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Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On 01/29/18 08:15, InvalidPath wrote: > > So what are you saying there at the end? If I think Im removing gnome stuff > but > really not. Since GDM seems to have to depend upon every other stinking park > of > gnome I'm really not sure what would be left to interfere with SDDM. Should I > re-try

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

ic\"" That makes me think it's trying to start gnome-classic. Except it's not! I login to a plasma DE... And regarding the state.conf file under sddm. Yeah I agree that SHOULD be wrong. The bit I know about how this all works suggests that if I boot up, then interactively choose a D

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On 01/28/18 12:37, Ed Greshko wrote: > I suppose I may try > > dnf group remove "Fedora Workstation" I really meant to say dnf group remove "GNOME Desktop Environment" -- A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On 01/27/18 13:05, InvalidPath wrote: > I'm about to go down your list here and fill you, and everyone else in: > > _ "Are you getting a login display?"_  No. > When I replaced the symlink with one pointing to sddm.service and rebooted I > got a > solid black screen with no keyboard input being

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 9:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 01/28/18 11:46, InvalidPath wrote: > > Any other suggestions? I think I've proven sufficiently enough that the > normal > > method is not working in this case.. > > > I'll add a few things to the answers in a bit.

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On 01/28/18 11:46, InvalidPath wrote: > Any other suggestions?  I think I've proven sufficiently enough that the > normal > method is not working in this case.. I'll add a few things to the answers in a bit.  But if by "proven sufficiently enough that the normal method is not working in this

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 10:05 PM, InvalidPath wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 01/27/18 04:41, InvalidPath wrote: >> > So tonight, I guess I should try again.. maybe remove and reinstall >> sddm and I'd >> >

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 01/27/18 04:41, InvalidPath wrote: > > So tonight, I guess I should try again.. maybe remove and reinstall sddm > and I'd > > firstly think that installing a few other DM's would be a good idea but > then I'm > > left

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On 01/27/18 04:41, InvalidPath wrote: > So tonight, I guess I should try again.. maybe remove and reinstall sddm and > I'd > firstly think that installing a few other DM's would be a good idea but then > I'm > left with so many other dependencies that I'd be in the same boat as now. So > am I >

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 1:41 PM, InvalidPath wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:24 AM, InvalidPath > wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 12:24 AM, Ed Greshko >> wrote: >> >>> On 01/26/18 15:01, Joe Zeff wrote:

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:24 AM, InvalidPath wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 12:24 AM, Ed Greshko > wrote: > >> On 01/26/18 15:01, Joe Zeff wrote: >> > On 01/25/2018 07:54 PM, InvalidPath wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Ok so tonight I tried

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 12:24 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 01/26/18 15:01, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 01/25/2018 07:54 PM, InvalidPath wrote: > >> > >> > >> Ok so tonight I tried enabling, and I had to manually rm or mv the > existing > >> display-manager.service file because

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

However running dnf > remove @gnome-desktop also want's to remove things like qemu, and > seabios. Two VERY IMPORTANT things that I use on a daily basis with > my WIn10 kvm guest. > > Is it possible to remove gnome but leave the unused and dependant > packages? The usual

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On 01/26/18 15:01, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/25/2018 07:54 PM, InvalidPath wrote: >> >> >> Ok so tonight I tried enabling, and I had to manually rm or mv the existing >> display-manager.service file because enabling another DE would not overwrite >> it. I >> tried both SDDM and LightDM... neither

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On 01/25/2018 07:54 PM, InvalidPath wrote: Ok so tonight I tried enabling, and I had to manually rm or mv the existing display-manager.service file because enabling another DE would not overwrite it. I tried both SDDM and LightDM... neither of which would boot correctly, all  got was a

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On 01/26/18 12:59, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 25 January 2018, Rick Stevens sent: >> And one must ensure that the DM (gdm, lightdm, sddm) is enabled as >> well. > I don't think you want several display managers *enabled*, surely you > only want the active one to be enabled. > It is not

