Re: RE: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-17 Thread Frank van Lankvelt
CMS or Hippo Portal? Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:12:13 +0100 Von: Frank van Lankvelt f.vanlankv...@onehippo.com An: users@wicket.apache.org Betreff: RE: Things I miss in Wicket Sure these kinds of things exist. In Hippo CMS 7, we're nesting panels

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-17 Thread Ryan
applications. I certainly won't be switching away any time soon :-) -Ryan Toby Original-Nachricht Datum: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:46:08 -0500 Von: Trevor Burnham trevorburn...@gmail.com An: Tobias Marx superoverdr...@gmx.de Betreff: Re: Things I miss in Wicket Hi Toby

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Jan Kriesten
Hi Sébastien, 1) and 2) are already implemented, or something very close exists. 3) may be a good improvement, maybe with a new wicket tag (wicket:component type=com.me.MyCustomComp /). let's see what think core developpers hehe - that one already exists, too! :D Best regards, --- Jan.

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Sébastien Piller
Sure! sorry, missed that one... Well, all requirements were already implemented :D If I were naughty, I would write rtfm ;) Jan Kriesten wrote: Hi Sébastien, 1) and 2) are already implemented, or something very close exists. 3) may be a good improvement, maybe with a new wicket tag

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Erik van Oosten
Hi Jan, Can you point to a place where this is documented? Its not on http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/wickets-xhtml-tags.html. Regards, Erik. Jan Kriesten wrote: 3) may be a good improvement, maybe with a new wicket tag (wicket:component type=com.me.MyCustomComp /). let's see what think

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Jan Kriesten
Hi Erik, Can you point to a place where this is documented? Its not on http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/wickets-xhtml-tags.html. actually, it is there. :) ---8--- Element wicket:component wicket:component - Creates a Wicket component on the fly. Needs a class attribute. Though this has been

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Erik van Oosten
Yep, I did see that. However, it does not describe the type attribute Pills described: Pills wrote: 3) may be a good improvement, maybe with a new wicket tag (wicket:component type=com.me.MyCustomComp /). let's see what think core developpers Jan Kriesten wrote Hi Erik, Can you point

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Jan Kriesten
Hi Erik, Yep, I did see that. However, it does not describe the type attribute Pills described: just replace 'type' with 'class' and you're there. Also, any other attribute you put into the wicket:component tag is looked a setter on the class for, so you can pass parameters in from you html

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Erik van Oosten
Jan Kriesten wrote: just replace 'type' with 'class' and you're there. Also, any other attribute you put into the wicket:component tag is looked a setter on the class for, so you can pass parameters in from you html code. Best regards, --- Jan. Ouch, that is ugly. Now I understand why it

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Jan Kriesten
Ouch, that is ugly. Now I understand why it is deprecated. It for sure is nothing meant to be used on a day-to-day basis, right. But there are use cases where you're happy it exists. Best regards, --- Jan. - To unsubscribe,

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Tobias Marx
Original-Nachricht Datum: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:46:08 -0500 Von: Trevor Burnham trevorburn...@gmail.com An: Tobias Marx superoverdr...@gmx.de Betreff: Re: Things I miss in Wicket Hi Toby, I've been considering creating a new project that would split away from Wicket

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Martin Makundi
...@gmail.com An: Tobias Marx superoverdr...@gmx.de Betreff: Re: Things I miss in Wicket Hi Toby, I've been considering creating a new project that would split away from Wicket, refine it and streamline it for similar reasons, particularly to reduce the number of lines of code that are needed

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Tobias Marx
having to define them in the code or some xml. Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 06:31:39 +0200 Von: Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com An: users@wicket.apache.org Betreff: Re: Things I miss in Wicket 3. Pick up components automatically without

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Richard Allen
What I don't like about Wicket is, that it is like writing normal Java applications - although rich clients applications are being replaced with web-based solutions and there is a fundamental difference between web-applications and normal java applications. If you have a java application as

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Tobias Marx
Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com An: users@wicket.apache.org Betreff: Re: Things I miss in Wicket All you need is a RAD IDE that co-operates well with the typesafe wicket. ** Martin 2009/1/16 Tobias Marx superoverdr...@gmx.de: I think there already a lot of projects out

