On 09/25/2011 08:03 PM, antonio montagnani wrote:
when posting to tech support;
} To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org
} Cc: Fedora List fedora-l...@redhat.com
please use one or other address, not both.
proper address is;
users@lists.fedoraproject.org
On 09/22/2011 02:15 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them
free and one can make a strong case that therefore Fedora developers
have no responsibility to listen to user's complaints.
However, the Fedora users provide a service to the
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 06:45 +, g wrote:
when posting to tech support;
} To: Community support for Fedora users
users@lists.fedoraproject.org
} Cc: Fedora List fedora-l...@redhat.com
please use one or other address, not both.
proper address is;
Joe Zeff:
A friend of mine suggests leaving an empty slot between each two cards
whenever possible for better ventilation.
That can help, though you can't do that with some PC, because of how the
IRQs are shared between slots, and motherboard hardware (you may need to
put certain cards in
2011/9/26 Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au:
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 06:45 +, g wrote:
when posting to tech support;
} To: Community support for Fedora users
users@lists.fedoraproject.org
} Cc: Fedora List fedora-l...@redhat.com
please use one or other address, not both.
proper
On Sun, 2011-09-25 at 10:08 -0700, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote:
32-bit ARM or PowerPC systems don't need fans. If you want a quiet
computer, buy an old PowerPC Mac used and run a PowerPC Linux distro
on it. Doesn't Fedora support PowerPC?
I'm not in a position to get yet another computer.
On the basis that you need to laugh every so often.
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/AppletsTransition:
Desktop design copouts
Then there are applets that are about making it marginally faster to
do things that should be obvious and fast to do without an applet to
do them. If these are useful,
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 12:28 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
just because I pushed a Reply to all and not a simple Reply... :-(
Well the post to this list, only message is more about the original
poster than the respondent. But it does highlight yet another problem
with the reply to all feature not
On 09/25/2011 11:28 PM, g wrote:
On 09/25/2011 08:15 PM, sean darcy wrote:
Doing something really silly, which erased /var/lib/rpm/. Sigh.
Found http://www.sharp-tools.net/archives/000765.html which talks about
recovering from an erasure by using a log file /var/lib/rpmpkgs that a
cron job
On 09/25/2011 05:45 AM, Terry Barnaby wrote:
Anyone know why the NFS write performance with Fedora14 may be slow (without
async) ?
I have Gigabit networking which is all working fine and the systems in
question
have been running Fedora in various forms for many years.
I found NFSv4 to be
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 03:34:34PM +0200, suvayu ali wrote:
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote:
Native Linux 64-bit binaries are available.
Not quite:
$ sudo yum history info 337
...
Command Line : update google-talkplugin
...
Packages
suvayu ali wrote:
Not quite:
Yes, quite. Please don't snip my e-mails to exclude vital information.
$ ldd /opt/google/talkplugin/libnpgoogletalk64.so
linux-vdso.so.1 = (0x76562000)
libdl.so.2 = /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x7f48f6ead000)
libpthread.so.0 =
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 03:01:16PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
This is of no use whatsoever in this situation, it doesn't help
reconstructing the accidentally erased rpmdb contents.
suggestions elided
Hmm...single point of failure...Bad Thing(TM).
If this can cause a system to become
On 09/26/2011 08:49 AM, Dave Ihnat wrote:
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 03:01:16PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
This is of no use whatsoever in this situation, it doesn't help
reconstructing the accidentally erased rpmdb contents.
suggestions elided
Hmm...single point of failure...Bad Thing(TM).
On Mon September 26 2011, Ian Malone wrote:
On the basis that you need to laugh every so often.
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/AppletsTransition:
Desktop design copouts
Then there are applets that are about making it marginally faster to
do things that should be obvious and fast to do
On 09/26/2011 04:19 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote:
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 03:01:16PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
This is of no use whatsoever in this situation, it doesn't help
reconstructing the accidentally erased rpmdb contents.
suggestions elided
Hmm...single point of failure...Bad Thing(TM).