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

Allegedly, on or about 25 January 2018, Rick Stevens sent: > And one must ensure that the DM (gdm, lightdm, sddm) is enabled as > well. I don't think you want several display managers *enabled*, surely you only want the active one to be enabled. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On 01/26/18 11:54, InvalidPath wrote: > > > > Ok so tonight I tried enabling, and I had to manually rm or mv the existing > display-manager.service file because enabling another DE would not overwrite > it. I > tried both SDDM and LightDM... neither of which would boot correctly, all  > got was

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 8:54 PM, InvalidPath wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Rick Stevens > wrote: > >> On 01/25/2018 03:27 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> > On 01/25/2018 11:51 AM, InvalidPath wrote: >> >> >> >> WOuld that cause KDE. Plasma or

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 01/25/2018 03:27 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 01/25/2018 11:51 AM, InvalidPath wrote: > >> > >> WOuld that cause KDE. Plasma or any other DE to not work? > > > > Only if you didn't have some other DM such as lightdm

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On 01/25/2018 03:27 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/25/2018 11:51 AM, InvalidPath wrote: >> >> WOuld that cause KDE. Plasma or any other DE to not work? > > Only if you didn't have some other DM such as lightdm installed. And one must ensure that the DM (gdm, lightdm, sddm) is enabled as well.

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On 01/25/2018 11:51 AM, InvalidPath wrote: WOuld that cause KDE. Plasma or any other DE to not work? Only if you didn't have some other DM such as lightdm installed. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2018-01-25 at 12:51 -0700, InvalidPath wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Michael Singh > wrote: > > > On Thu, 2018-01-25 at 08:23 -0700, InvalidPath wrote: > > > >

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Thu, 2018-01-25 at 12:51 -0700, InvalidPath wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Michael Singh wrote: > > On Thu, 2018-01-25 at 08:23 -0700, InvalidPath wrote: > > > Tl;Dr I had to reinstall gnome-desktop in order to have a working > > > DE which sucks

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Michael Singh wrote: > On Thu, 2018-01-25 at 08:23 -0700, InvalidPath wrote: > > Tl;Dr I had to reinstall gnome-desktop in order to have a working > > DE which sucks because I am not using gnome. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Perhaps, you

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Thu, 2018-01-25 at 08:23 -0700, InvalidPath wrote: > Tl;Dr I had to reinstall gnome-desktop in order to have a working > DE which sucks because I am not using gnome. > > Any thoughts? > Perhaps, you were missing the GNOME Display Manager package. Sent via Migadu.com, world's easiest

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

On Jan 24, 2018 10:23 PM, "Todd Zullinger" <t...@pobox.com> wrote: Rex Dieter wrote: >> Is it possible to remove gnome but leave the unused and dependant >> packages? > > setting > clean_requirements_on_remove=False > in /etc/dnf/dnf.conf may

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

Rex Dieter wrote: >> Is it possible to remove gnome but leave the unused and dependant >> packages? > > setting > clean_requirements_on_remove=False > in /etc/dnf/dnf.conf may help Good point. That can also be done on the command line with --noautoremove with dnf >= 2

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

> dont use Gnome I want to remove it. However running dnf remove > > @gnome-desktop also want's to remove things like qemu, and seabios. Two > > VERY IMPORTANT things that I use on a daily basis with my WIn10 kvm > guest. > > > > Is it possible to remove gno

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

hings like qemu, and seabios. Two > VERY IMPORTANT things that I use on a daily basis with my WIn10 kvm guest. > > Is it possible to remove gnome but leave the unused and dependant > packages? setting clean_requirements_on_remove=False in /etc/dn

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

InvalidPath wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 4:31 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> If you know which packages you want to remain have you tried adding >> --exclude to the >> dnf command? [...] > $ sudo dnf remove @gnome-desktop --exclude=qemu* > zsh: no matches found:

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

. Two VERY IMPORTANT things that I use on > a daily > > basis with my WIn10 kvm guest. > > > > Is it possible to remove gnome but leave the unused and dependant > packages? > > > If you know which packages you want to remain have you tried adding > --

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

nce I dont use > Gnome I > > want to remove it. However running dnf remove @gnome-desktop also > want's to remove > > things like qemu, and seabios. Two VERY IMPORTANT things that I use on a > daily > > basis with my WIn10 kvm guest. > > > > Is it possibl

Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

top also want's to > remove > things like qemu, and seabios. Two VERY IMPORTANT things that I use on a daily > basis with my WIn10 kvm guest. > > Is it possible to remove gnome but leave the unused and dependant packages? If you know which packages you want to remain have you tried adding

Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

things that I use on a daily basis with my WIn10 kvm guest. Is it possible to remove gnome but leave the unused and dependant packages? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le

Re: The leave command of FreeBSD

On 21May2015 21:41, jd1008 jd1...@gmail.com wrote: [...] {1149-jd@localhost}$ make Makefile:6: *** missing separator. Stop. {1150-jd@localhost}$ make -I. Makefile:6: *** missing separator. Stop. $ make -I. Makefile:6: *** missing separator. Stop. So, I still need a converter :) :) No, you

Re: The leave command of FreeBSD

doesn't mean you aren't stupid. - Robert Fulghum I just compiled it manually without the use of the makefile. It works. Mathew Miller suggested: gcc -D__COPYRIGHT\(x\)= -D__RCSID\(x\)= leave.c -o leave And it works! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: The leave command of FreeBSD

-D__COPYRIGHT\(x\)= -D__RCSID\(x\)= leave.c -o leave instead. (Works for me!) I hope you guys can incorporate it into the Calendar rpm package. We're not the ones to ask. You can find the maintainer here https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/calendar/ — it's dcantrel — and ask directly, or file

Re: The leave command of FreeBSD

On 05/22/2015 12:16 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2015-05-21 at 19:19 -0600, jd1008 wrote: Is there a package of Linux which contains this? No idea what this is, but yum search can be useful. poc Usage of the LINUX command calendar? (dnf install calendar) -- Fedora release

Re: The leave command of FreeBSD

On Thu, 2015-05-21 at 19:19 -0600, jd1008 wrote: Is there a package of Linux which contains this? No idea what this is, but yum search can be useful. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: The leave command of FreeBSD

On Fri, 2015-05-22 at 12:36 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: On 05/22/2015 12:16 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2015-05-21 at 19:19 -0600, jd1008 wrote: Is there a package of Linux which contains this? No idea what this is, but yum search can be useful. poc Usage of the

Re: The leave command of FreeBSD

On Fri, 2015-05-22 at 12:36 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: On 05/22/2015 12:16 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2015-05-21 at 19:19 -0600, jd1008 wrote: Is there a package of Linux which contains this? No idea what this is, but yum search can be useful. poc Usage of the

Re: The leave command of FreeBSD

On 05/22/2015 04:54 PM, Doug H. wrote: On Fri, 2015-05-22 at 12:36 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: On 05/22/2015 12:16 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2015-05-21 at 19:19 -0600, jd1008 wrote: Is there a package of Linux which contains this? No idea what this is, but yum search can be

Re: The leave command of FreeBSD

it would cover the need here. Note that date there stops at dd for day, no hours or minutes. I did install it and look at the full man page. Might have just missed it but not seeing that it does reminders based on minute level time of day. I think that is the core job for the leave program

Re: The leave command of FreeBSD

as needed. Quick to setup and easy to use. Thank you Doug. The Leave command now works, thanks to Mathew Miller's help. Cheers, JD -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora

Re: The leave command of FreeBSD

On 05/21/2015 09:48 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 09:41:19PM -0600, jd1008 wrote: {1149-jd@localhost}$ make Check the `rules` file. We're in alternate-universe land here; the actual build doesn't use make. Try gcc -D__COPYRIGHT\(x\)= -D__RCSID\(x\)= leave.c -o leave

Re: The leave command of FreeBSD

On 05/21/2015 09:48 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: gcc -D__COPYRIGHT\(x\)= -D__RCSID\(x\)= leave.c -o leave Thanx. That does it. Cheers, JD -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Re: The leave command of FreeBSD

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 10:29:08AM -0600, jd1008 wrote: On 05/21/2015 09:48 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: {1149-jd@localhost}$ make Check the `rules` file. We're in alternate-universe land here; the actual build doesn't use make. Try gcc -D__COPYRIGHT\(x\)= -D__RCSID\(x\)= leave.c -o leave

