[videoblogging] INTRO: Sunny
Howdy folks, Hello from Topanga Canyon, CA! My name is Sunny. I'd like to start doing video blogging. I filmed, edited (taught myself Final Cut Pro) and produced a 28-minute documentary last year through a local public television station. Loved the medium of film and am really wanting to start doing a video blog every other week on my website: http:// wildfoodplants.com/ You can view the documentary under my Bio. I'm going to be teaching at a wild food gathering in MN during Pixelodeon, so am going to take this opportunity to pitch. What I'm really wanting to put together is a team of people to do a video blog project. I'm planning to travel around the US highlighting folks doing wild food stuff and primitive skills. I want to show people how to do the skills, not just talk about how Joe Blow is an expert. I've got enough of the technical video nuts bolts under my belt to know that I don't want to do it all myself. Kind of the spinXpress vision that I've seen online...transfering video from the field to folks working on the project. I have secured some funding to get things going. Anyone interested? Producers, editors, musicians to mix music, webmasters, etc. I'll start to try figuring things out to post a video using iMovie. cheers, ~sunny
Re: [videoblogging] INTRO: Sunny
Hi Sunny, Welcome. Very nice site you have. I'm a little north of you in Ojai. If you're looking to meet some local vloggers, check out the LA Geek dinners. Vloggers, Barcampers and Drupalheads mainly. Good folk. There's one next week. http://barcamp.org/BarCampLA-Geek13 Hope you'll join us sometime. Also, there's a brand new page at SpinXpress where you can post notices about projects like this http://spinxpress.com/hookup Markus On May 17, 2007, at 1:37 AM, yeehawsunny wrote: Howdy folks, Hello from Topanga Canyon, CA! My name is Sunny. I'd like to start doing video blogging. I filmed, edited (taught myself Final Cut Pro) and produced a 28-minute documentary last year through a local public television station. Loved the medium of film and am really wanting to start doing a video blog every other week on my website: http:// wildfoodplants.com/ You can view the documentary under my Bio. I'm going to be teaching at a wild food gathering in MN during Pixelodeon, so am going to take this opportunity to pitch. What I'm really wanting to put together is a team of people to do a video blog project. I'm planning to travel around the US highlighting folks doing wild food stuff and primitive skills. I want to show people how to do the skills, not just talk about how Joe Blow is an expert. I've got enough of the technical video nuts bolts under my belt to know that I don't want to do it all myself. Kind of the spinXpress vision that I've seen online...transfering video from the field to folks working on the project. I have secured some funding to get things going. Anyone interested? Producers, editors, musicians to mix music, webmasters, etc. I'll start to try figuring things out to post a video using iMovie. cheers, ~sunny -- http://SpinXpress.com/Markus_Sandy http://Ourmedia.org/Markus_Sandy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] iMovie Interlacing...
well the issue is that it converts HD footage with the apple intermediate codec instead of editing raw HDV footage so you have to deinterlace afterwords if you edit with imovie. I use JES deinterlace and it works pretty good... On 5/16/07, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am also having interlacing problems with iMovie. Anybody know what the deal is? Cheers, Ron Watson On the Web: http://pawsitivevybe.com http://k9disc.com http://k9disc.blip.tv my moste recent videos on joshleo.com and wanderingwestmichigan.com were shot with this camera i am having some interlacing issues with imovie at the time being but if you edit on vegas, final cut, whatever you should come up with great results! \ . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com www.SlowLorisMedia.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Vote for this Upcoming.org suggestion
Vote for this Upcoming suggestion, of course I have no idea if this is technically possible, but it could be useful. http://suggestions.yahoo.com/detail/?prop=upcomingfid=26777 Upload events to YahooGroups Calendars submitted by philonmessage 3 days ago Many YahooGroups have a calendar for their members, is it possible to route an event to these ? - regards Phil Slade
[videoblogging] Videos for Make Internet TV
Hey all, Just wanted to give a heads up -- we're looking for 1-2 minute videos from experienced video bloggers. MakeInternetTV.org is a free resource for people to learn the basics of making videos. Erik Beck, of Next New Networks, made a video that is a great example of what we're looking for: http://www.getdemocracy.com/news/2007/05/mitv-videos-bringing-the-site-to-life/ Feel free to get in touch if you're interested in doing something similar -- the videos must be CC licensed, as we want to produce a free DVD to distribute to high schools and middle schools. Best, Dean Jansen Participatory Culture Foundation
[videoblogging] Re: Youtube Partner Program
