times in this thread, for
some people (including me) upgrading these packages will remove some
other packages that apparently need the former ones. This is not an
option.
See the output of `sudo apt-get install mutter/jammy-proposed
I've been fighting with this bug for about 2 months now.
I've tried the new mutter fixes but nothing seemed to work.
The only thing that has worked for me is listed below
1. Reinstall Ubuntu LTS 22.04.4 without any upgrade or just don't connect it to
the internet.
2. After ubuntu install first
@mark You need to enable the proposed archive to get the packages I
mentioned. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed. I highly
recommend using the "selective" approach.
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Ubuntu LTS 22.04.4
I ran Deku's script, from message 102 above:
sudo apt install -y --allow-downgrades \
gir1.2-mutter-10=42.9-0ubuntu7vv1 \
mutter-common=42.9-0ubuntu7vv1 \
libmutter-10-0=42.9-0ubuntu7vv1;
That cleared things up, no lag / MetaSyncRing errors, but Ubuntu now
wants to re-upgrade
Using these packages seems to work:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/42.9-0ubuntu8
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This is awful. 22.04 is back to being treacle again. Halp!
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Installing the packages below seems to work for me (on Ubuntu 22.04.4,
X11, nvidia-550.78). No terminal lag is observed.
mutter=42.9-0ubuntu8
mutter-common=42.9-0ubuntu8
libmutter-10-0=42.9-0ubuntu8
gir1.2-mutter-10=42.9-0ubuntu8
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I had to downgrade the mutter packages on Ubuntu 22.04.4 today as the
lag returned after the latest update. Did almost the same as Deku King
although opted to deprioritize the 42.9-0ubuntu7.1 packages instead of
locking the older ones.
Package: gir1.2-mutter-10
Pin: version 42.9-0ubuntu7.1
> The only subsequent versions of this package in official sources are
> 42.9-0ubuntu7.1 (which was
just published by the security team)
And that "security" release fixed what exactly?
Let's see: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/42.9-0ubuntu7.1
Ah, nothing, just a rebuild.
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> Here's the "fix" snippet folks:
Thanks a lot @Deku King! This bug is driving me crazy, since it affects
all parts of the GUI and makes my PC almost unusable. Except for gaming,
which is not affected. Hmm... maybe I should check if I accidentally
booted the wrong OS...
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> That is not an accurate description of the events here. This was an issue
> introduced in mutter 45.2-0ubuntu4 and 42.9-0ubuntu7. The only subsequent
> versions of this package in official sources are 42.9-0ubuntu7.1 (which was
> just published by the security team), and 45.2-0ubuntu5 nd
Still an issue. Amazed the fix hasn't landed on 22.04 yet. Anyone we can
bribe to get this addressed sooner?
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> First time I've experienced broken --> fixed --> broken (in exact manner
> as pre-fix) of a STANDARD package from OFFICIAL sources.
That is not an accurate description of the events here. This was an issue
introduced in mutter 45.2-0ubuntu4 and 42.9-0ubuntu7. The only subsequent
versions of
Don't know why but I can't make this work.
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$> sudo apt install -y -s --allow-downgrades gir1.2-mutter-10=42.9-0ubuntu7vv1
mutter-common=42.9-0ubuntu7vv1 libmutter-10-0=42.9-0ubuntu7vv1
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Package
Thanks Deku.
With just a very quick test (applied then rebooted), the snippet posted
above seems to be working for me with Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS.
I had to add the apt option --allow-downgrades
Mark
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How on Earth did this get SNAFU'd again
My goodness.
First time I've experienced broken --> fixed --> broken (in exact manner as
pre-fix) of a STANDARD package from OFFICIAL sources.
This is nvidia-driver tier boobery.
Here's the "fix" snippet folks:
sudo apt install -y \
Hello JK (m0d), same sad behavior.
Why i can't just downgrade 1 package via...
`sudo apt install libmutter-10-0=42.9-0ubuntu7vv1`
Many gnome packages will be removed after this downgrade.
May be someone have another solution for do this safely?
Ubuntu 22.04.4 now is unusable for my work
Hi all, I'm new here and never done this before but I've done the
necessary to use the proposed packages because this bug is really really
annoying, making some stuff unusable.
I'm at the last step, when I should just upgrade my packages from
proposed, but I'm freaking out because upgrading
Following mgruberb's advice of also installing libmutter-10-0 fixed the
issue for me as well. Thanks all!