Re: The leave command of FreeBSD

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 07:19:07PM -0600, jd1008 wrote: Is there a package of Linux which contains this? Doesn't look like it's packaged for Fedora, but there is a debian package, which refers to this as the NetBSD source: http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/usr.bin/leave/ I am amused

The leave command of FreeBSD

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Re: The leave command of FreeBSD

://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/usr.bin/leave/ I am amused to see that the makefile hasn't been modified in 17 years. It shouldn't be hard to add to Fedora if anyone is interested. (Or to just build, using the source from the debian package directly) Found older orig sources at https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base

Re: The leave command of FreeBSD

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 08:00:04PM -0600, jd1008 wrote: Found older orig sources at https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/usr.bin/leave/ but the link you sent ha smore recent revs. I googled for a tool that converts bsd make files to gnu. So far, no real hit :( Try the patch from the debian

Re: The leave command of FreeBSD

On 05/21/2015 09:15 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 08:00:04PM -0600, jd1008 wrote: Found older orig sources at https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/usr.bin/leave/ but the link you sent ha smore recent revs. I googled for a tool that converts bsd make files to gnu. So far

Re: The leave command of FreeBSD

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 09:41:19PM -0600, jd1008 wrote: {1149-jd@localhost}$ make Check the `rules` file. We're in alternate-universe land here; the actual build doesn't use make. Try gcc -D__COPYRIGHT\(x\)= -D__RCSID\(x\)= leave.c -o leave instead. (Works for me!) -- Matthew Miller mat

Re: the unix leave command

On 20 July 2014 05:59, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 07/20/14 12:21, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 19Jul2014 19:08, JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote: is there an analog for it in Linux? More context? I had to look it up to find the FreeBSD man-page. The leave utility waits until

Re: the unix leave command

On Sat, 2014-07-19 at 19:08 -0600, JD wrote: is there an analog for it in Linux? I've been a Unix user since 1975 (yes, really) and I never heard of that, so maybe a little more explanation would be in order. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: the unix leave command

On 07/20/2014 09:16 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: is there an analog for it in Linux? I've been a Unix user since 1975 (yes, really) and I never heard of that, so maybe a little more explanation would be in order. +1, 1985... maybe the at command.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User

Re: the unix leave command

to look it up to find the FreeBSD man-page. The leave utility waits until the specified time, then reminds you that you have to leave. You are reminded 5 minutes and 1 minute before the actual time, at the time, and every minute thereafter. When you log off, leave exits just before it would have

Re: the unix leave command

: is there an analog for it in Linux? More context? I had to look it up to find the FreeBSD man-page. The leave utility waits until the specified time, then reminds you that you have to leave. You are reminded 5 minutes and 1 minute before the actual time, at the time, and every minute

the unix leave command

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Re: the unix leave command

On 19Jul2014 19:08, JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote: is there an analog for it in Linux? More context? Cheers, Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users

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to find the FreeBSD man-page. The leave utility waits until the specified time, then reminds you that you have to leave. You are reminded 5 minutes and 1 minute before the actual time, at the time, and every minute thereafter. When you log off, leave exits just before it would have printed

how to remove Gnome and leave or install KDE?

last week I tried to install the ubuntu 12.0.1-Server. I was tried of having the new bootloader mess up my loading fedora. The CD asked me some questions that my F-17 CD did not ask, then it said to reboot. I did and without any load errors, it booted into

Re: how to remove Gnome and leave or install KDE?

On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 14:46 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: last week I tried to install the ubuntu 12.0.1-Server. I was tried of having the new bootloader mess up my loading fedora. The CD asked me some questions that my F-17 CD did not ask, then it said to reboot. I

Re: how to remove Gnome and leave or install KDE?

On 11/27/2012 09:30 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 14:46 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: last week I tried to install the ubuntu 12.0.1-Server. I was tried of having the new bootloader mess up my loading fedora. The CD asked me some questions that my

Re: how to remove Gnome and leave or install KDE?