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 09:08:35AM -0430, Robert Marcano wrote:
It is not a single point of failure, your system works even with the rpm
database erased, you lose the ability to use rpm appropriately, that is
all.
That's a failure, at least in a production environment; if you can't apply
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 08:52 -0500, Dave Ihnat wrote:
Reinstallation is not really what anyone would call a production recovery.
For one thing, it brings a system back in a virgin state, with any
generated critical data lost.
Now if you backup correctly. You may somehow lose small amounts of
Am 23.09.2011 16:55, schrieb JB:
Reindl Harald h.reindl at thelounge.net writes:
...
P.S.: the peopole who decided to moderate my mails to the list
should consider revert this or push them a little faster instead
of days and weeks later or silently drop them
normally a moderated list
Am 23.09.2011 19:32, schrieb Joe Zeff:
On 09/21/2011 11:42 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
please try yum update and post output, witout exactly outputs
everybody must guess waht you mean, anyways ntfsprogs gets
some replaces updates the last time what yum would show in
a clean way
Whatever makes
Am 24.09.2011 03:22, schrieb Craig White:
On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 06:16 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 18.09.2011 02:21, schrieb Craig White:
People who are getting worked up about the current state of GNOME 3 are
just being stupid... they have other DM's to choose from
this is a dumb
Am 24.09.2011 13:46, schrieb Craig White:
Whether people are programmers or not is decidedly not the point here.
The GNOME developers have made a decision to revamp the UI to account
for the fact that computers are extending beyond the model borne out of
Xerox PARC... a keyboard, screen and
Am 24.09.2011 16:26, schrieb Genes MailLists:
Its not the users - its the vehicle - when I'm using a phone/tablet
i'll use the tablet version... when I'm using my multi core server I
have no touch sensitive screen ... when I'm flying a plane I'll use
different controls than driving a car
Am 24.09.2011 19:23, schrieb pct...@mybellybutton.com:
I find it ironic that the people that were screaming about KDE when they went
this route are
defending Gnome for going the same route.
i do not!
why?
because it has taken years to get the epic-fail of KDE 4.0 corrected
one
Am 25.09.2011 11:13, schrieb Alexander Volovics:
And all these other 'changes' making laptops much more
difficult to use, such as say
- UEFI
only for multi-boot systems
in times of virtualization where you can even run an ESXi5 in
VMware-Workstation and inside this x86_64 guests with good
Am 26.09.2011 15:19, schrieb Dave Ihnat:
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 03:01:16PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
This is of no use whatsoever in this situation, it doesn't help
reconstructing the accidentally erased rpmdb contents.
suggestions elided
Hmm...single point of failure...Bad
On 09/26/2011 08:48 AM, John Aldrich wrote:
On Mon September 26 2011, Ian Malone wrote:
On the basis that you need to laugh every so often.
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/AppletsTransition:
Desktop design copouts
Then there are applets that are about making it marginally faster to
do
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:19:28 -0500
Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 03:01:16PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
This is of no use whatsoever in this situation, it doesn't help
reconstructing the accidentally erased rpmdb contents.
suggestions elided
Hmm...single
This morning I decided to try the various desktop environments available
to me, just to see how I react to each. Now nothing I am going to say is
designed to knock any particular environment. By now everyone knows I
have a number of complaints about Gnome 3.
So this morning I tried to get around
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:11:38 -0500
Aaron Konstam wrote:
In each case, some time must be spent initially
to figure out how to do things.
For great fun, try running ubuntu unity: It has
drunk the mac koolaid and moved the menubar out
of all the apps, but to make things even more
interesting, it
Hello,
I have been using Fedora (KDE spin) for quite some time.