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I tested the proposed fix for jammy and it did solve the issue for me. I
upgraded both the libmutter-10-0 and mutter package (which also installs
the updated dependencies listed below) and then rebooted. The
libmutter-10-0 dependency appears to be necessary to remove the lag
issues but the new
Also testing the proposed fix, and it did not solve the issue for me
after installing and rebooting. I am still getting significant lag in
the terminal. The recommendation from comment #36 had been working
perfectly until this morning.
$ sudo apt-cache policy mutter-common
mutter-common:
Also testing the proposed fix, and it did not solve the issue for me
after installing and rebooting. I am still getting significant lag in
the terminal. The recommendation from comment #36 had been working
perfectly until this morning.
$ sudo apt-cache policy mutter-common
mutter-common:
Testing of Latest Proposed mutter-common. Installed and rebooted.
Unfortunately, the stutters in terminal have RETURNED.
$ sudo apt-cache policy mutter-common
mutter-common:
Installed: 42.9-0ubuntu8
Candidate: 42.9-0ubuntu8
Version table:
*** 42.9-0ubuntu8 400
400
Hello Marek, or anyone else affected,
Accepted mutter into mantic-proposed. The package will build now and be
available at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/45.2-0ubuntu5
in a few hours, and then in the -proposed repository.
Please help us by testing this new package. See
Hello Marek, or anyone else affected,
Accepted mutter into jammy-proposed. The package will build now and be
available at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/42.9-0ubuntu8
in a few hours, and then in the -proposed repository.
Please help us by testing this new package. See
OMG, what an incredibly stupid move by the ubuntu maintainers. I have
the same problem as anyone else who has been forcefully downgraded and I
tried to solve it by reverting to Daniel's version. However, this
"downgrade" would uninstall a lot of GNOME related packages (including
`gnome-shell`):
Same for me.
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Title:
Input lag or freezes on Nvidia desktops with X11 after logging
"MetaSyncRing: Sync object is not ready -- were events
Yep, same issue for me. I have not applied this update yet:
From "apt changelog mutter-common" run just seconds ago:
mutter (42.9-0ubuntu7.1) jammy-security; urgency=medium
* No-change rebuild in
In Ubuntu 22.04, I just got an update for mutter (42.9-0ubuntu7.1),
replacing the one from @Daniel's PPA (42.9-0ubuntu7vv1).
However, the bug resurfaced with this new version.
Regrettably, it seems this update didn't include Daniel van Vugt's
proposed fix.
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Coincident with this bug, I'm experiencing other bugs, so I think they
may be related,
Is there a timeline on this merging to Jammy?
The other bugs:
* emacs is super laggy (500ms - 1000ms delays on typing)
* gnome-terminal of course (500ms - indefinite delays on typing)
* screen flickers and
OS: Ubuntu 22.04.04 LTS
$XDG_SESSION_TYPE: x11
nVidia: 535.171.04
Yep, the system has improved significantly. I haven't noticed any laggy
behavior.
Thanks, Daniel!
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OS: Ubuntu 22.04.04 LTS
$XDG_SESSION_TYPE: x11
nVidia: 535.171.04
This fix also solves an annoying flickering issue with IntelliJ Idea
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Hey guys... hey Daniel,
Do you guys know when the fix will officially be available for 22.4.04
LTS? Is it expected in the next few days or weeks, or will it take a
long time to happen?
Thanks a lot!
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I have been experiencing this problem since I updated on 4/22, been
away. After the update gnome-term is very slow to echo.
Dpkg:
||/ Name Version Architecture Description
+++--=--===>
ii
Thanks - this fix appears to have resolved my lag issues.
OS: Ubuntu 22.04.04 LTS
$XDG_SESSION_TYPE: x11
nVidia: 535.171.04
Mobo/CPU: MSI MAG B550M BAZOOKA / AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
Video card: MSI GeForce GT1030 2GB PCI Express
Mostly this was affecting Gnome terminal for me, but just prior to
This does appear to fix the issue for me on 23.10
```
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:vanvugt/mutter
sudo apt update
sudo apt upgrade
sudo shutdown -R now
```
Thanks a lot for this fix!
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Just as a datapoint, the PPA has resolved my lag issues on my
Nvidia/xorg setup.
Thanks!
Details:
Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS
modinfo nvidia
...
version:535.171.04
I had those `MetaSyncRing: Sync object is not ready -- were events handled
properly?` journal entries as well, and did not
Hello Daniel,
Thank you so much for your hard work. I can confirm that, with your fix,
my machine is back to its usual snappy self.
OS:
Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS
Gnome Version: 42.9
X11
Nvidia Driver 535.171.04
Hardware:
Lenovo ThinkPad P15 Gen 1
NVIDIA Corporation TU117GLM [Quadro T1000 Mobile]
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This does appear to fix the issue for me on 22.4.04 LTS
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:vanvugt/mutter
sudo apt update
Then upgrade mutter-common, libmutter-10-0 and gir1.1-mutter-10 (I'm not
certain if all 3 of these are required or not).