On 11/27/2012 06:30 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: You can use KDE perfectly well without removing Gnome (that's what I do). If you only want KDE and not Gnome, you can install the KDE spin available from fedoraproject.org. Or, if you really want to customize things, you can do what I did when

Re: It's time for you to leave.

On 12/31/2011 05:30 PM, g wrote: do consider this,*never* say you are sorry. people may agree with you. Thank you, Special Agent Gibbs. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Re: It's time for you to leave.

On 01/01/2012 10:05 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/31/2011 05:30 PM, g wrote: do consider this, *never* say you are sorry. people may agree with you. Thank you, Special Agent Gibbs. -=- lshicaf. welcome. now i am going to have to get a new personae. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please

Re: It's time for you to leave.

On 12/30/2011 05:55 PM, Craig White wrote: I guess I missed the announcement where you became moderator of fedora-list. Craig Are you trying to be offensive or are you simply obtuse? If she were to come back and were able to behave herself, I'd welcome her with open arms because under

Re: It's time for you to leave.

On 12/30/2011 05:59 PM, Craig White wrote: I suppose we weren't supposed to notice more whining when it is sandwiched between justification for the whining and self-congratulations on your own perceived good behavior? Craig I am beginning to get the impression, Craig, that there's nothing I

Re: It's time for you to leave.

Subject: Re: It's time for you to leave. On 12/31/2011 01:50 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: Linda has severe issues that cause her to start new threads that have nothing to do with Fedora or Linux even and do nothing but waste everybody's time. Not only that, she keeps dumping her issues into other threads

Re: It's time for you to leave.

On 12/31/2011 08:04 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/30/2011 05:59 PM, Craig White wrote: I suppose we weren't supposed to notice more whining when it is sandwiched between justification for the whining and self-congratulations on your own perceived good behavior? Craig I am beginning to get the

Re: It's time for you to leave.

On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 00:01 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/30/2011 05:55 PM, Craig White wrote: I guess I missed the announcement where you became moderator of fedora-list. Craig Are you trying to be offensive or are you simply obtuse? If she were to come back and were able to behave

Re: It's time for you to leave.

Am 31.12.2011 14:18, schrieb Craig White: On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 00:01 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/30/2011 05:55 PM, Craig White wrote: I guess I missed the announcement where you became moderator of fedora-list. Are you trying to be offensive or are you simply obtuse? If she were to

Re: It's time for you to leave.

On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 14:27 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 31.12.2011 14:18, schrieb Craig White: On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 00:01 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/30/2011 05:55 PM, Craig White wrote: I guess I missed the announcement where you became moderator of fedora-list. Are you trying

Re: It's time for you to leave.

to mere users. As long as what they wanted to give us was something I found easy to work with, it didn't matter much, but now, it's just one more reason to leave and never look back. And, you'll note, when there's a post asking how to get Gnome 3 to do something, I don't respond

Re: It's time for you to leave.

with, it didn't matter much, but now, it's just one more reason to leave and never look back. And, you'll note, when there's a post asking how to get Gnome 3 to do something, I don't respond with a smart ass post telling them to try XFCE, KDE, LXDE or something else, because that wouldn't

Re: It's time for you to leave.

On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:01:32 -0600, AK (Aaron) wrote: What I don't understand why people claim this list is open to all ideas then attack people for saying things they don't want to hear. If people would have just ignore statements of the OP I would not have to have read multiple posts of

Re: It's time for you to leave.

On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 12:06:40 -0500, J (Jim) wrote: For those of you that are garus , if you do not have the patience with dealing with NEWBIEs to Linux. just ignore the post and let someone who does. There is a number of people on this help site that are patience with Newbies, Two that

Re: It's time for you to leave.

On 12/31/2011 04:18 AM, g wrote: you have noticed that also. do like i do. consider the source. In the future, I will simply regard you as an offense thief: taking offense when none was offered and ignore your self-righteous blathering. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: It's time for you to leave.

On 12/31/2011 05:18 AM, Craig White wrote: at the point you called me an ass, you lost any moral authority to suggest that I am the one who is being offensive. Since the beginning of this thread, you have been nothing if not offensive, self-righteous and intolerant. You have no grounds for

Re: It's time for you to leave.

