Re: 8k resolution video causes X Error

2011-12-05 Thread Alan Cox
/usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so [ 180.902] (II) Module nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation [ 180.902] compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 [ 180.902] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 180.902] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 285.05.09 Fri

Re: Problem with Intel emgd (GMA500)

2011-10-10 Thread Alan Cox
xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default xrandr: screen cannot be larger that 640x480 (desired size 800x600) xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed xrandr won't allow you to change modes on the fbdev interface. The libdrm tools will if it detected any other modes, however it tries to

Re: Problem with Intel emgd (GMA500)

2011-10-07 Thread Alan Cox
I've no idea what is wrong. With vesa driver it works, but very slowly. Any help will be appreciated. The current kernel has a GMA500 KMS driver that will give you sensible native modes with the framebuffer driver as well as support multiple outputs properly. There are some basic

Re: xf86-video-dummy with randr support - is anyone else interested? Alternatives?

2011-07-10 Thread Alan Cox
Alternatives? I cannot find any other driver that would act as a virtual screen like xf86-video-dummy, but would provide a RandR-compliant framebuffer for me. I don't think Xephyr, Xdmx, Xvnc, x2x and whatnot others can help me here, Awesome needs to see something as a regular RandR

Re: [ANNOUNCE] xf86-input-fpit 1.4.0

2011-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
the standard is pretty much defined by what the driver can take. If it can't parse the protocol then the device is rather useless anyway. but really, writing a serial kernel driver is rather trivial and has a higher chance of actually working long-term than dragging the old input drivers

Re: xpenguins cont'd - repainting a window after penguins walk on it, and when penguins overlap.

2011-06-06 Thread Alan Cox
Can anyone think of a nice way to handle this? The only thing I can think of is to do some sort of collision/overlapping detection and then be careful about the bits of background that gets copied between the penguins in question. Or accumulate all your updates then merge them and do them

Re: 3D in Display link based devices?

2011-05-28 Thread Alan Cox
I think the underlying framework is already there. You can create a GEM surface for the 3D card to render into which doesn't need to be a display surface, then you need to get it onto the USB graphics device. Alan ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org

Re: Set the application always on top

2011-02-23 Thread Alan Cox
I have only one screen. The machine has no keyboard and no mouse : only a touchscreen. The flash application IP is connected to a java application. Flash application and/or Java server have to restart in order to change parameters (language ...) I will look to your solution :) In

Re: Set the application always on top

2011-02-22 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:37:04 +0100 MONDON Daniel daniel.mon...@lpgsystems.com wrote: Hi, I am looking for an X command (?) to set my program on top level. In fact, this is a SplashScreen shown during transition between two program execution : in order to mask windows during closing and

Re: Failed to Initialize the NVIDIA graphics device - Samsung TV LN46A650

2011-02-14 Thread Alan Cox
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:20:48 + (UTC) moodyj...@frontiernet.net wrote: I'm running Fedora 12 kernel 2.6.32.26-175 and can't get Xorg to initialize my Samsung TV LN46A650. No nVidia splash screen, just a black screen with fast blinking cursor. The system does boot and Xwindows is running

Re: Documentation

2011-01-03 Thread Alan Cox
they both have serious shortcomings, and bugs, which make target application either non-functional after routine API changes (nokia) or bloated, buggy and slow (gtk). Gtk is usually faster than the naïvely programmed Xlib apps because it does actually have a modicum of sense about things like

Re: companies contributing to X [was: Re: Respository vandalism by r...@...fd.o]

2010-11-25 Thread Alan Cox
but simply being more enthusiastic about accepting contributions doesn't seem like a great plan (compare the code quality of nouveau, intel and radeon to that of some of the out of tree drivers, for instance) I think that is a little naïve. There is a difference between vendors attempting to

Re: Respository vandalism by r...@...fd.o

2010-11-24 Thread Alan Cox
See, this was exactly the problem here. It _was_ a freedesktop admin. And it was pretty clear that it was that from the onset too. Mailing fd.o admins, even if i could've dug up an email address in the split second that i wrote the email (heck, i even mistyped repository), was not the

Re: Respository vandalism by r...@...fd.o

2010-11-23 Thread Alan Cox
It's on a separate branch, not master. (Doesn't mean it's right, just that it's not actually going to cripple anything or waste time for anyone who doesn't ask for it.) And how many other un-noticed commits did this person make ? Until you know that you have to assume a complete compromise.

Re: Respository vandalism by r...@...fd.o

2010-11-23 Thread Alan Cox
What would you suggest should be done next? Checking logs for traces of this? Those which could reveal this information might be gone already. Looking for anything which is in the tree but not in or not matching the mail archive. Sounds like a job for a perl nutter 8) And chasing down who did

Re: mixed OpenGL vendor drivers

2010-11-17 Thread Alan Cox
So I read this as, redistribution is fine with at least Nvidia and AMD. And for legal purposes allow me to remind you that the Linux kernel is subject to the GNU public license v2. This has specific constraints on derivative works and large numbers of contributors (me included) have never given

Re: siliconmotion driver hacking [xf86-video-siliconmotion-1.7.4]

2010-11-15 Thread Alan Cox
What I would like to do is compile a 'portrait' video driver. Essentially, I think I just want to swap the x and y values for each pixel, thus creating an output for a display in portrait mode. See xrandr I figure that there is a bit more to it than just doing a global replace data_x with

Re: Xorg video driver for SGX535

2010-11-11 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:36:59 +0530 vijay singh testmrs@gmail.com wrote: Hello, is their any link or input which can give me Xorg video module driver for PowerVR chipset (SGX535). I believe vendors can purchase a proprietary (ie non-free in both senses) license and access from the device