There was absolutely no problem till Fedora 14. But now when I try
to install Fedora 15, the live CD does not boot. I have tried Gnome
Live CD and also the DVD. I even tried the pre-upgrade procedure.
All give the same
On Mon September 26 2011, Michael Ekstrand wrote:
Actually, the point is that they *are* core functions, and should
therefore not need an applet to be efficient and discoverable.
Ahh... Gotcha.
Log out and lock screen are built in to the shell (account menu at top
right, keyboard
On 09/26/2011 05:39 PM, Vijayan wrote:
All give the same result. The CD/DVD begins to boot, some text
messages appear and finally the CD/DVD activity stops with the
line [ 1.319497] [c040377e] kernel_thread_helper+0*6*0*10.
You can always try to add the acpi=off as kernel parameter.
(Any key
kernel-2.6.35.14-96.fc14.i686
During boot, when the time comes for fsck'ing
the file systems, whatever script is doing that,
is exiting with an error status, even though no
errors are displayed, and I am prompted to either
enter the root password, or type Contrl-D to continue.
Cntrl-D simply
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 17:49 +, JB wrote:
Aaron Konstam akonstam at sbcglobal.net writes:
...
So this morning I tried to get around in LXDE and KDE. I found I quickly
got lost in both.
Will try to help :-)
In LXDE I could not get LXTerm (I think that its name)
to be anything
On 09/26/2011 03:28 AM, Tim wrote:
But it's not just*a* fan, you have PSU fans, CPU fans, and sometimes a
case fan. A box with one large fan ducted to all the other heatsinks
makes things a lot quieter, and more reliable.
I don't know about anybody else on this list, but that suggestion
On 09/26/2011 09:11 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
So this morning I tried to get around in LXDE and KDE. I found I quickly
got lost in both.
Try XFCE. You may find it easier to use, and in any case I'd be
interested in your opinion of it.
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To
On 09/26/2011 11:59 AM, JD wrote:
kernel-2.6.35.14-96.fc14.i686
During boot, when the time comes for fsck'ing
the file systems, whatever script is doing that,
is exiting with an error status, even though no
errors are displayed, and I am prompted to either
enter the root password, or type
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:01:51 -0500
Aaron Konstam wrote:
It is not to big a problem. But being simple minded I want an entry
called Shutdown. To me Shutdown is not a subset of logout.
Yea, this has crazy variants everywhere. To me, restart is not
a variant of shutdown either, yet the vast
On 09/26/2011 12:13 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
Yea, this has crazy variants everywhere. To me, restart is not
a variant of shutdown either, yet the vast majority of menu configs
seem to want me to click shutdown so I can then click restart.
It could be worse. You could have to click on Start to
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 11:43 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 09/26/2011 09:11 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
So this morning I tried to get around in LXDE and KDE. I found I quickly
got lost in both.
Try XFCE. You may find it easier to use, and in any case I'd be
interested in your opinion of it.
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 12:49 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 09/26/2011 12:13 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
Yea, this has crazy variants everywhere. To me, restart is not
a variant of shutdown either, yet the vast majority of menu configs
seem to want me to click shutdown so I can then click restart.
On 09/26/2011 12:09 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/26/2011 11:59 AM, JD wrote:
kernel-2.6.35.14-96.fc14.i686
During boot, when the time comes for fsck'ing
the file systems, whatever script is doing that,
is exiting with an error status, even though no
errors are displayed, and I am prompted
On 26/09/11 16:19, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 11:43 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 09/26/2011 09:11 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
So this morning I tried to get around in LXDE and KDE. I found I quickly
got lost in both.
Try XFCE. You may find it easier to use, and in any case I'd be
Ok, I tried XFCE. I find it far superior to LXDE. You can find things in
a reasonable fashion. It shares with LXDE the problem of not being able
to change the backgrounds. I think people who balk at Gnome 3 would find
it easy to use. Adding things to the panel are much easier than with
On 09/26/2011 01:08 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
On 09/25/2011 05:45 AM, Terry Barnaby wrote:
Anyone know why the NFS write performance with Fedora14 may be slow (without
async) ?
