Re: [whatwg] [HTML5] 3.10.9. The |abbr| element

2006-11-02 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
On Nov 2, 2006, at 3:44 PM, Jonathan Worent wrote: --- Christoph Päper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First off I think the requirement for a |title| is too strict, because there are time and space saving abbreviations everyone knows -- i.e. either their expansion or their meaning -- that do not

Re: [whatwg] [HTML5] 3.10.9. The |abbr| element

2006-11-02 Thread James Graham
Lachlan Hunt wrote: Abbreviation expansions should only be supplied when they help the reader to understand the content, not just because the word happens to be an abbreviation. I agree, unless using abbr with no title is useful to get the correct rendering of abbreviations in non-visual

Re: [whatwg] [HTML5] 3.10.9. The |abbr| element

2006-11-02 Thread Lachlan Hunt
James Graham wrote: Lachlan Hunt wrote: Abbreviation expansions should only be supplied when they help the reader to understand the content, not just because the word happens to be an abbreviation. I agree, unless using abbr with no title is useful to get the correct rendering of

Re: [whatwg] [HTML5] 3.10.9. The |abbr| element

2006-11-02 Thread Jonathan Worent
I can see what everyones reasoning for not requiring the title (I change my vote :) --- Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Graham wrote: Lachlan Hunt wrote: Abbreviation expansions should only be supplied when they help the reader to understand the content, not just because

Re: [whatwg] [HTML5] 3.10.9. The |abbr| element

2006-11-01 Thread Jonathan Worent
--- Christoph Päper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First off I think the requirement for a |title| is too strict, because there are time and space saving abbreviations everyone knows -- i.e. either their expansion or their meaning -- that do not need an expansion, e.g. e.g. or AIDS.

Re: [whatwg] [HTML5] 3.10.9. The |abbr| element

2006-11-01 Thread Michel Fortin
Le 1 nov. 2006 à 21:44, Jonathan Worent a écrit : I disagree. There is never a guarantee that people will know what an abbreviation stands for, I know what AIDS is but not what it stands for. Also accessing the title information is optional. If the user knows what the abbreviation stands