Re: [Wikipedia-l] How is Wikidata CC0?

2018-06-18 Thread Samuel Klein
I assume Cunctator (hello!) means he sees extraction of facts / relationships from CC-SA articles, and claiming those facts are CC-0, hurts copyleft. I don't see copyright/left as applying to individual facts or data; so I don't think this is a legal issue; but the social and practical questions

Re: [Wikipedia-l] How is Wikidata CC0?

2018-06-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
The Cunctator, 18/06/2018 17:57: Is there a coherent explanation of what content Wikidata is extracting from CC-BY-SA projects? Not really, because it's a very distributed and long-running process (which is very very far from completion). But there are some relevant examples explained in

Re: [Wikipedia-l] How is Wikidata CC0?

2018-06-18 Thread The Cunctator
Is there a coherent explanation of what content Wikidata is extracting from CC-BY-SA projects? On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 10:55 AM, The Cunctator wrote: > Your claims that the abusive destruction of copyleft by the Wikidata > project have nothing to do with copyright and nothing to do with

Re: [Wikipedia-l] How is Wikidata CC0?

2018-06-18 Thread The Cunctator
Your claims that the abusive destruction of copyleft by the Wikidata project have nothing to do with copyright and nothing to do with Wikidata don't make any sense. On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > That is one argument that has nothing to do with copyright.

Re: [Wikipedia-l] How is Wikidata CC0?

2018-06-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, That is one argument that has nothing to do with copyright. Google may use our content as long as it complies with the license. In addition to this, our aim is to share in the sum of all knowledge. Arguably when Google pays for the distribution, it saves us money.. Your logic has us pay

Re: [Wikipedia-l] How is Wikidata CC0?

2018-06-18 Thread The Cunctator
It looks from that discussion that the violations of cc-by-sa in order to help google's profits have not been in any way resolved. On Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 1:56 AM Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Ave Cunctator. > > The Cunctator, 18/06/2018 04:46: > > If it's pulling from Wikipedia (CC-BY-SA) > >

Re: [Wikipedia-l] How is Wikidata CC0?

2018-06-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Ave Cunctator. The Cunctator, 18/06/2018 04:46: If it's pulling from Wikipedia (CC-BY-SA) It's not, in the sense that it's not getting any copyrightable bits from it. A relevant document is . Then just few days ago there was an

Re: [Wikipedia-l] How is Wikidata CC0?

2018-06-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, You are wrong. When you read an article and morf it into a Wikipedia article, you do not have to maintain the copyright of the original. The same applies to Wikidata. Also what do you call Wikipedia? Wikidata contains much more than just Wikipedia particularly English Wikipedia. Thanks,

[Wikipedia-l] How is Wikidata CC0?

2018-06-17 Thread The Cunctator
If it's pulling from Wikipedia (CC-BY-SA) what is the justification for converting the license to CC0? ___ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l