I have Gigabit networking which is all working fine and the systems in
question
have been running Fedora
On 09/26/2011 01:35 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
If I understand, right click on desk top or terminal to
change color, image, etc.
Bob
The problem is there's no way to browse for an image, you're stuck with
the stock ones unless you know where they're stored
On 09/26/2011 01:25 PM, JD wrote:
On 09/26/2011 12:09 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/26/2011 11:59 AM, JD wrote:
kernel-2.6.35.14-96.fc14.i686
During boot, when the time comes for fsck'ing
the file systems, whatever script is doing that,
is exiting with an error status, even though no
I am trying to build an older version of X Server on Fedora 15 to
allow me to run a legacy application. Fedora 8, which functions
correctly for our application, will not install on a new computer for
some reason, presumably because the new hardware uses UEFI, and Fedora
15 does not correctly run
On 09/26/2011 09:49 PM, Doug Kuvaas wrote:
I am trying to build an older version of X Server on Fedora 15 to
allow me to run a legacy application. Fedora 8, which functions
correctly for our application, will not install on a new computer for
some reason, presumably because the new hardware
On 09/26/2011 01:49 PM, Doug Kuvaas wrote:
I am trying to build an older version of X Server on Fedora 15 to
allow me to run a legacy application. Fedora 8, which functions
correctly for our application, will not install on a new computer for
some reason, presumably because the new hardware
On 26/09/11 16:48, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 09/26/2011 01:35 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
If I understand, right click on desk top or terminal to
change color, image, etc.
Bob
The problem is there's no way to browse for an image, you're stuck with
the stock
On 09/26/2011 01:48 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 09/26/2011 01:35 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
If I understand, right click on desk top or terminal to
change color, image, etc.
Bob
The problem is there's no way to browse for an image, you're stuck with
the
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Terry Barnaby ter...@beam.ltd.uk wrote:
On 09/26/2011 09:49 PM, Doug Kuvaas wrote:
I am trying to build an older version of X Server on Fedora 15 to
allow me to run a legacy application. Fedora 8, which functions
correctly for our application, will not
On 09/26/2011 01:49 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/26/2011 01:25 PM, JD wrote:
On 09/26/2011 12:09 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/26/2011 11:59 AM, JD wrote:
kernel-2.6.35.14-96.fc14.i686
During boot, when the time comes for fsck'ing
the file systems, whatever script is doing that,
is
On Mon September 26 2011, Aaron Konstam wrote:
Ok, I tried XFCE. I find it far superior to LXDE. You can find things in
a reasonable fashion. It shares with LXDE the problem of not being able
to change the backgrounds. I think people who balk at Gnome 3 would find
it easy to use. Adding
On 26/09/11 19:38, Andrew Haley wrote:
On 09/22/2011 02:15 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them
free and one can make a strong case that therefore Fedora developers
have no responsibility to listen to user's complaints.
However, the
On 09/26/2011 11:11 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
This morning I decided to try the various desktop environments available
to me, just to see how I react to each. Now nothing I am going to say is
designed to knock any particular environment. By now everyone knows I
have a number of complaints about
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 5:59 PM, George R Goffe grgo...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to figure out how to upgrade to KDE-4.7 on my FC 14 system.
Could someone give me a hint/clue please?
Regards and thanks,
George...
You could try rebuild from source RPMS of the version you need. When
you
On 26/09/11 19:38, Andrew Haley wrote:
On 09/22/2011 02:15 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them
free and one can make a strong case that therefore Fedora developers
have no responsibility to listen to user's complaints.
However, the
Hi,
I'm trying to figure out how to upgrade to KDE-4.7 on my FC 14 system.
Could someone give me a hint/clue please?
Regards and thanks,
George...