On 12/31/2011 06:53 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/31/2011 04:18 AM, g wrote: you have noticed that also. do like i do. consider the source. In the future, I will simply regard you as an offense thief: taking offense when none was offered and ignore your self-righteous blathering. -=- i do

Re: It's time for you to leave.

On 12/31/2011 09:06 AM, Jim wrote: For those of you that are garus , if you do not have the patience with dealing with NEWBIEs to Linux. just ignore the post and let someone who does. I'm not claiming to be a guru, but I don't consider myself a newbie any more. I've been using Linux, off

Re: It's time for you to leave.

On 12/31/2011 09:17 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Often it's the newbie who is not (!) patient enough and doesn't show any interest in examining/learning/fixing something. Instead, there are complaints and rushed reinstalls (only to run into the same problem later, giving reason again to

Re: It's time for you to leave.

On 12/31/2011 11:07 AM, g wrote: so, if what i wrote offends you, tfb, and another 'source' to consider. Sorry, that was intended for the egregious Craig; I didn't notice that the post wasn't from him. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

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to what Craig posted. Now that they've been said, I've no need to continue. There are a few comments I could make on what the quoted text implies, but I can't see any good coming from them, so I'll leave them unsaid. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

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On 12/31/2011 11:13 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/31/2011 09:06 AM, Jim wrote: For those of you that are garus , if you do not have the patience with dealing with NEWBIEs to Linux. just ignore the post and let someone who does. I'm not claiming to be a guru, but I don't consider myself a newbie

Re: It's time for you to leave.

On 12/31/2011 07:21 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/31/2011 11:07 AM, g wrote: so, if what i wrote offends you, tfb, and another 'source' to consider. Sorry, that was intended for the egregious Craig; I didn't notice that the post wasn't from him. -=- accepted. do consider this, *never* say you

Re: It's time for you to leave.

On 12/31/2011 08:18 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: There are a few comments I could make on what the quoted text implies, but I can't see any good coming from them, so I'll leave them unsaid. -=- a good sign of intelligence, maturity, and wisdom. unless they just really do pissed you off. B-D have

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On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:16:16 -0700 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: I don't share your obvious contempt for her presence and think you have been unnecessarily harsh. I think that too. I am a Fedora desktop user. My understanding is that Fedora welcome a broad range of users. I have

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nomnex ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 30/12/2011 10:00: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:16:16 -0700 Craig Whitecraigwh...@azapple.com wrote: I don't share your obvious contempt for her presence and think you have been unnecessarily harsh. I think that too. I am a Fedora desktop user.

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unnecessarily harsh to point out the official purpose of this list and mailing list guidelines then again let's agree to disagree. I think it's reasonable to presume contempt when you tell someone it's time for them to leave. As for the guidelines - sure - but there are all sorts of off-topic

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On 30-12-11 07:29, Joel Rees wrote: Reading her posts often reminds me of trying to teach my sisters how to use something on the computer. All of them at once, on a day when they definitely have their wires crossed. I solved that by advising my sister she should get a MacBook :) She could be

Re: It's time for you to leave.

On 30-12-11 10:00, nomnex wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:16:16 -0700 Craig Whitecraigwh...@azapple.com wrote: I don't share your obvious contempt for her presence and think you have been unnecessarily harsh. I think that too. I am a Fedora desktop user. My understanding is that Fedora welcome

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On 30-12-11 10:31, antonio montagnani wrote: in this list a bunch of talebans (a list is easy to be prepared) think to have the truth and of course the right to say what is right and what is wrong. Wow a semi-Godwin. With the atrocities that the Taliban have inflicted upon many innocent men,

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On 12/30/2011 05:28 AM, Craig White wrote: I think it's reasonable to presume contempt when you tell someone it's time for them to leave. No. Linda has severe issues that cause her to start new threads that have nothing to do with Fedora or Linux even and do nothing but waste everybody's

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On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 09:50 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/30/2011 05:28 AM, Craig White wrote: I think it's reasonable to presume contempt when you tell someone it's time for them to leave. No. Linda has severe issues that cause her to start new threads that have nothing to do

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