[videoblogging] Re: Rox Lumiere for Rupert

2008-01-18 Thread Heath
For the record, I don't really have any issue with Andreas making the manifesto, I will say that like Verdi and Cheryl stated, for the manefisto to come out after soliciting video's etc, put me off. I would have liked to have known that before hand. The manifesto is to a degree trying to

Re: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Charles HOPE
Steve Watkins wrote: Anarchism as it is popularly misunderstood, has a flaw in that either external or internal forces could take control and intimidate people far wose than their own government ever could. It is impossible for chaotic gangs of rabble to even dream of slaughtering or

[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Steve Watkins
Sometimes maybe but other times the regulations are there for very good reasons, such as public health. Would removing regulation of advertising benefit the honest? Deregulation of the banking sector in recent decades plays a large part in the financial nightmare that has begun. I would

[videoblogging] Disaster footage

2008-01-18 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Hello videobloggers! Sorry I've not been around much (mainly lurking) but I am working on a video project right now that needs some disaster footage, think hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards, extreme weather conditions... Also looking for some good city-scape stuff, lots of building in a big

[videoblogging] Tubemogul Inquiry

2008-01-18 Thread jt_hanner
Hi everyone, Has anyone ever had to pay to use tubemogul.com or do you know if there is a limit per month or year on how many videos you can upload? Thank you, Jill

[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is impossible for chaotic gangs of rabble to even dream of slaughtering or stealing on the scale that governments have in the 20th century. I'm pretty sure the slaughtering in a lawless society, where people are

[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of you are assuming network scarcity. Networks are only scarce when regulated by a government (FCC, USPS, et al.) Most government regulation is designed by large corporate lobbyists to thwart competition

Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast?
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 4:01 pm, noel hidalgo wrote: dear america, you are truly becoming a third world nation ruled by corporations. See, that's not the feeling I get for plans that work by charging people for bandwidth by use. This is one company picking one service to try. Customers may

[videoblogging] Alternatives to ning? (Was Re: Video a week, evolved)

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
Eh, I'll probably just use mefeedia and cross my fingers... Chris --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only other easy solution I can think of is the tagging thing - ie., everyone upload to Blip and use the same tag. Then subscribe to the rss feed for

[videoblogging] Re: A technical question:

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
Geoff, I've been using a free app called ffmpegx. It's worked pretty well so far, and you can find it here: http://homepage.mac.com/major4/ Chris --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, geoffdgeorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I recently took a trip to San Francisco, and I wanted to use some

Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Eddie Codel
You mean like the Internet? Hi Charles! On Jan 18, 2008 2:05 PM, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judging from some of the attitudes here, one might be inclined to think that vlogging was invented by the government and promoted by grants. [Non-text portions of this message have been

[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Steve Watkins
Oh come now, thats a bit of a distortion. Technology evolves, government often provides the research or the money for research that enables the foundation of the technology. In recent decades the trend is then to opn this technology up for other uses, commercialised by the private sector,

[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can see how my arguments would appear empty to anybody who can't distinguish between having benefited from and in spite of. They can observe plucky survival under harsh conditions, and credit the survival upon the

Re: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Charles HOPE
Chris wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you put honor system in quotes? I never used that phrase. It wasn't the honor system or any other sort of kindness that put cheap cell phones in the hands of nearly everybody in the West, rich

RE: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Mike Hudack
The Internets were largely, if I recall, developed by private companies (like BBN) under (D)ARPA grant. While the funding came from .gov, the innovation came from .com. Soon thereafter .com pretty much took over, no? -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Mike Hudack
The real world isn't black and white, even if we'd like it to be. There are varying degrees of regulation. Some regulation can be good. Stifling regulation is rarely, if ever, good. Pink unicorns may have managed to bring us a chocolate river while some regulation existed, but you'd be

RE: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Mike Hudack
While I generally agree with you that corporations are not automatically evil, that government is not automatically good and that free markets are wonderful, I still find it curious that you insist that there are no defenses of free markets reliant upon such ludicrous assumptions. I'm sure

Re: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Charles HOPE
Chris wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if I'm not willing to place implicit trust in this mystical honor system you seem to believe in, that will magically rein in these entities that have so far shown no compunctions against raping the

Re: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Charles HOPE
Chris wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Eddie! There are probably fewer than five people on this list that would find any value in the old-school ARPANET the government gave us decades ago. Everything newer than that, and the cheap

[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there some equivalent to Godwin's Law regarding free market fights? There should be. Rule Number One: You do not talk about Free Market Fight Club. ;) Chris

[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something tells me if I needed the government to do that for me it would cost $30,000 in somebody elses tax dollars, take two weeks to produce and sound like it was recorded on a Victrola ... and

[videoblogging] Alternatives to ning? (Was Re: Video a week, evolved)

2008-01-18 Thread Frank Sinton
Hi Chris, cross my fingers? :) You may want to try: http://mefeedia.com/tags/semanal08/videostream_widgets/ (this is available for any tag) We are working on developing something even better in this area, and have taken the wish list posted by Rupert on the Ning site as a starting point.

