Re: [ClusterLabs] Installing on SLES 12 -- Where's the Repos?

2017-06-16 Thread Eric Robinson
> > Out of curiosity, do the openSUSE Leap repos and packages work with > SLES? > > I know that there are some base system differences that could cause > problems, things like Leap using systemd/journald for logging while SLES is > still logging via syslog-ng (IIRC)... so it's possible that you

Re: [ClusterLabs] Installing on SLES 12 -- Where's the Repos?

2017-06-16 Thread Eric Robinson
> > I must have misspoken. > > No, I had invisible tags all over my last two messages. Haha, okay. Thought I was going nuts for a moment. --Eric ___ Users mailing list: Users@clusterlabs.org http://lists.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Re: [ClusterLabs] Installing on SLES 12 -- Where's the Repos?

2017-06-16 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
Eric Robinson writes: >> If you're looking to run without support, you can run openSUSE Leap - it's >> the >> closest equivalent to centOS in the SUSE world and the HA packages are all in >> there. >> > > Out of curiosity, do the openSUSE Leap repos and packages work

Re: [ClusterLabs] ClusterIP won't return to recovered node

2017-06-16 Thread Ken Gaillot
On 06/16/2017 01:18 PM, Dan Ragle wrote: > > > On 6/12/2017 10:30 AM, Ken Gaillot wrote: >> On 06/12/2017 09:23 AM, Klaus Wenninger wrote: >>> On 06/12/2017 04:02 PM, Ken Gaillot wrote: On 06/10/2017 10:53 AM, Dan Ragle wrote: > So I guess my bottom line question is: How does one tell

Re: [ClusterLabs] Installing on SLES 12 -- Where's the Repos?

2017-06-16 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 06/16/2017 12:55 PM, Eric Robinson wrote: > I must have misspoken. No, I had invisible tags all over my last two messages. (Digimer and I have differing views on usefulness of fencing in two-node active-passive clusters.) -- Dimitri Maziuk Programmer/sysadmin BioMagResBank, UW-Madison --

Re: [ClusterLabs] ClusterIP won't return to recovered node

2017-06-16 Thread Dan Ragle
On 6/12/2017 10:30 AM, Ken Gaillot wrote: On 06/12/2017 09:23 AM, Klaus Wenninger wrote: On 06/12/2017 04:02 PM, Ken Gaillot wrote: On 06/10/2017 10:53 AM, Dan Ragle wrote: So I guess my bottom line question is: How does one tell Pacemaker that the individual legs of globally unique clones

Re: [ClusterLabs] Installing on SLES 12 -- Where's the Repos?

2017-06-16 Thread Eric Robinson
> > Out of curiosity, what did I say that indicates that we're not using > > fencing? > > > > Same place you said you were new to HA and needed to learn corosync and > pacemaker to use OpenBSD. > I must have misspoken. I said I stopped using OpenBSD back around the year 2000 and switched to

Re: [ClusterLabs] Installing on SLES 12 -- Where's the Repos?

2017-06-16 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 06/16/2017 12:26 PM, Eric Robinson wrote: > > Out of curiosity, what did I say that indicates that we're not using fencing? > Same place you said you were new to HA and needed to learn corosync and pacemaker to use OpenBSD. HTH, -- Dimitri Maziuk Programmer/sysadmin BioMagResBank,

Re: [ClusterLabs] Installing on SLES 12 -- Where's the Repos?

2017-06-16 Thread Eric Robinson
> > I can understand how SUSE can charge for support, but not for the > software itself. Corosync, Pacemaker, and DRBD are all open source. > > So why do not you download open source and compile it yourself? > I've done that before and I could if necessary. Rather go with the easiest option

Re: [ClusterLabs] Installing on SLES 12 -- Where's the Repos?

2017-06-16 Thread Eric Robinson
> > Also, use fencing. Seriously, just do it. > > Yeah. Fencing is the only bit that's missing from this picture. > Out of curiosity, what did I say that indicates that we're not using fencing? --Eric ___ Users mailing list: Users@clusterlabs.org

Re: [ClusterLabs] Installing on SLES 12 -- Where's the Repos?

