Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-25 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/25/18 11:47 AM, Robert Nichols wrote: > On 10/25/2018 01:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 10/25/2018 11:47 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> Or the jumper headers. Even the famous "0-ohm" resistors (a wire >>> with a fake resistor body with a single black band on it). Remember the >>> "/phantom" line

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-25 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/25/18 11:11 AM, Mike Wright wrote: > On 10/25/18 10:47 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > >> BTW, I used to work for Micropolis back in the 70's. I was employee >> 22 there. Yes, I'm an old fart. > > My first hard drive was a Micropolis 8" 20MB sounded like a jet engine > while it was ramping up to

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-25 Thread Robert Nichols
On 10/25/2018 01:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/25/2018 11:47 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: Or the jumper headers. Even the famous "0-ohm" resistors (a wire with a fake resistor body with a single black band on it). Remember the "/phantom" line (pin 67) to tri-state memory boards so the PROM would

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-25 Thread Mike Wright
On 10/25/18 10:47 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: BTW, I used to work for Micropolis back in the 70's. I was employee 22 there. Yes, I'm an old fart. My first hard drive was a Micropolis 8" 20MB sounded like a jet engine while it was ramping up to speed. Needed a separate Xebec?? controller

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/25/2018 11:47 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: Or the jumper headers. Even the famous "0-ohm" resistors (a wire with a fake resistor body with a single black band on it). Remember the "/phantom" line (pin 67) to tri-state memory boards so the PROM would present itself, overlying any RAM at that

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-25 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/24/18 3:01 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:04:37 + > Rick Stevens wrote: > >> Ah, the S-100 bus! Altair! IMSAI! Poly-88s! Vector Graphics! TDL! > > And never forget the switches on cards where you could select > which interrupt to use instead of being forced to try

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-25 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 15:47, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:49:39 + > Rick Stevens wrote: > > > The nastiest issues on any mobo still tend to be video- or wireless- > > related. Sometimes ACPI is a problem as well. > > My nastiest issue is always BIOS update. I'll follow the >

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-24 Thread Dave Stevens
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:04:37 + Rick Stevens wrote: > Ah, the S-100 bus! Altair! IMSAI! Poly-88s! Vector Graphics! TDL! don't forget Godno Electronics! d -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:04:37 + Rick Stevens wrote: > Ah, the S-100 bus! Altair! IMSAI! Poly-88s! Vector Graphics! TDL! And never forget the switches on cards where you could select which interrupt to use instead of being forced to try every possible card in every possible slot to find the

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-24 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/24/18 10:55 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:49:39 + > Rick Stevens wrote: > >> The nastiest issues on any mobo still tend to be video- or wireless- >> related. Sometimes ACPI is a problem as well. > > My nastiest issue is always BIOS update. I'll follow the >

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:49:39 + Rick Stevens wrote: > The nastiest issues on any mobo still tend to be video- or wireless- > related. Sometimes ACPI is a problem as well. My nastiest issue is always BIOS update. I'll follow the instructions to the letter and wind up with a bricked board and

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-24 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/23/18 11:46 PM, lejeczek via users wrote: > > > On 23/10/2018 21:13, lejeczek via users wrote: >> Would you have a mobo you could recommend? > > I see I might have been a bit vague when asking about "mobo" - not for > the Lenovo(nor any laptop), but just a "regular" ATX mobo for desktop.

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-24 Thread Fred Smith
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 07:52:52AM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 3:31 AM Germano Massullo ><[1]germano.massu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > In my opinion Gigabyte makes the best desktop motherboards > >I agree. They are not always the highest rated but my current

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-24 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 3:31 AM Germano Massullo wrote: > In my opinion Gigabyte makes the best desktop motherboards > I agree. They are not always the highest rated but my current mb took a lightning surge through the ethernet port and killed it. While the primary BIOS was killed, the backup

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-24 Thread Germano Massullo
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Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-24 Thread lejeczek via users
On 23/10/2018 21:13, lejeczek via users wrote: Would you have a mobo you could recommend? I see I might have been a bit vague when asking about "mobo" - not for the Lenovo(nor any laptop), but just a "regular" ATX mobo for desktop. thanks, L.

Re: Ryzen APU best mainboard?

2018-10-23 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/23/18 1:13 PM, lejeczek via users wrote: > hi guys > > I'm on a Lenovo E485 and that is quite unstable system, still with > random lockups killing everything. > I read here and there that BIOS can help if is well done. Check this page for firmware updates: