Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-22 Thread Quim Gil
Isarra, I like the idea of endorsements. Of course the best endorsement to an extension is to have it installed and actively used in a wiki, and the more popular the wiki is, the bigger that endorsement can be considered. Wikiapiary has the building blocks for this in place, since they also track

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-21 Thread Quim Gil
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: At Wikimania, we had a good conversation and a proposal (that was basically agreed upon by everyone in the room IIRC!) about creating a gold standard for extensions, judging them based on their code quality,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-21 Thread Isarra Yos
On 21/08/14 13:13, Quim Gil wrote: On Wednesday, August 20, 2014, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: At Wikimania, we had a good conversation and a proposal (that was basically agreed upon by everyone in the room IIRC!) about creating a gold standard for extensions, judging them based

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-21 Thread James Forrester
On 21 August 2014 08:58, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: On 21/08/14 13:13, Quim Gil wrote: On Wednesday, August 20, 2014, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: At Wikimania, we had a good conversation and a proposal (that was basically agreed upon by everyone in the room IIRC!)

[Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-20 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, One thing is clear, Aditya has a thick skin, which sadly still seems to be a quality required in many open source projects including ours. I wonder of many old-timers would enjoy the kind of reception he got here after introducing himself as a GSoC student -- even by people that know well

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-20 Thread Strainu
2014-08-20 14:48 GMT+03:00 Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org: Hi, One thing is clear, Aditya has a thick skin, which sadly still seems to be a quality required in many open source projects including ours. And will remain so for the foreseeable future. On Tuesday, August 19, 2014, Strainu

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-20 Thread Isarra Yos
On 20/08/14 11:48, Quim Gil wrote: For those interested in the process of proposing and accepting internship projects, here you have a post mortem of this specific case: On Tuesday, August 19, 2014, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds like a serious miscommunication before the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-20 Thread Derric Atzrott
When someone creates a product specifically for a certain group of users (in this case folks installing extensions) without actually knowing what is useful to them (never even mind 'important' at this stage), there is something seriously wrong with that process. Though I might only be a

[Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-20 Thread Quim Gil
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','zhoris...@gmail.com'); wrote: When someone creates a product specifically for a certain group of users (in this case folks installing extensions) without actually knowing what is useful to them (never

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-20 Thread Legoktm
On 8/20/14, 9:04 AM, Quim Gil wrote: In order to move forward, we can discuss at different levels: * At a general level, which should be the priorities for mediawiki.org's gallery of extensions? This will allow us to define more tasks and projects for potential developers.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-19 Thread Strainu
2014-08-18 19:35 GMT+03:00 Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@nichework.com wrote: Yes. This is a GSoC project that was accepted. Getting the ratings to mw.o is the final step of that.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-19 Thread Merlijn van Deen
On 19 August 2014 07:36, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I don't think in it's current state/design it is overly suitable for deployment onto MediaWiki wiki as it will introduce a external factor on the page load for each visitor, although I haven't looked at the current

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-19 Thread K. Peachey
Probably the original IRC discussions. On 19 August 2014 17:22, Merlijn van Deen valhall...@arctus.nl wrote: On 19 August 2014 07:36, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I don't think in it's current state/design it is overly suitable for deployment onto MediaWiki wiki as it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-19 Thread Jon Robson
Hi Aditya I'm truly sorry you are getting this kind of response, the replies you've got here seem very mean spirited but please don't take them personally. I hope it doesn't put you off building stuff on top of MediaWiki. I just wanted to say thank you for building this, regardless of whether it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-19 Thread Aditya Chaturvedi
Hi Jon, I am grateful to the wikimedia community for providing their responses about this project so there is nothing to be sorry about. I understand they have a lot of concerns to maintain the quality of data on the site. The rating system has been built on top of semantic mediawiki so this can

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-19 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Is it really necessary for people to openly mock the work of a volunteer developer on the list? No wonder we have so few volunteer developers. On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/18/14, 8:47 AM, Chad wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Brad

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-19 Thread Derric Atzrott
Has it already been asked anywhere *whether* to make these ratings available on mediawiki.org? How useful is it really to know that Extension:ConfirmEdit scored 3 on some external website, especially without knowing that that 3 comes from a grand total of 1 person? Relevant:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-18 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Aditya Chaturvedi aditya.iiita...@gmail.com wrote: However, to run the system in production first, we need assistance on how to make these ratings visible on the pages of extension. Has it already been asked anywhere *whether* to make these ratings available

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-18 Thread Isarra Yos
On 18/08/14 14:54, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Aditya Chaturvedi aditya.iiita...@gmail.com wrote: However, to run the system in production first, we need assistance on how to make these ratings visible on the pages of extension. Has it already been asked

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-18 Thread Chad
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Aditya Chaturvedi aditya.iiita...@gmail.com wrote: However, to run the system in production first, we need assistance on how to make these ratings visible on the pages of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-18 Thread Legoktm
On 8/18/14, 8:47 AM, Chad wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: Has it already been asked anywhere *whether* to make these ratings available on mediawiki.org? How useful is it really to know that Extension:ConfirmEdit scored 3 on some

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-18 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com writes: On 8/18/14, 8:47 AM, Chad wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org Has it already been asked anywhere *whether* to make these ratings available on mediawiki.org? Yes. This is a GSoC project that was

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-18 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@nichework.com wrote: Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com writes: On 8/18/14, 8:47 AM, Chad wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org Has it already been asked anywhere *whether* to make

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-18 Thread Aditya Chaturvedi
I agree to the points raised about ratings and what parameters are best suitable for representing them. However, I believe these are evolutionary features and can only be improved in an agile manner. The key issue I believe is to address the cold start problem and for this I suppose that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-18 Thread K. Peachey
I was meaning to comment on the overall GSoC proposal before the acceptance stage and didn't get a chance. Personally I don't think in it's current state/design it is overly suitable for deployment onto MediaWiki wiki as it will introduce a external factor on the page load for each visitor,

[Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-17 Thread Aditya Chaturvedi
Hello everyone, I am happy to announce that as a part of the GSOC project we have succeeded in developing a platform to allow user's to rate different extensions of mediawiki on Wikiapiary https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Main_Page and syndicating them back to MediaWiki.