1.9.2011 16:12, Tim kirjoitti:
I've often wondered how such languages are typed. Whether the keys
pressed to construct a character relate to drawing certain shaped lines
in certain places (a stroke here, a stroke there), some sort spelling
out the word that the character represents,
Both of
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 04:17:00PM -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
I don't think I've hit the freezing-emacs bug. What triggers it?
What's the BZ #?
In my case it happens whenever the Emacs window is minimized and then
reopened. I have to maximize it and then select a buffer each time to
get it
I have FC15 on three machines with different hardware - different CPUs,
different graphics hardware. As installed, all three were kinda OK.
After recent updates all three now take about 5 seconds to change
windows. A warning box popping up is a minimum 10s activity - 5 seconds
to appear, and
On 08/31/2011 09:02 PM, Tim wrote:
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 12:36 -0600, Julius Smith wrote:
using the mouse is slow, so we need to be able to define a shortcut
for everything.
And how are you going to remember them all? Or have enough keys to give
everything a unique hotkey.
I can only ever
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 08:19 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 04:17:00PM -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
I don't think I've hit the freezing-emacs bug. What triggers it?
What's the BZ #?
In my case it happens whenever the Emacs window is minimized and then
reopened.
].
Is there any way to go back to GNOME 2 on Fedora 15? Can I reuse the
F14 rpms? Or can I rebuild the F14 srpms on my F15 system?
Or perhaps someone else has already done this work and made GNOME 2
available for F15?
You have two ways to go, either learn to love gnome or quit gnome :-(
Not quite
On 08/29/2011 05:23 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1].
I still remember the times when KDE4 was born. It was terrible comparing
to 3.5. After a while it was started to evolved, it became more stable
and more user friendly.
Seems
On 08/30/2011 06:05 AM, Steve Underwood wrote:
On 08/30/2011 08:24 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 08/29/2011 05:08 PM, Steve Underwood wrote:
What makes you say its designed for tablets? Its design seems far less
suitable for a tablet than a desktop.
The basic layout, the loss of the second panel and
On 08/30/2011 06:05 AM, Steve Underwood wrote:
You could certainly interpret the look as being inspired by a tablet,
but the total inability to use it without a very steady hand makes
totally unsuitable for portable devices. Its clearly inspired by the
Marquis de Sade.
Not having actually
On 08/30/2011 11:36 AM, Julius Smith wrote:
I found alacarte, gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu,
etc., to recover lost functionality.
Right now, I'm running XFCE 4.6 on my desktop, but I've used a
third-party repo to upgrade my laptop to 4.8. (I'm always a tad more
careful with
On 08/29/2011 09:23 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 29.08.2011, Dave Cross wrote:
I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1].
Seems nobody likes it (me included). Frankly, Gnome3 is broken by design and
a f*cking piece of cr*p :-)
All the students at my college who
On 08/30/2011 05:30 AM, gpe wrote:
On 08/29/2011 05:23 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1].
I still remember the times when KDE4 was born. It was terrible comparing
to 3.5. After a while it was started to evolved, it became more
I like to know , that its the function of the gnome with fedora 15
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On 08/30/2011 12:30 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
XFCE:
1) Does XFCE allow creation of new panels, left/right/top(or bottom)
with features such as hiding panels which appears only when the
mouse is moved into the screen edges?
Yes, it does. From the Main Menu, go to Preference,
On 08/30/2011 12:05 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 08/30/2011 11:36 AM, Julius Smith wrote:
I found alacarte, gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu,
etc., to recover lost functionality.
Right now, I'm running XFCE 4.6 on my desktop, but I've used a
third-party repo to upgrade my laptop to
On 08/30/2011 12:48 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
Good idea, a Gnome-2 to Gnome-3 migration tool? This might work if
done as an upgrade, but can this tool be smart enough to ask if one
wishes to import after a fresh install, be it a partition or virtual
space?
I don't see why not. All it has
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:38:16 +0100
Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there any way to go back to GNOME 2 on Fedora 15? Can I reuse the
F14 rpms? Or can I rebuild the F14 srpms on my F15 system?
