[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt alternatives

2022-02-22 Thread Michal Skrivanek
> On 22. 2. 2022, at 14:16, Roman Mohr wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 1:25 PM Thomas Hoberg > wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 9:48 AM Simone Tiraboschi > > > wrote: > > > > > > Just to clarify the state of things a little: It is

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2022-02-22 Thread Thomas Hoberg
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 1:25 PM Thomas Hoberg k8s does not dictate anything regarding the workload. There is just a > scheduler which can or can not schedule your workload to nodes. > One of these days I'll have to dig deep and see what it does. "Scheduling" can encompass quite a few

[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt alternatives

2022-02-22 Thread Roman Mohr
On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 1:25 PM Thomas Hoberg wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 9:48 AM Simone Tiraboschi > > wrote: > > > > > > Just to clarify the state of things a little: It is not only technically > > there. KubeVirt supports pci passthrough, GPU passthrough and > > SRIOV (including

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2022-02-22 Thread Thomas Hoberg
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 9:48 AM Simone Tiraboschi wrote: > > > Just to clarify the state of things a little: It is not only technically > there. KubeVirt supports pci passthrough, GPU passthrough and > SRIOV (including live-migration for SRIOV). I can't say if the OpenShift UI > can compete

[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt alternatives

2022-02-22 Thread Roman Mohr
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 12:27 PM Thomas Hoberg wrote: > That's exactly the direction I originally understood oVirt would go, with > the ability to run VMs and container side-by-side on the bare metal or > nested with containers inside VMs for stronger resource or security > isolation and network

[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt alternatives

2022-02-22 Thread Roman Mohr
On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 9:48 AM Simone Tiraboschi wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 12:27 PM Thomas Hoberg wrote: > >> That's exactly the direction I originally understood oVirt would go, with >> the ability to run VMs and container side-by-side on the bare metal or >> nested with containers

[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt alternatives

2022-02-22 Thread Simone Tiraboschi
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 12:27 PM Thomas Hoberg wrote: > That's exactly the direction I originally understood oVirt would go, with > the ability to run VMs and container side-by-side on the bare metal or > nested with containers inside VMs for stronger resource or security > isolation and network

[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt alternatives

2022-02-21 Thread Thomas Hoberg
That's exactly the direction I originally understood oVirt would go, with the ability to run VMs and container side-by-side on the bare metal or nested with containers inside VMs for stronger resource or security isolation and network virtualization. To me it sounded especially attractive with

[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt alternatives

2022-02-21 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il giorno lun 21 feb 2022 alle ore 09:18 Nathanaël Blanchet < blanc...@abes.fr> ha scritto: > > > Le 21 févr. 2022 08:31, Sandro Bonazzola a écrit : > > > > Il giorno dom 20 feb 2022 alle ore 22:47 Nathanaël Blanchet < > blanc...@abes.fr> ha scritto: > > Hello, Is okd/openshift virtualization

[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt alternatives

2022-02-21 Thread Angus Clarke
: users Subject: [ovirt-users] Re: oVirt alternatives Il giorno dom 20 feb 2022 alle ore 22:47 Nathanaël Blanchet mailto:blanc...@abes.fr>> ha scritto: Hello, Is okd/openshift virtualization designed to be a full replacement of ovirt/redhat by embedding the same level of advanced oVirt is

[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt alternatives

2022-02-21 Thread Nathanaël Blanchet
Le 21 févr. 2022 08:31, Sandro Bonazzola a écrit :Il giorno dom 20 feb 2022 alle ore 22:47 Nathanaël Blanchet ha scritto:Hello, Is okd/openshift virtualization designed to be a full replacement of ovirt/redhat by embedding the same level of advancedoVirt is a very mature

[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt alternatives

2022-02-20 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il giorno dom 20 feb 2022 alle ore 22:47 Nathanaël Blanchet < blanc...@abes.fr> ha scritto: > Hello, Is okd/openshift virtualization designed to be a full replacement > of ovirt/redhat by embedding the same level of advanced > oVirt is a very mature project, integrated with most of the Red Hat

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2022-02-20 Thread Strahil Nikolov via Users
Openshift/Kubernetes virtualization is not as feature-rich as oVirt (based on what I read). Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 23:49, Nathanaël Blanchet wrote: ___ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an

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2022-02-20 Thread Nathanaël Blanchet
Hello, Is okd/openshift virtualization designed to be a full replacement of ovirt/redhat by embedding the same level of advanced Il giorno dom 6 feb 2022 alle ore 14:06 Wesley Stewart ha scritto: > Has anyone tried the open shift upstream old? Looks like they support > virtualization now.

