Re: XSLT is Dead ?!

2009-04-24 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Derek Hohls wrote: At least, according to this article: http://java.dzone.com/news/death-xslt-web-frameworks Maybe some of the developers, or other power users here, would like to comment at this blog - I see Cocoon also gets a dig in the ribs ... Without commenting on this

Re: XSLT is Dead ?!

2009-04-24 Thread Derek Hohls
Carsten I had hoped comments like these would be added to the blog :) One other point, you say: The attraction of Cocoon as a separate framework has decreased, but that's definitely not due to XSLT. Why do you say Cocoon's attractiveness is decreasing... should we all be looking around for a

Re: XSLT is Dead ?!

2009-04-24 Thread Derek Hohls
Oh, and on the flip side, there's this article: http://www.onenaught.com/posts/8/xslt-in-server-side-web-frameworks (but I would guess that is preaching to the converted on this mailing list!) On 2009/04/24 at 09:03, in message 49f1805f.5ce9.00d...@csir.co.za, Derek Hohls dho...@csir.co.za

Re: XSLT is Dead ?!

2009-04-24 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Derek Hohls wrote: Carsten I had hoped comments like these would be added to the blog :) I usually do not comment blog entries - sorry :) One other point, you say: The attraction of Cocoon as a separate framework has decreased, but that's definitely not due to XSLT. Why do you say

AW: Re: XSLT is Dead ?!

2009-04-24 Thread Merico Raffaele
Dear Cocoon Community First of all I have to say that I am a Cocoon lover. We are working with this framework since 2005 and we have developed many different types of applications that include: - integration of a legacy system with WebServices - complex e-commerce solutions - graphical rendering

AW: Re: XSLT is Dead ?!

2009-04-24 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi, I have to confirm the first part of your post. I have been using Cocoon since 1.0.8 (I think) ... those were the times with processing-instructions, plain-xsp and no sitemap whatsoever and have used it in a number of projects verry successfuly. Currently I am considering using other

AW: Re: XSLT is Dead ?!

2009-04-24 Thread Derek Hohls
Chris I had to smile - here you say: the Maven build-process, the maven-plugins needed and the changes in the project-structures gave me the impression of relearning the entire thing from scratch. while in the next breath you talk about the simplicity of a Spring+(Flex+BlazeDS)/CXF+Aegis

AW: Re: XSLT is Dead ?!

2009-04-24 Thread Christofer Dutz
Jeah .. have to admit, that the number of acronyms might have been great, but for me it is more important how hard it is to fully understand the API :-) Von: Derek Hohls [dho...@csir.co.za] Gesendet: Freitag, 24. April 2009 15:52 An:

[C3] Accessing XSLT URL that requires Authentication

2009-04-24 Thread Nils Preusker
Hi all, I just started trying out cocoon 3 alpha 1 and I'm wondering if there is a solution for the following scenario: I'm retrieving all my XML and XSLT content via URLs that require authentication. Without the authentication I could simply create a pipeline like this: ... Pipeline pipeline =

Re: XSLT is Dead ?!

2009-04-24 Thread Stan Dyck
Derek Hohls wrote: At least, according to this article: http://java.dzone.com/news/death-xslt-web-frameworks Maybe some of the developers, or other power users here, would like to comment at this blog - I see Cocoon also gets a dig in the ribs ... Derek I saw this also. A few of his

Re: XSLT is Dead ?!

2009-04-24 Thread VĂ­ctor Pergolesi
Dear all: We have experience with Cocoon since 2.1.5. We share the common problem of learning curve, but we believe it is a great and powerful framework. We have a lot of tools developed with cocoon 2.1.x and now we want to use cocoon 2.2 for a portal and for other services.

Re: XSLT is Dead ?!

2009-04-24 Thread Antonio Gallardo
hi Derek, Comparing XSLT with JSP is like comparing pears and apples. XSLT is quite useful for some tasks and weak in others. The same apply for JSP. We still use XSLT even if you have JSP at hand. In cocoon particular wolrd, perhaps he should compare JSP with XSP. I did not read the whole