Great discussion - can't stop wondering: What is the value of a link back to your independent vlog (where you control the branding, experience, player, 100% of the advertising and cross-promotions, merchandising, etc.) versus a revenue share on a video destination site that doesn't offer you any of that control? To put it another way, what dollar value would you put on 1,000 regular users on your site versus 1,000,000 views on YouTube? Thanks, -Frank Frank Sinton CEO, Mefeedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] 310-927-7841 (cell) http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover, Collect, and Enjoy great videos and podcasts Our blog: http://mefeedia.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adriana Kaegi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what other video sites offer better ad shares then youtube? just wondering, addy http://dearaddy.com --- Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a letter about youtube's new partner program, written by an anonymous youtube star who is certainly, definitely, Absolutely NOT Kent. http://battellemedia.com/archives/003630.php (via http://boingboing.net) this is extremely interesting. obviously John Battelle has a bias on youtube advertsing since he runs Federated Media. *I'm a YouTube star, but YouTube wishes I wasn't. They would like to pretend I don't exist, rather than admit there are several roads to financial and critical success that don't lead through their corporate headquarters. * Its tough to take these kinds of criticisms when you dont know who its from. I always question anonymous comments and articles. Some shows will stick with YouTube, but the savviest and the most commercial ones will move to other video sites that can provide better splits or signing bonuses. Creators will start to realize that their storytelling talents are rare and valuable. so true. I don't know the terms this round of authors were guaranteed by YouTube, but I do know that we were offered was okay money, but something that we've already surpassed. And then when you factor in merch sales, and the value of having our own users and pageviews on top of that and controlling our own brand, we're coming out miles ahead of a typical YouTube power user. I know Youtube can push mass traffic towards any video it chooses...but asking creators to dump their personal site is dangerous. I'd like to hear more about how Youtube feels about letting creators own their own content. Lots of questions. its up to us creators to educate each other and not settle for giving it all away. Jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June _ ___Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Youtube Partner Program
Hey Frank, I'm not sure about your question but I would like to put my videos anywhere i can get a 50/50 or better Rev Share and still own my content and control my brand. I get tens of thousands of views at YouTube but I get millions of views and thousands of dollars using Revver. I wish I could do the same with YouTube and other sites. Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld. -Original Message- From: Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 00:08:35 To:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Youtube Partner Program Great discussion - can't stop wondering: What is the value of a link back to your independent vlog (where you control the branding, experience, player, 100% of the advertising and cross-promotions, merchandising, etc.) versus a revenue share on a video destination site that doesn't offer you any of that control? To put it another way, what dollar value would you put on 1,000 regular users on your site versus 1,000,000 views on YouTube? Thanks, -Frank Frank Sinton CEO, Mefeedia [EMAIL PROTECTED]: mailto:frank%40mefeedia.com com 310-927-7841 (cell) http://www.mefeedia: http://www.mefeedia.com .com - Discover, Collect, and Enjoy great videos and podcasts Our blog: http://mefeedia.: http://mefeedia.com/blog com/blog --- In videoblogging@: mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Adriana Kaegi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what other video sites offer better ad shares then youtube? just wondering, addy http://dearaddy.: http://dearaddy.com com --- Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a letter about youtube's new partner program, written by an anonymous youtube star who is certainly, definitely, Absolutely NOT Kent. http://battellemedi: http://battellemedia.com/archives/003630.php a.com/archives/003630.php (via http://boingboing.: http://boingboing.net net) this is extremely interesting. obviously John Battelle has a bias on youtube advertsing since he runs Federated Media. *I'm a YouTube star, but YouTube wishes I wasn't. They would like to pretend I don't exist, rather than admit there are several roads to financial and critical success that don't lead through their corporate headquarters. * Its tough to take these kinds of criticisms when you dont know who its from. I always question anonymous comments and articles. Some shows will stick with YouTube, but the savviest and the most commercial ones will move to other video sites that can provide better splits or signing bonuses. Creators will start to realize that their storytelling talents are rare and valuable. so true. I don't know the terms this round of authors were guaranteed by YouTube, but I do know that we were offered was okay money, but something that we've already surpassed. And then when you factor in merch sales, and the value of having our own users and pageviews on top of that and controlling our own brand, we're coming out miles ahead of a typical YouTube power user. I know Youtube can push mass traffic towards any video it chooses...but asking creators to dump their personal site is dangerous. I'd like to hear more about how Youtube feels about letting creators own their own content. Lots of questions. its up to us creators to educate each other and not settle for giving it all away. Jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.: http://jaydedman.com com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfe: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ st.com/ Webvideo festival this June __ ___Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.: http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 com/collections/222 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Youtube Partner Program
I'd rather have 1,000 regular users as 1 million views on You Yube can be fleeting. What does Josh Leo have to say? He did several million a month or so ago on one on You Tube. Not to say he doesn't have 1,000 loyal viewers but I'll take the thousand. JCH http://www.jchtv.com/ Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great discussion - can't stop wondering: What is the value of a link back to your independent vlog (where you control the branding, experience, player, 100% of the advertising and cross-promotions, merchandising, etc.) versus a revenue share on a video destination site that doesn't offer you any of that control? To put it another way, what dollar value would you put on 1,000 regular users on your site versus 1,000,000 views on YouTube? Thanks, -Frank Frank Sinton CEO, Mefeedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] 310-927-7841 (cell) http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover, Collect, and Enjoy great videos and podcasts Our blog: http://mefeedia.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adriana Kaegi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what other video sites offer better ad shares then youtube? just wondering, addy http://dearaddy.com --- Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a letter about youtube's new partner program, written by an anonymous youtube star who is certainly, definitely, Absolutely NOT Kent. http://battellemedia.com/archives/003630.php (via http://boingboing.net) this is extremely interesting. obviously John Battelle has a bias on youtube advertsing since he runs Federated Media. *I'm a YouTube star, but YouTube wishes I wasn't. They would like to pretend I don't exist, rather than admit there are several roads to financial and critical success that don't lead through their corporate headquarters. * Its tough to take these kinds of criticisms when you dont know who its from. I always question anonymous comments and articles. Some shows will stick with YouTube, but the savviest and the most commercial ones will move to other video sites that can provide better splits or signing bonuses. Creators will start to realize that their storytelling talents are rare and valuable. so true. I don't know the terms this round of authors were guaranteed by YouTube, but I do know that we were offered was okay money, but something that we've already surpassed. And then when you factor in merch sales, and the value of having our own users and pageviews on top of that and controlling our own brand, we're coming out miles ahead of a typical YouTube power user. I know Youtube can push mass traffic towards any video it chooses...but asking creators to dump their personal site is dangerous. I'd like to hear more about how Youtube feels about letting creators own their own content. Lots of questions. its up to us creators to educate each other and not settle for giving it all away. Jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June __ ___Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 Jimmy CraicHead TVVideo Podcast about Sailing, Travel, Cocktails and other good Craic!http://www.jchtv.com/ - Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Youtube Partner Program
What is the value of a link back to your independent vlog (where you control the branding, experience, player, 100% of the advertising and cross-promotions, merchandising, etc.) versus a revenue share on a video destination site that doesn't offer you any of that control? To put it another way, what dollar value would you put on 1,000 regular users on your site versus 1,000,000 views on YouTube? why does it have to be one or the other? Unless Youtube is paying to license your content, and you agree to only host video on their site, then maybe this might make sense. (but dont give up ownership to your work!!!) Put the video on Youtube, but put it on you own site as well. Put it other places too. Why give Youtube so much power? as we know in the web 2.0 world, the barrier to entry is a server. jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June
[videoblogging] Re: Youtube Partner Program
One billion dollars.1,000?! I'd like to see 100 firstit's great that they are sharing revenue but let's be honest for the vast majority of vloggers out there it's a non issueor maybe it's just a non issue to me.(shrug) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great discussion - can't stop wondering: What is the value of a link back to your independent vlog (where you control the branding, experience, player, 100% of the advertising and cross-promotions, merchandising, etc.) versus a revenue share on a video destination site that doesn't offer you any of that control? To put it another way, what dollar value would you put on 1,000 regular users on your site versus 1,000,000 views on YouTube? Thanks, -Frank Frank Sinton CEO, Mefeedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] 310-927-7841 (cell) http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover, Collect, and Enjoy great videos and podcasts Our blog: http://mefeedia.