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Martin Makundi
-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 06:31:39 +0200 Von: Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com An: users@wicket.apache.org Betreff: Re: Things I miss in Wicket 3. Pick up components automatically without needing to add them in the Java code: add(new LastPostsPanel

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Jan Kriesten
Hi Tobias, I don't agree on a couple of points you made on Wicket. Wicket is providing the GUI and you have to make sure your gluing to the backend is as transparent as it can be. So, if you have your interfaces untouched, you wont need to touch the Java code again for your 3-5 years. Also,

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Tobias Marx
scratch is often the better option in the long-term. Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:59:11 -0500 Von: Richard Allen richard.l.al...@gmail.com An: users@wicket.apache.org Betreff: Re: Things I miss in Wicket What I don't like about Wicket is, that it is like

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Martin Makundi
by design Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:53:05 +0200 Von: Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com An: users@wicket.apache.org Betreff: Re: Things I miss in Wicket All you need is a RAD IDE that co-operates well with the typesafe wicket. ** Martin

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread James Carman
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Tobias Marx superoverdr...@gmx.de wrote: What about merging Wicket and Tapestry? Similiar to Wicket with Tapestry templates? I don't think this would work very well. The Tapestry team's philosophy doesn't really work well with how the Wicket community

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Johan Compagner
An ideal web-application is developed once and the Java code is never touched again for 3-5 years until there are a lot of new features necessary where do you live? thats not my experience. Yes after a while the web app code is pretty done but then it did already run for 1 or 2 years in

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Martin Makundi
... or conscious design debt... ;) ** Martin 2009/1/16 Johan Compagner jcompag...@gmail.com: An ideal web-application is developed once and the Java code is never touched again for 3-5 years until there are a lot of new features necessary where do you live? thats not my experience.

RE: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Frank van Lankvelt
-Original Message- From: Tobias Marx [mailto:superoverdr...@gmx.de] Sent: 16 January 2009 14:10 To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: Things I miss in Wicket Brix only works the way it works because it does not need a database..with a flexible achitecture and a database

Re: RE: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Tobias Marx
Great! Are there any demo/reference websites that run Hippo CMS or Hippo Portal? Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:12:13 +0100 Von: Frank van Lankvelt f.vanlankv...@onehippo.com An: users@wicket.apache.org Betreff: RE: Things I miss in Wicket Sure these kinds

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Igor Vaynberg
...@gmail.com An: Tobias Marx superoverdr...@gmx.de Betreff: Re: Things I miss in Wicket Hi Toby, I've been considering creating a new project that would split away from Wicket, refine it and streamline it for similar reasons, particularly to reduce the number of lines of code that are needed

Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-15 Thread Tobias Marx
Hi there! There are some things in Wicket I am missing and I think they could improve the framework a lot. But just some small background first: In my opinion the most important things in a web application are: - as few lines of code as possible, as many as really necessary - separation

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-15 Thread Igor Vaynberg
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Tobias Marx superoverdr...@gmx.de wrote: Hi there! There are some things in Wicket I am missing and I think they could improve the framework a lot. But just some small background first: In my opinion the most important things in a web application are:

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-15 Thread Sébastien Piller
Hi, 1) and 2) are already implemented, or something very close exists. 3) may be a good improvement, maybe with a new wicket tag (wicket:component type=com.me.MyCustomComp /). let's see what think core developpers 1) you have various way of altering tags and attributes: attributemodifiers,

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-15 Thread Martin Makundi
3. Pick up components automatically without needing to add them in the Java code: add(new LastPostsPanel(lastPostsPanel)); add(new NewsPanel(newsPanel)); This could be matched automatically This should be accomplished using and IDE, not by default. I would not mind an IDE that could match

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-15 Thread Nick Heudecker
How are you envisioning this working from within an IDE? This sounds like an interesting feature to add. On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com wrote: 3. Pick up components automatically without needing to add them in the Java code: add(new

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-15 Thread Martin Makundi
How are you envisioning this working from within an IDE? This sounds like an interesting feature to add. Context-sensitive auto-complete, quickfix, ..., there are a lot of examples of suitable functionalities in Eclipse, for example. I have never implemented those, however. We could start