Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

On 11/04/18 15:24 +0200, Klaus Wenninger wrote: > On 04/11/2018 01:14 AM, Andrew Beekhof wrote: >> you know... I wouldn't be opposed to running two copies (one for >> config, one for status) and having the crmd combine the two before >> sending to the PE. i've toyed with the idea in the past to

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

On 04/11/2018 01:14 AM, Andrew Beekhof wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:42 AM, Ken Gaillot > wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-04-10 at 08:50 +0200, Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 00:54:01 +0200 > > Jan Pokorný

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:42 AM, Ken Gaillot wrote: > On Tue, 2018-04-10 at 08:50 +0200, Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 00:54:01 +0200 > > Jan Pokorný wrote: > > > > > On 09/04/18 12:10 -0500, Ken Gaillot wrote: > > > >

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 18:08:55 +0200 Jan Pokorný wrote: > On 10/04/18 09:42 -0500, Ken Gaillot wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-04-10 at 08:50 +0200, Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais > > wrote: > >> On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 00:54:01 +0200 > >> Jan Pokorný wrote: > >>>

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

On 10/04/18 09:42 -0500, Ken Gaillot wrote: > On Tue, 2018-04-10 at 08:50 +0200, Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais > wrote: >> On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 00:54:01 +0200 >> Jan Pokorný wrote: >>> On 09/04/18 12:10 -0500, Ken Gaillot wrote: I won't change the systemd unit file names or 

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

On Tue, 2018-04-10 at 08:50 +0200, Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais wrote: > On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 00:54:01 +0200 > Jan Pokorný wrote: > > > On 09/04/18 12:10 -0500, Ken Gaillot wrote: > > > Based on the list discussion and feedback I could coax out of > > > others, I > > > will

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 00:54:01 +0200 Jan Pokorný wrote: > On 09/04/18 12:10 -0500, Ken Gaillot wrote: > > Based on the list discussion and feedback I could coax out of others, I > > will change the Pacemaker daemon names, including the log tags, for > > 2.0.0-rc3. > > > > I

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais writes: > > I feel like you guys are talking of a solution that already exists and you > probably already know, eg. "etcd". > > Etcd provides: > > * a cluster wide key/value storage engine > * support quorum > * key locking > * atomic changes > * REST

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

On 09/04/18 12:10 -0500, Ken Gaillot wrote: > Based on the list discussion and feedback I could coax out of others, I > will change the Pacemaker daemon names, including the log tags, for > 2.0.0-rc3. > > I will add symlinks for the old names, to allow help/version/metadata > calls in user

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

On Tue, 03 Apr 2018 16:35:18 -0500 Ken Gaillot wrote: > On Tue, 2018-04-03 at 08:33 +0200, Kristoffer Grönlund wrote: > > Ken Gaillot writes: > > > > > > I > > > > would vote against PREFIX-configd as compared to other cluster > > > > software, > > >

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

Based on the list discussion and feedback I could coax out of others, I will change the Pacemaker daemon names, including the log tags, for 2.0.0-rc3. I will add symlinks for the old names, to allow help/version/metadata calls in user scripts and higher-level tools to continue working during a

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

Jan Pokorný writes: > /me keenly joins the bike-shedding > > What about pcmk-based/pcmk-infod. First, we effectively tone down > "common information/base" from the expanded CIB abbreviation[*1], > and second, in the former case, we highlight that's the central point >

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

On 06/04/18 09:09 +0200, Kristoffer Grönlund wrote: > Ken Gaillot writes: >> On Tue, 2018-04-03 at 08:33 +0200, Kristoffer Grönlund wrote: >>> Ken Gaillot writes: >>> > I would vote against PREFIX-configd as compared to other cluster > software,

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

On 29/03/18 09:53 -0500, Ken Gaillot wrote: > On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 10:35 +0200, Kristoffer Grönlund wrote: >> Ken Gaillot writes: >>> Here are the current names, with some example replacements: >>> >>>  pacemakerd: PREFIX-launchd, PREFIX-launcher >>> >>>  attrd:

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

Klaus Wenninger writes: > > One thing I thought over as well is some kind of > a chicken & egg issue arising when you want to > use the syncing-mechanism so setup (bootstrap) > the cluster. > So something like the ssh-mechanism pcsd is > using might still be needed. > The

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

Ken Gaillot writes: > On Tue, 2018-04-03 at 08:33 +0200, Kristoffer Grönlund wrote: >> Ken Gaillot writes: >> >> > > I >> > > would vote against PREFIX-configd as compared to other cluster >> > > software, >> > > I would expect that daemon name to

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 10:18 PM, Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais < j...@dalibo.com> wrote: > On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 09:58:50 +1000 > Andrew Beekhof wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais < > > j...@dalibo.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2018

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

On 04/03/2018 11:35 PM, Ken Gaillot wrote: > On Tue, 2018-04-03 at 08:33 +0200, Kristoffer Grönlund wrote: >> Ken Gaillot writes: >> I would vote against PREFIX-configd as compared to other cluster software, I would expect that daemon name to refer to a

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

On Tue, 2018-04-03 at 08:33 +0200, Kristoffer Grönlund wrote: > Ken Gaillot writes: > > > > I > > > would vote against PREFIX-configd as compared to other cluster > > > software, > > > I would expect that daemon name to refer to a more generic > > > cluster > > >

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 09:58:50 +1000 Andrew Beekhof wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais < > j...@dalibo.com> wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 09:32:41 +1100 > > Andrew Beekhof wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 8:07 AM,

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

Ken Gaillot writes: >> I >> would vote against PREFIX-configd as compared to other cluster >> software, >> I would expect that daemon name to refer to a more generic cluster >> configuration key/value store, and that is something that I have some >> hope of adding in the

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais < j...@dalibo.com> wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 09:32:41 +1100 > Andrew Beekhof wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 8:07 AM, Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais < > > j...@dalibo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2018

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 10:35 +0200, Kristoffer Grönlund wrote: > Ken Gaillot writes: > > > Hi all, > > > > Andrew Beekhof brought up a potential change to help with reading > > Pacemaker logs. > > > > Currently, pacemaker daemon names are not intuitive, making it > >

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

Kristoffer Gronlund wrote: Ken Gaillot writes: Hi all, Andrew Beekhof brought up a potential change to help with reading Pacemaker logs. Great idea! [snipped] Better to do it now rather than later. I vote in favor of changing the names. Yes,

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

Ken Gaillot writes: > Hi all, > > Andrew Beekhof brought up a potential change to help with reading > Pacemaker logs. > > Currently, pacemaker daemon names are not intuitive, making it > difficult to search the system log or understand what each one does. > > The idea is to

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 6:41 AM, Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais < j...@dalibo.com> wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 12:40:25 -0500 > Ken Gaillot wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Andrew Beekhof brought up a potential change to help with reading > > Pacemaker logs. > > > > Currently,

Re: [ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 12:40:25 -0500 Ken Gaillot wrote: > Hi all, > > Andrew Beekhof brought up a potential change to help with reading > Pacemaker logs. > > Currently, pacemaker daemon names are not intuitive, making it > difficult to search the system log or understand

[ClusterLabs] Possible idea for 2.0.0: renaming the Pacemaker daemons

Hi all, Andrew Beekhof brought up a potential change to help with reading Pacemaker logs. Currently, pacemaker daemon names are not intuitive, making it difficult to search the system log or understand what each one does. The idea is to rename the daemons, with a common prefix, and a name that