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adriana Kaegi a_kaegi@ wrote: what other video sites offer better ad shares then youtube? just wondering, addy http://dearaddy.com --- Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: Here's a letter about youtube's new partner program, written by an anonymous youtube star who is certainly, definitely, Absolutely NOT Kent. http://battellemedia.com/archives/003630.php (via http://boingboing.net) this is extremely interesting. obviously John Battelle has a bias on youtube advertsing since he runs Federated Media. *I'm a YouTube star, but YouTube wishes I wasn't. They would like to pretend I don't exist, rather than admit there are several roads to financial and critical success that don't lead through their corporate headquarters. * Its tough to take these kinds of criticisms when you dont know who its from. I always question anonymous comments and articles. Some shows will stick with YouTube, but the savviest and the most commercial ones will move to other video sites that can provide better splits or signing bonuses. Creators will start to realize that their storytelling talents are rare and valuable. so true. I don't know the terms this round of authors were guaranteed by YouTube, but I do know that we were offered was okay money, but something that we've already surpassed. And then when you factor in merch sales, and the value of having our own users and pageviews on top of that and controlling our own brand, we're coming out miles ahead of a typical YouTube power user. I know Youtube can push mass traffic towards any video it chooses...but asking creators to dump their personal site is dangerous. I'd like to hear more about how Youtube feels about letting creators own their own content. Lots of questions. its up to us creators to educate each other and not settle for giving it all away. Jay -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June _ ___Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222
[videoblogging] Re: Youtube Partner Program
Doesn't have to be one or the other. Just trying to see what people think the value of a YouTube viewer or subscriber is versus someone who has viewed and subscribed at your vlog. Why give Youtube so much power? as we know in the web 2.0 world, the barrier to entry is a server. jay BUT you are giving YouTube MUCH power by uploading a video to their site and thus, agreeing to (quote for YouTube TOS): However, by submitting the User Submissions to YouTube, you hereby grant YouTube a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicenseable and transferable license to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, and perform the User Submissions in connection with the YouTube Website and YouTube's (and its successor's) business, including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the YouTube Website (and derivative works thereof) in any media formats and through any media channels. I'm 99.99% sure MSM has NOT agreed to these TOS and negotiated their own partner TOS, so why have vloggers? Again, leads me to the questions: 1) What is the value of a YouTube viewer and subscriber . 2) For those vloggers who have posted to YouTube, what value have you seen? -Frank -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Youtube Partner Program
i think for many people, tossing videos up all over the place is just a way to get started. the value may come when you as a content creator find your voice/style/focus and start to get scattered subscribers or just awareness and attention which can gradually build up over a year or 2. in other words, value doesnt always have immediacy attached to it. so using the youtube etc despite bad terms can still be ok for many creators. others will never want to give away any content with undesirable terms. as a rule of thumb, i agree with jay... but surely there are many many videos that you can put out there that you can let go of. sull On 5/17/07, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't have to be one or the other. Just trying to see what people think the value of a YouTube viewer or subscriber is versus someone who has viewed and subscribed at your vlog. Why give Youtube so much power? as we know in the web 2.0 world, the barrier to entry is a server. jay BUT you are giving YouTube MUCH power by uploading a video to their site and thus, agreeing to (quote for YouTube TOS): However, by submitting the User Submissions to YouTube, you hereby grant YouTube a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicenseable and transferable license to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, and perform the User Submissions in connection with the YouTube Website and YouTube's (and its successor's) business, including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the YouTube Website (and derivative works thereof) in any media formats and through any media channels. I'm 99.99% sure MSM has NOT agreed to these TOS and negotiated their own partner TOS, so why have vloggers? Again, leads me to the questions: 1) What is the value of a YouTube viewer and subscriber . 2) For those vloggers who have posted to YouTube, what value have you seen? -Frank -- Here I am http://jaydedman.com Check out the latest project: http://pixelodeonfest.com/ Webvideo festival this June [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Youtube Partner Program
On 5/17/07, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) What is the value of a YouTube viewer and subscriber . 2) For those vloggers who have posted to YouTube, what value have you seen? 1) Equal to the value of a subscriber by any other means, so long as all you care about is people who appreciate your work. 2) Finding an audience outside of this community, which can be (slightly) myopic at times. It's great to have a core group of subscribers who give feedback, criticism, and praise on your own site. But most people just want to see good videos and don't care about talking to the creator. I found that hard to believe at first, but it has proven true time after time. If you're lost you can look--and you will find me time after time -- Cyndi Lauper Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