Or perhaps someone else has already done this work and made GNOME 2
available for F15
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 12:36 -0600, Julius Smith wrote:
I disliked the decision to simplify things in GNOME 3, but on the
whole I find it more productive than GNOME 2. Things got better once
I found alacarte, gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu,
etc., to recover lost functionality.
On 08/30/2011 12:41 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 08/30/2011 12:30 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
XFCE:
1) Does XFCE allow creation of new panels, left/right/top(or bottom)
with features such as hiding panels which appears only when the
mouse is moved into the screen edges?
Yes, it does.
On 08/30/2011 12:59 PM, stan wrote:
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:38:16 +0100
Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there any way to go back to GNOME 2 on Fedora 15? Can I reuse the
F14 rpms? Or can I rebuild the F14 srpms on my F15 system?
Or perhaps someone else has already done this work
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:45:26 -0500
Jorge Rivera jriv...@tpmex.com wrote:
I like to know , that its the function of the gnome with fedora 15
Your question renders as without meaning, not clear, in English. So you
probably won't get any responses. I think there is a Spanish list for
Fedora.
On 08/31/2011 02:36 AM, Julius Smith wrote:
I disliked the decision to simplify things in GNOME 3, but on the
whole I find it more productive than GNOME 2. Things got better once
I have FC15 on three machines with different hardware - different CPUs,
different graphics hardware. As installed,
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Steve Underwood ste...@coppice.org wrote:
I have FC15 on three machines with different hardware - different CPUs,
different graphics hardware. As installed, all three were kinda OK.
After recent updates all three now take about 5 seconds to change
windows. A
If you are referring to my general comments re. GNOME 3, then yes, that's on
Fedora 15. - jos
2011/8/30 Jorge Rivera jriv...@tpmex.com
I like to know , that its the function of the gnome with fedora 15
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I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1].
Is there any way to go back to GNOME 2 on Fedora 15? Can I reuse the
F14 rpms? Or can I rebuild the F14 srpms on my F15 system?
Or perhaps someone else has already done this work and made GNOME 2
available for F15?
Cheers
On 08/29/2011 03:08 PM, Dave Cross wrote:
I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1].
Is there any way to go back to GNOME 2 on Fedora 15? Can I reuse the
F14 rpms? Or can I rebuild the F14 srpms on my F15 system?
Or perhaps someone else has already done
On 29/08/11 11:38, Dave Cross wrote:
I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1].
Is there any way to go back to GNOME 2 on Fedora 15? Can I reuse the
F14 rpms? Or can I rebuild the F14 srpms on my F15 system?
Or perhaps someone else has already done this work
Erik P. Olsen wrote:
On 29/08/11 11:38, Dave Cross wrote:
I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1].
Is there any way to go back to GNOME 2 on Fedora 15? Can I reuse the
F14 rpms? Or can I rebuild the F14 srpms on my F15 system?
Or perhaps someone else has
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:38:16 +0100,
Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote:
I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1].
Is there any way to go back to GNOME 2 on Fedora 15? Can I reuse the
F14 rpms? Or can I rebuild the F14 srpms on my F15 system?
Or perhaps
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:46:35AM +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
On 29/08/11 11:38, Dave Cross wrote:
I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1].
Is there any way to go back to GNOME 2 on Fedora 15? Can I reuse the
F14 rpms? Or can I rebuild the F14 srpms on my
On 08/29/2011 09:36 AM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:46:35AM +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
On 29/08/11 11:38, Dave Cross wrote:
I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1].
Is there any way to go back to GNOME 2 on Fedora 15? Can I reuse
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:15 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Note that GNOME 2.x won't get any security updates which might be
something you need to keep in mind. This is part of the reason that
Fedora along with other distros will have to move to follow GNOME 3.x
releases.
One wonders how this
On 29.08.2011, Dave Cross wrote:
I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1].