It's not what you know that hurts you, It's what you know that ain't so. Wil
Rogers... Wil would say, STIFF THE FED!!!--
users mailing list
Re: fans seems to work fine It's not enough that they spin...
I've not really wanted to
get into the expense of trying a liquid cooled system. But the idea of
a silent system, one using heatpipes and massive heatsinks appeals to
me, because I miss having a silent workroom.
I think the
On 09/26/2011 04:38 PM, Linda McLeod wrote:
What if someone built a tower in a cylinder shape..?
There's a company that specializes in doing exactly that, but I think
you'll find their products to be a tad pricy: Cray.
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On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
The problem is there's no way to browse for an image, you're stuck with
the stock ones unless you know where they're stored and add another one.
That is not correct. Just click on the + button below the shown
wallpapers, this will
On 09/26/2011 01:49 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/26/2011 01:25 PM, JD wrote:
On 09/26/2011 12:09 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/26/2011 11:59 AM, JD wrote:
kernel-2.6.35.14-96.fc14.i686
During boot, when the time comes for fsck'ing
the file systems, whatever script is doing that,
is
On 09/26/2011 05:55 PM, JD wrote:
On 09/26/2011 01:49 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/26/2011 01:25 PM, JD wrote:
On 09/26/2011 12:09 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/26/2011 11:59 AM, JD wrote:
kernel-2.6.35.14-96.fc14.i686
During boot, when the time comes for fsck'ing
the file systems,
On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 09:17 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 24.09.2011 03:22, schrieb Craig White:
clearly the best way not to interrupt your workflow is not to upgrade at
all... who is being stupid here?
so you recommend in other words using F4 after EOL in december this year
eith all
On 09/26/2011 06:07 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/26/2011 05:55 PM, JD wrote:
On 09/26/2011 01:49 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/26/2011 01:25 PM, JD wrote:
On 09/26/2011 12:09 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/26/2011 11:59 AM, JD wrote:
kernel-2.6.35.14-96.fc14.i686
During boot, when the time
On 09/26/2011 06:29 PM, JD wrote:
On 09/26/2011 06:07 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/26/2011 05:55 PM, JD wrote:
On 09/26/2011 01:49 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/26/2011 01:25 PM, JD wrote:
On 09/26/2011 12:09 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/26/2011 11:59 AM, JD wrote:
On 09/26/2011 06:49 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/26/2011 06:29 PM, JD wrote:
On 09/26/2011 06:07 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/26/2011 05:55 PM, JD wrote:
On 09/26/2011 01:49 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/26/2011 01:25 PM, JD wrote:
On 09/26/2011 12:09 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 09/26/2011
hello everyone,
i am using fedora 14 and trying to share git projects over http.
to create the projects are quite easy, install gitweb too,
the problem is what to do on /etc/gitweb.conf and
/etc/httpd/conf.d/git.conf in order to point to a folder with some git
projects inside.
any help is
On Mon September 26 2011, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 09/26/2011 01:35 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
If I understand, right click on desk top or terminal to
change color, image, etc.
Bob
The problem is there's no way to browse for an image, you're
Hello to all:
I have a HP Pavilion dv6-3225dx that was installed with Win7 and I am
trying to dual-boot with F14. I've managed to do that, but I am seeing
totally wacko action out of the mouse (which is a touchpad with a
movement area and two buttons below). The long and short of it is
On 09/26/2011 10:15 PM, Doug Kuvaas wrote:
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Terry Barnabyter...@beam.ltd.uk wrote:
On 09/26/2011 09:49 PM, Doug Kuvaas wrote:
I am trying to build an older version of X Server on Fedora 15 to
allow me to run a legacy application. Fedora 8, which functions
X11 is supposed to be upwards binary compatible. If it won't run old
applications, you should file a bug with Fedora. If you can figure
out what the difference is between the old X and the new X that
enables your app to run on the old X, mention that in your bug report.
--
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