[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I, like you, had no idea how naked self-interest could paradoxically result in good quality at affordable prices, my worldview would be equally depressive. Arguments of quality and price are not the whole of the

Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Charles HOPE
Hey Eddie! There are probably fewer than five people on this list that would find any value in the old-school ARPANET the government gave us decades ago. Everything newer than that, and the cheap hardware and software that made vlogging possible, is a chocolate river brought to us by pink

Re: [videoblogging] Alternatives to ning? (Was Re: Video a week, evolved)

2008-01-18 Thread David King
The only other easy solution I can think of is the tagging thing - ie., everyone upload to Blip and use the same tag. Then subscribe to the rss feed for that search. But that breaks down if people are using YouTube or other non-blip places to upload their videos. Just some thoughts... David On

[videoblogging] Re: Fair use in the Digital Age

2008-01-18 Thread Heath
Ok we will call it a lakeside discussion ;) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay, I think this would make for an interesting panel at vloggercamp! Not only fair use, but the overall effect of linking, etc

[videoblogging] Alternatives to ning? (Was Re: Video a week, evolved)

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i dont think there are any plug and play systems you can install for group projects. Ning certainly does make it easy and they do let you customize. they own the content as far as i can see. I've no aversion to

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Fair use in the Digital Age

2008-01-18 Thread Jay dedman
I think Jay is right from the creators' perspective, but I would like to look at this from a different angle, namely the relationship between a video maker and the subject. When I ask for permission to photograph someone without a written release, I usually explain why I am taking the

[videoblogging] Re: Fair use in the Digital Age

2008-01-18 Thread Heath
Jay, I think this would make for an interesting panel at vloggercamp! Not only fair use, but the overall effect of linking, etc Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two laywers (one from NBC, the other from Columbia law

[videoblogging] Alternatives to ning? (Was Re: Video a week, evolved)

2008-01-18 Thread Steve Watkins
Ive not tried any white label social networking stuff myself but this comparison chart may be useful to you: http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/wlsn_comparison_chart.html Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

Re: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Adam Quirk
Actually this was one of the more civil discussions I've seen here in recent months, although hilariously cynical and sarcastic at points. Enjoyed reading it. Some good points all around, I learned a couple things to boot, and was confused thoroughly by others. Like, do these river-dwelling

[videoblogging] Re: Tubemogul Inquiry

2008-01-18 Thread py kim conant
I have used this Tubemogul since the last week of December. I have been able to upload videos on 12 sites once. Not paid so far. Here are some pros and cons about the Tubemogul. 1. Pros: absolutely free 2. Pros: the statistisics to show how many people watched each day on each site and

Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Brook Hinton
Is there some equivalent to Godwin's Law regarding free market fights? There should be. Brook ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab

Re: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast?
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 5:45 pm, Chris wrote: I don't think anybody, short of a few free market utopians, suggested that anybody was arguing the government should be doing everything for everybody. True, but it seems people want someone to save them if the cable company decides to charge per

[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arguments of quality and price are not the whole of the argument. There's environmental impact, fair treatment of labor and a whole lot of other factors that I don't feel an unregulated free market would adequately address.

Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Markus Sandy
On Jan 18, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Charles HOPE wrote: There are probably fewer than five people on this list that would find any value in the old-school ARPANET the government gave us decades ago. btw, who are the other four? Hey, Mr RichardShow, are you one? our particular kind of value

[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you put honor system in quotes? I never used that phrase. It wasn't the honor system or any other sort of kindness that put cheap cell phones in the hands of nearly everybody in the West, rich and poor. It

[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Eddie! There are probably fewer than five people on this list that would find any value in the old-school ARPANET the government gave us decades ago. Everything newer than that, and the cheap hardware and

Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread noel hidalgo
dear america, you are truly becoming a third world nation ruled by corporations. sincerely, noneck ps - it's great to see that after 6 months traveling the globe, america is starting to take after other innovation leaders... i for one can't wait to get back to dial up! i love pine

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Tubemogul Inquiry (and morph into for-pay services)

2008-01-18 Thread Roxanne Darling
I have been working with them for some time. I upload almost daily a new episode to cross post elsewhere. So far have not received any notices about limits or about fees. I like the convenience, the interface, and the stats (assuming they're as accurate as to be expected - but don't get me started

[videoblogging] Comparing Flash encoding across different sites

2008-01-18 Thread Charles HOPE
Here is very interesting research comparing different ways that various sites (blip.tv, Veoh, Vimeo, Google Video and YouTube) encode Flash video. http://hastalavistavista.wordpress.com/category/video-datasheets/

Re: [videoblogging] Alternatives to ning? (Was Re: Video a week, evolved)

2008-01-18 Thread Jay dedman
Are there any ning alternatives for us non-techies, for whom a customized WordPress site isn't an option? I've a hankering to set up my own vlog challenge community, but would rather run my own AdSense ads than ning's (and I don't want to pay $19.95 a month for that option).