Seems nobody likes it (me included). Frankly, Gnome3 is broken by design and
a f*cking piece of cr*p :-)
All the students at my college who use(d) Linux/Gnome2 before have switched, and
On 08/29/2011 09:32 PM, Tim wrote:
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:15 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Note that GNOME 2.x won't get any security updates which might be
something you need to keep in mind. This is part of the reason that
Fedora along with other distros will have to move to follow GNOME
On 08/29/2011 03:36 AM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote:
Personally I'm now using XFCE.
As am I. I wonder how many people are walking away from Gnome because
they don't want to use a UI designed for a tablet on their desktop or
laptop?
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:46:46 -0700
Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
On 08/29/2011 03:36 AM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote:
Personally I'm now using XFCE.
As am I. I wonder how many people are walking away from Gnome because
they don't want to use a UI designed for a tablet on their desktop or
On 08/29/2011 06:38 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 08/29/2011 09:32 PM, Tim wrote:
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:15 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Note that GNOME 2.x won't get any security updates which might be
something you need to keep in mind. This is part of the reason that
Fedora along with
On 08/29/2011 10:29 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
It's opensource - Everybody has the liberty to take these $$$-OSes
source packages and to adopt them for ones needs, rsp. to submit these
packages back into Fedora.
In theory, yes. In practise, not many people are typically interested
in doing
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:02:14 -0500 Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au
wrote:
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:15 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Note that GNOME 2.x won't get any security updates which might be
something you need to keep in mind. This is part of the reason that
Fedora along with
On 08/29/2011 12:38 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 08/29/2011 09:32 PM, Tim wrote:
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:15 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Note that GNOME 2.x won't get any security updates which might be
something you need to keep in mind. This is part of the reason that
Fedora along with
On 08/29/2011 11:53 PM, Chris Kloiber wrote:
There is nothing to backport, as those changes are taken from upstream,
which no longer exists.
That depends. Nautilus exists. Metacity bug fixes probably are common
to Mutter and sometimes patches will have to be written from scratch as well
Am 29.08.2011 20:23, schrieb Chris Kloiber:
On 08/29/2011 12:38 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 08/29/2011 09:32 PM, Tim wrote:
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:15 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Note that GNOME 2.x won't get any security updates which might be
something you need to keep in mind. This
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 13:28:25 -0500 Reindl Harald
h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
Am 29.08.2011 20:23, schrieb Chris Kloiber:
On 08/29/2011 12:38 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 08/29/2011 09:32 PM, Tim wrote:
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:15 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Note that GNOME 2.x
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:02, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
In the short run you can use fallback mode, which has a very similar feel
to gnome 2. In the long run, no one has started a gnome 2 fork
Oh really? ;-)
A Fork Of GNOME 2: The Mate Desktop
Posted by Michael Larabel on August
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 16:12, Ranjan Maitra mai...@iastate.edu wrote:
Perhaps XFCE?
I use LXDE, but I don't know if it could be considered to have
functionality.
I've pulled my hair trying to tweak LXDE. I've found XFCE is much
better, with similiar low memory requirements but without the
On 08/29/2011 12:58 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
Power and memory requirements of KDE, Gnome, XFCE and LXDE compared
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_desktop_vitalsnum=1
This is with Gnome 2.29.1 and XFCE 4.6. I'd like to see Gnome 3 and
XFCE 4.8 compared this way.
--
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 16:50:01 -0300,
Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:
A Fork Of GNOME 2: The Mate Desktop
I usually read Phoronix, but I missed that article.
That provides an opportunity for someone to package it for Fedora.
There still could be issues with doing so, but at least
On 08/30/2011 12:46 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 08/29/2011 03:36 AM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote:
Personally I'm now using XFCE.
As am I. I wonder how many people are walking away from Gnome because
they don't want to use a UI designed for a tablet on their desktop or
laptop?
What makes you say its
On 08/29/2011 05:08 PM, Steve Underwood wrote:
What makes you say its designed for tablets? Its design seems far less
suitable for a tablet than a desktop.
The basic layout, the loss of the second panel and the dependence on
gestures all sounds like something designed for a tablet, or at
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