2017-06-16 Thread Eric Robinson
> Jokes (?) aside; Red Hat and SUSE both have paid teams that make sure the > HA software works well. So if you're new to HA, I strongly recommend > sticking with one of those two, and SUSE is what you mentioned. If you really > want to go to BSD or something else, I would recommend learning HA on

Re: [ClusterLabs] Pacemaker shutting down peer node

2017-06-16 Thread Ken Gaillot
On 06/16/2017 11:21 AM, Jaz Khan wrote: > Hi, > > I have checked node ha-apex2. > The log on that machine from /var/log/messages says "systemd: Power > button pressed" and "Shutting down" but this message appeared just > when the ha-apex1 node scheduled the shutdown with difference in

Re: [ClusterLabs] Pacemaker shutting down peer node

2017-06-16 Thread Jaz Khan
Hi, I have checked node ha-apex2. The log on that machine from /var/log/messages says "systemd: Power button pressed" and "Shutting down" but this message appeared just when the ha-apex1 node scheduled the shutdown with difference in seconds. It seems like the peer node (ha-apex1) has sent

Re: [ClusterLabs] Installing on SLES 12 -- Where's the Repos?

2017-06-16 Thread Dmitri Maziuk
On 2017-06-16 10:16, Digimer wrote: On 16/06/17 11:07 AM, Eric Robinson wrote: Step over to the *bsd side. They have cookies. Also zfs. And no lennartware, that alone's worth $700/year. Dima I left BSD for Linux back in 2000 or so. I have often been wistful for those days. ;-) --Eric

Re: [ClusterLabs] Installing on SLES 12 -- Where's the Repos?

2017-06-16 Thread Digimer
On 16/06/17 11:07 AM, Eric Robinson wrote: >> Step over to the *bsd side. They have cookies. Also zfs. >> >> And no lennartware, that alone's worth $700/year. >> >> Dima > > I left BSD for Linux back in 2000 or so. I have often been wistful for those > days. ;-) > > --Eric Jokes (?) aside; Red

Re: [ClusterLabs] Installing on SLES 12 -- Where's the Repos?

2017-06-16 Thread Dmitri Maziuk
On 2017-06-16 02:21, Eric Robinson wrote: Someone talk me off the ledge here. Step over to the *bsd side. They have cookies. Also zfs. And no lennartware, that alone's worth $700/year. Dima ___ Users mailing list: Users@clusterlabs.org

Re: [ClusterLabs] Installing on SLES 12 -- Where's the Repos?

2017-06-16 Thread Kristoffer Grönlund
Eric Robinson writes: > We've been a Red Hat/CentOS shop for 10+ years and have installed > Corosync+Pacemaker+DRBD dozens of times using the repositories, all for free. > > We are now trying out our first SLES 12 server, and I'm looking for the > repos. Where the heck

Re: [ClusterLabs] Installing on SLES 12 -- Where's the Repos?

2017-06-16 Thread emmanuel segura
you can go ahead without updates, anyway, if you don't to pay for support, use centos or other distro. 2017-06-16 10:14 GMT+02:00 Eric Robinson : > > > Ø You could test it for free, you just need to register > > Ø to https://scc.suse.com/login > > Ø After that, you

Re: [ClusterLabs] Installing on SLES 12 -- Where's the Repos?

2017-06-16 Thread Eric Robinson
Ø You could test it for free, you just need to register Ø to https://scc.suse.com/login Ø After that, you have an access for 60 days to SLES Repo. What happens at the end of the trial? Software stops working? I can understand how SUSE can charge for support, but not for the software

Re: [ClusterLabs] Installing on SLES 12 -- Where's the Repos?

2017-06-16 Thread Matthieu Fatrez
Hello Eric, You could test it for free, you just need to register to https://scc.suse.com/login After that, you have an access for 60 days to SLES Repo. And for the HA repo, it's here : https://www.suse.com/products/highavailability/download/ Matthieu 2017-06-16 9:21 GMT+02:00 Eric Robinson

[ClusterLabs] Installing on SLES 12 -- Where's the Repos?

2017-06-16 Thread Eric Robinson
We've been a Red Hat/CentOS shop for 10+ years and have installed Corosync+Pacemaker+DRBD dozens of times using the repositories, all for free. We are now trying out our first SLES 12 server, and I'm looking for the repos. Where the heck are they? I went looking, and all I can find is the SLES