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Fair use in the Digital Age

2008-01-18 Thread Jay dedman
Jay, I think this would make for an interesting panel at vloggercamp! Not only fair use, but the overall effect of linking, etc cool! though I think at Vloggercamp we should have no panels. we can have workshops or time to hang out and talk about these things by a lake with no wifi.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Tubemogul Inquiry

2008-01-18 Thread Jay dedman
Yes, rumors have been going around that they're about to go to a paid model. In fact, someone I know was contacted by them yesterday saying he'd gone over the submitting new limit and they wanted to discuss a paid model with him Note: They did not delete his account. To their credit, they

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Tubemogul Inquiry

2008-01-18 Thread Markus Sandy
fwiw, i met mark rotblat from tubemogul last year at a vlogger meetup i got the impression that this was intended to be a for-pay service. However, upon looking at the current site, i see nothing about pricing for more than the 10 vid limit. markus On Jan 18, 2008, at 10:24 AM, Bill Cammack

Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Markus Sandy
On Jan 18, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Charles HOPE wrote: There are probably fewer than five people on this list that would find any value in the old-school ARPANET the government gave us decades ago. Everything newer than that, and the cheap hardware and software that made vlogging

Re: [videoblogging] A technical question:

2008-01-18 Thread Markus Sandy
On Jan 18, 2008, at 2:18 PM, geoffdgeorge wrote: So, I recently took a trip to San Francisco, and I wanted to use some footage from old tourism videos of the city that I found on the Internet Archive. Most of the videos there are either MPEG-4 or MPEG- 2 files, and here's where the problem

[videoblogging] Alternatives to ning? (Was Re: Video a week, evolved)

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rupert, Zenuno, and I have been a little bothered by Ning. Dont like how it sends notifications emails without the message text (only link to site). Plus it doesnt look like we can get access to the info we're all

Re: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Charles HOPE
Steve Watkins wrote: Sometimes maybe but other times the regulations are there for very good reasons, such as public health. Would removing regulation of advertising benefit the honest? Deregulation of the banking sector in recent decades plays a large part in the financial nightmare

[videoblogging] Re: Comparing Flash encoding across different sites

2008-01-18 Thread Frank Sinton
Thanks for the link - excellent reading! We have found that the abandonment rate goes up exponentially when the user has to wait more than 3 seconds for a video to load. YouTube consistently delivers on this playback experience - partially because of their philosophy on bitrate and partially

Re: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Ron Watson
yay! Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://discdogradio.com http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 18, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Chris wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of you are assuming network scarcity. Networks are only

RE: [videoblogging] Re: Tubemogul Inquiry

2008-01-18 Thread Jim Kukral
Yes, rumors have been going around that they're about to go to a paid model. In fact, someone I know was contacted by them yesterday saying he'd gone over the submitting new limit and they wanted to discuss a paid model with him. Note: They did not delete his account. To their credit, they

[videoblogging] Re: Tubemogul Inquiry

2008-01-18 Thread Bill Cammack
I don't use Tubemogul, but a bunch of people here have mentioned that they like it. I haven't heard anything about them having a limit on their uploads or having to pay for anything. -- Bill http://BillCammack.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jt_hanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi

Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Charles HOPE
All of you are assuming network scarcity. Networks are only scarce when regulated by a government (FCC, USPS, et al.) Most government regulation is designed by large corporate lobbyists to thwart competition pressure from smaller players. Deregulation benefits the honest. David Meade wrote:

[videoblogging] Alternatives to ning? (Was Re: Video a week, evolved)

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ive not tried any white label social networking stuff myself but this comparison chart may be useful to you: http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/wlsn_comparison_chart.html Thanks, Steve. This definitely gives me

Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Charles HOPE
Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast? wrote: My cell provider gives me the option for a flat rate SMS email plan, which is one reason I use them over other providers. For every per-megabyte cable provider there will be an alternative all you can suck WiMAX or DSL provider. But surely these low

Re: [videoblogging] Re: A technical question:

2008-01-18 Thread Brook Hinton
Simpler than ffmpegx is Mpeg Streamclip. You do need to have either Compressor, DVD Studio Pro, or purchase the quicktime mpeg2 component though, but the program itself is free: www.squared5.com Basically, yes, you need to get the files out of a temporally compressed format and into something