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2022-02-20 Thread Wesley Stewart
Thanks, I'll check them out. On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 3:56 AM Sandro Bonazzola wrote: > > > Il giorno dom 6 feb 2022 alle ore 14:06 Wesley Stewart < > wstewa...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > >> Has anyone tried the open shift upstream old? Looks like they support >> virtualization now. Which I'm

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2022-02-07 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il giorno dom 6 feb 2022 alle ore 14:06 Wesley Stewart ha scritto: > Has anyone tried the open shift upstream old? Looks like they support > virtualization now. Which I'm guessing is the upstream for openshift > virtualization? > > https://docs.okd.io/latest/virt/about-virt.html > I gave a

[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt alternatives

2022-02-07 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il giorno sab 5 feb 2022 alle ore 13:42 Thomas Hoberg ha scritto: > There is unfortunately no formal announcement on the fate of oVirt, but > with RHGS and RHV having a known end-of-life, oVirt may well shut down in > Q2. > I believe the fate of oVirt has been discussed already several times

[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt alternatives

2022-02-06 Thread Wesley Stewart
Good insight. I use containers a lot, but the virtualization sections are surely separate? I might have to try out a node and see how it goes. On Sun, Feb 6, 2022, 12:25 PM Strahil Nikolov wrote: > I've setup a test cluster with Kadalu (which is actually conternerized > GlusterFS) for

[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt alternatives

2022-02-06 Thread Strahil Nikolov via Users
I've setup a test cluster with Kadalu (which is actually conternerized GlusterFS) for storage. To be honest, it is far more complex. I remember my first day with oVirt -> the UI doesn't need any explanation, while working with OKD requires at least some knowledge in the terminology of the k8s

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2022-02-06 Thread Wesley Stewart
Sorry autocorrect on a cellphone. Has anyone tried the openshift upstream okd?* On Sun, Feb 6, 2022, 8:04 AM Wesley Stewart wrote: > Has anyone tried the open shift upstream old? Looks like they support > virtualization now. Which I'm guessing is the upstream for openshift > virtualization?

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2022-02-06 Thread Wesley Stewart
Has anyone tried the open shift upstream old? Looks like they support virtualization now. Which I'm guessing is the upstream for openshift virtualization? https://docs.okd.io/latest/virt/about-virt.html On Sat, Feb 5, 2022, 10:34 PM Alex McWhirter wrote: > Oh i have spent years looking. >

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2022-02-06 Thread Florian Schmid via Users
Hi We have been using LXC, before we went to oVirt 4.0. We started with 3.6, but production use was 4.0. The problem we had with LXC was the missing live migration feature and the biggest issue was the shared storage on NFS. With all the hundred millions of files on the NFS storage, the

[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt alternatives

2022-02-06 Thread Thomas Hoberg
> Oh i have spent years looking. > > ProxMox is probably the closest option, but has no multi-clustering > support. The clusters are more or less isolated from each other, and > would need another layer if you needed the ability to migrate between > them. Also been looking at ProxMox for ages.

[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt alternatives

2022-02-06 Thread Nathaniel Roach via Users
Just a point of clarification here - Hyper-V as a standalone ISO is EOL - the technology and services will continue in the main distribution. On 5/2/22 21:03, marcel d'heureuse wrote: Moin, We will take a look into proxmox. Hyper v is also eol, if server server2022 is standard. Br Marcel

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2022-02-05 Thread Thomas Hoberg
> I wonder if Oracle would not be interested in keeping the ovirt. It will > really be too bad that ovirt is discontinued. > > https://docs.oracle.com/en/virtualization/oracle-linux-virtualization-man... > > > Em sáb., 5 de fev. de 2022 09:43, Thomas Hoberg escreveu: I've been looking there,

[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt alternatives

2022-02-05 Thread Sketch
On Sat, 5 Feb 2022, Alex McWhirter wrote: ProxMox is probably the closest option, but has no multi-clustering support. The clusters are more or less isolated from each other, and would need another layer if you needed the ability to migrate between them. It's also Debian-based, so if you're

[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt alternatives

2022-02-05 Thread Alex McWhirter
Oh i have spent years looking. ProxMox is probably the closest option, but has no multi-clustering support. The clusters are more or less isolated from each other, and would need another layer if you needed the ability to migrate between them. XCP-ng, cool. No spice support. No UI for

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2022-02-05 Thread Maxlen Santos
I wonder if Oracle would not be interested in keeping the ovirt. It will really be too bad that ovirt is discontinued. https://docs.oracle.com/en/virtualization/oracle-linux-virtualization-manager/ Em sáb., 5 de fev. de 2022 09:43, Thomas Hoberg escreveu: > There is unfortunately no formal

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2022-02-05 Thread marcel d'heureuse
Moin, We will take a look into proxmox. Hyper v is also eol, if server server2022 is standard. Br Marcel Am 5. Februar 2022 13:40:30 MEZ schrieb Thomas Hoberg : >There is unfortunately no formal announcement on the fate of oVirt, but with >RHGS and RHV having a known end-of-life, oVirt may

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2022-02-05 Thread Thomas Hoberg
Xen came before KVM, but ultimately Redhat played a heavy hand to swing much of the market but with Citrix it managed to survive (so far). XCP-ng is a recent open source spin-off, which attempts to gather a larger community. Their XOSAN storage is aimed to deliver a HCI solution somewhat like