Re: [Wicket-user] wicket vs. struts presentation

2007-05-24 Thread Marc Stock
The company I'm currently working at is a Struts 1 shop. Like most companies, they tend to stick with technologies they know even if they are inferrior. Right now I'm working on a Wicket prototype for them but it is likely they will stay a Struts shop. Technological inertia is hard to fight.

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket vs. struts presentation

2007-05-24 Thread Ayodeji Aladejebi
Technological inertia is hard to fight wicket is building momentum required to handle struts' inertia, give it time. I was going to ask the wicket leads to give us a graph showing wicket's growth generally especially checking download figures this year against last year and mailing list

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket vs. struts presentation

2007-05-23 Thread Nino Saturnino Martinez Vazquez Wael
I must dissagree(on the part where you say that wicket are mostly used in intranet apps), although not a wicket veteran yet(only been doing wicket for around 1.5 years). The two projects I've been involved in during this periode has both been using wicket. Both projects being commercially and

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket vs. struts presentation

2007-05-23 Thread Martijn Dashorst
That is because there is little point in putting intranet applications (or non-public facing applications) on the wiki: nobody can see the applications or browse them. /me reminds himself to create a video of some sorts for the application built. Martijn On 5/23/07, Nino Saturnino Martinez

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket vs. struts presentation

2007-05-23 Thread Nino Saturnino Martinez Vazquez Wael
Thats why peeps should add a user story if the site are non browsable(thats the part were you mention a video:).. But yeah I guess you're right:) Martijn Dashorst wrote: That is because there is little point in putting intranet applications (or non-public facing applications) on the wiki:

[Wicket-user] wicket vs. struts presentation

2007-05-22 Thread Florian Hehlen
Hi all, I am looking for help presenting wicket to my development team. 1-Has anyone out there had to defend wicket vs. struts and would you have any resources/links/presentations to pass this way to help in presenting wicket to our group? 2-Has anyone made any measurements/analysis of the

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket vs. struts presentation

2007-05-22 Thread Johan Compagner
can't you make 2 prototypes of the same application with your team and then see how it works? 3-Objectively, I am also looking for what wicket is weak at. hope you have a magnifying glass with you then because that is ofcourse hard to find ;) But most people would say i guess use of

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket vs. struts presentation

2007-05-22 Thread Florian Hehlen
Hi, Thanks for the feedback. We are contemplating doing some prototyping. I am currently implementing a small application within the group with wicket but it is not clear weather we will have the time to do the same for struts. On the other hand most people in the group have some level of

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket vs. struts presentation

2007-05-22 Thread Erik van Oosten
Hi Florian, 1- I am surprised you want to compare against Struts. Almost any modern web framework will kick ass compared to Struts. 2- I know only of one. It is the first article on this page on the wiki: http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/articles-about-wicket.html. It has a very nice comparison

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket vs. struts presentation

2007-05-22 Thread Upayavira
Florian Hehlen wrote: Hi all, I am looking for help presenting wicket to my development team. 1-Has anyone out there had to defend wicket vs. struts and would you have any resources/links/presentations to pass this way to help in presenting wicket to our group? 2-Has anyone made any

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket vs. struts presentation

2007-05-22 Thread Florian Hehlen
Hi, the reason we are comparing to Struts is that that's one of the contender. We are not a web-app shop. We need a general purpose toolkit for intranet development. But since struts is so popular it's being pitted against wicket. Florian Erik van Oosten wrote: Hi Florian, 1- I am

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket vs. struts presentation

2007-05-22 Thread Upayavira
Florian Hehlen wrote: Hi, the reason we are comparing to Struts is that that's one of the contender. We are not a web-app shop. We need a general purpose toolkit for intranet development. But since struts is so popular it's being pitted against wicket. The thing I took from Matt's talk

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket vs. struts presentation

2007-05-22 Thread Johan Compagner
wicket is a very good fit for intranet development. I think it is mostly used in that kind of webapps. johan On 5/22/07, Florian Hehlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, the reason we are comparing to Struts is that that's one of the contender. We are not a web-app shop. We need a general

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket vs. struts presentation

2007-05-22 Thread Eelco Hillenius
1-Has anyone out there had to defend wicket vs. struts and would you have any resources/links/presentations to pass this way to help in presenting wicket to our group? Yeah, a million times now :) Seriously, I think you can find quite a bit googling (use model 2 vs wicket or something) or