This will get you version 42.9-0ubuntu7
Reboot !! (required)
Thanks. Things feel better now.
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Input lag or freezes on Nvidia desktops with X11 after logging
"MetaSyncRing: Sync object is not ready
> How do I get the new 46.0 release on Ubuntu 22.4.04 LTS?
You don't. Please use this instead:
https://launchpad.net/~vanvugt/+archive/ubuntu/mutter
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$apt update .. etc.
$apt search mutter ...
mutter/jammy-updates,now 42.9-0ubuntu7 amd64 [installed,automatic]
Example window manager using GNOME's window manager library
Seems I have "42.9". How do I get the new 46.0 release on Ubuntu 22.4.04
LTS?
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This bug was fixed in the package mutter - 46.0-1ubuntu7
---
mutter (46.0-1ubuntu7) noble; urgency=medium
[ Daniel van Vugt ]
* debian/control: mutter-common now breaks libmutter back to focal.
Because we have dropped X11 fractional scaling support for now,
https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-
team/mutter/-/commit/6cf0e31b3e23556edfbba7669f97935ba118895a
** Changed in: mutter (Ubuntu Noble)
Status: In Progress => Fix Committed
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The Nvidia driver version and Mutter version are unrelated to each other
so that doesn't sound like a problem.
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I opened a similar bug and @vanvugt advised me to come here.
I read everything and will try the PPA if need be.
But I'm using a driver that nobody mentioned, which was selected by Dell who
assembled the machine and installed the OS.
On Nvidia driver section, I'm using "Set the power ondemand
On second thoughts, 46.1 might not make it into the main release so
let's patch this in for Noble.
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Status: Fix Committed => In Progress
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The fix will come as an automatic update in future.
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"MetaSyncRing: Sync
Will this fix come out for 22.04.04 LTS ?
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"MetaSyncRing: Sync object is
@vanvugt
I can confirm that the ppa solves the input lag on my system:
Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS, using X11/GNOME and NVIDIA Driver Version:
535.147.05
Thank you.
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There are no more "latest patches". The PPA is already the latest as it
contains the same fix as 42.9-0ubuntu8 and 45.2-0ubuntu5 will.
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Hello Daniel van Vugt (@vanvugt)!
Would you mind applying your latest patches to your PPA? So we can test
the new packages.
- mutter_42.9-0ubuntu8.debdiff
- mutter_45.2-0ubuntu5.debdiff
Thanks,
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Just want to add that the bug also affects GnuCash and basically makes
it unusable. The updated mutter from the PPA fixed it.
Ubuntu 22.04, Xorg and NVidia 535.171.04.
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I can confirm that the ppa solves the input lag on my system:
Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS, using X11 and NVIDIA Driver Version: 525.147.05
Thank you.
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@gazhay
`
I agree. The input lag has not been fixed I am using X11 I don't even know what
`MetaSyncRing` is I don't have any these logs.
I've tried various NVIDIA drivers with no luck.
After a reboot it seems ok but over time it quickly starts to lag much
more.
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Came here to say that either there is another bug than the
"MetaSyncRing" bug or that is not a clear indicator of this bug.
Like others I had upgraded a couple of days ago and had horrible stutter
in vte based terminals, other apps were fine. Wayland resolved the
issue, but there are huge
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Status: Fix Released => In Progress
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** Changed in: mutter (Ubuntu Jammy)
Status: In Progress => Fix Released
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Everyone should also pay attention to the date and time shown in the
output from 'journalctl -b0 | grep MetaSyncRing'. If you have installed
the PPA then we only care about timestamps after the PPA was installed
and after you logged in again to apply the change.
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Running "journalctl -b0 | grep MetaSyncRing", I confirm having this bug,
which appeared roughly 2 w-ago after classical update.
This implies lack of responsiveness (up to 2 seconds lags) in terminal
as well as in GUI, especially when dragging objects, scrolling, double-
clicking and so on.
> Upstream Gnome 46 made a lot of changes recently to improve
performance and input lag in Gnome-Terminal. Those changes are separate
from this bug.
Exactly.
> I don't know whether those changes were backported to Ubuntu 22.04,
which ships Gnome 42.
They weren't, and almost certainly won't be.
I'd like to resolve any confusion from the last 10 comments or so. This
bug is only for people who have "MetaSyncRing" messages in their system
log:
journalctl -b0 | grep MetaSyncRing
like:
Window manager warning: MetaSyncRing: Sync object is not ready -- were events
handled properly?
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