Re: Some ideas

2010-03-01 Thread Alan Cox
This already exists, it's just not bundled with X.Org due to the different license - TigerVNC uses current Xorg sources to build both Xvnc and a vnc.so loadable extension module that are compatible with current servers and extensions. http://www.tigervnc.com/ (Providing you don't have any

Re: Problems with X.org and incompatibilities with in-house software

2010-02-28 Thread Alan Cox
To our much dismay we have recently found after attempting to install new Linux boxes that these extensions no longer appear to be available. PEX was dropped in what was it 2004, so six years ago... taken you a while to notice and it was dropped because nobody could actually find a single

Re: Problems with X.org and incompatibilities with in-house software

2010-02-28 Thread Alan Cox
disabled, removed extensions. How many of these are disabled as a result of actual broken code, vs, how many are disabled because, we don't like how it looks? Most are disabled because they don't work (and often havent worked for ages, or have been disabled by distributions by default for

Re: X.Org Foundation Board of Directors 2010 Election

2010-02-16 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:07:32 +0100 Matthias Hopf mh...@suse.de wrote: On Feb 16, 10 07:26:35 -0800, Keith Packard wrote: Our outstanding obligations today are MIT hosting for this year ($3000) and travel expenses for FOSDEM 2010 ($660). Not that it matters too much, but $3000 sounds

Re: X11 fullscreen

2010-01-28 Thread Alan Cox
Forget widget toolkits. They're totally lame wrappers that hide all the useful functionality from you, run like a waterlogged sheep, and otherwise assume you don't want to get anything really nontrivial running this month. Unless you need to get any real work done - like non western font

Re: X11 fullscreen

2010-01-28 Thread Alan Cox
One can do all that with their own libraries based on Xlib. I don't use any Xlib font functions. And how is your Gujerati and accessibility ... ? I'm also not sure why you'd want to use Xlib nowdays. I mean Xlib has a serial non-threaded model without callbacks that causes apps to block

Re: pocket pc as X screen?

2010-01-27 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:12:19 -0500 Dave Bender codeh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was wondering if there was a way to use a WiFi or USB connected CE/Mobile PocketPC as another X screen. It would be a good use for old PDAs. VNC.. ___ xorg mailing list

Re: [OT] e-mail license

2009-12-02 Thread Alan Cox
For all: is there a policy about it ? Ignore it. If it really bugs you add it to your spam filter matches and they'll never trouble you again. They have at least kept it shorter than some of the gems attached by companies and used the word please

Re: Radical idea for X-modmap problem.

2009-07-26 Thread Alan Cox
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:06:41 -0700 David Moffatt david.moff...@access-company.com wrote: Responding to the thread about mapping hardware scan codes -- X key codes and keyboards with 248 keys. Perhaps the solution is to take the hardware scan code -- Symbol problem out of the X layer

Re: cyrix driver

2009-04-14 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:21:14 -0400 Cliff Brake cliff.br...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that the xf86-video-cyrix is not in X 7.4. Is this the case, and is there any way to get the cyrix driver working with 7.4? Or is there another driver that should work? I'm using a old geode board. If

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-09 Thread Alan Cox
if someone massively resizes a window with backing store (remembering it can be mostly offscreen) your X server explodes. Remind us why turning it on for all windows all the time (Composite) is better than for one window? ;o) There is nothing in composite that requires you redirect

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-09 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:22:45 +1000 Torgeir Veimo torg...@pobox.com wrote: 2009/4/9 Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk For proving fancy anti-aliasing isn't just for new apps or integrating it into old ones, KeithP's rework of twm with render is glorious... Is there a screenshot

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-09 Thread Alan Cox
He might have. His response doesn't contain any useful information. I think you are confusing not containing information with not understanding it tie-in on the web-page, that's problematic since it's only the portion of the API which has been unchanging for an extended period of time that

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-09 Thread Alan Cox
That's http://keithp.com/~keithp/talks/ Nice pictures. I also like how they demonstrate anti-aliased fonts are unusable at small sizes. Each to their own, I know which I find easier to read and I know what extensive studies say people prefer as well. Also be careful with the images to view

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-09 Thread Alan Cox
= there can't be that many applications using it if it was moving all the time So the fact there are lots of applications using it should have told you that your interpretations were suspect = there can't have been much testing by real applications at that point See above. Pretty much the

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-09 Thread Alan Cox
I've always wondered why. It makes no sense. The network-oriented nature of X means you should do your best to send as little data as possible, and prerendered pixmaps are nowhere near minimal. Why isn't fontconfig/xft and even pango in the server where it seems to belong? It turns out to

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-09 Thread Alan Cox
Is there equivalent functionality with Xft? And whose responsibility it is now, if this functionality is not here: applications, toolkits or something else? Xft provides the DPI information, the desktop permits the DPI to be configured providing some muppet hasn't decided that is too

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-09 Thread Alan Cox
And in the past, we never had the viewing distance in X11's design: our presumption was then always desktop monitors, viewed at the usual desktop distance). It is entirely missing from the core protocol. One problem is that this is application dependant. I will be at normal viewing distance

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-08 Thread Alan Cox
Dropping support for automatic backing store while at the same pushing for a design, composite, that is all backing store all the time means one of three things : lazyness, incompetence, or a big honking design issue in the server. So, which one is it? Backing store has long been off by

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-08 Thread Alan Cox
if someone massively resizes a window with backing store (remembering it can be mostly offscreen) your X server explodes. Hence the pleasure that is composite. Compositing only has to deal with the visible resources. The design very carefully keeps the rendering determined by the size of

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-08 Thread Alan Cox
How standard is Cairo? The proof-of-concept app from 15 years ago still works fine because it's only got two dependancies: Xlib and libc. It works everywhere for the same reason. If I added Cairo as a dependancy, would apps still work on 100% of Linux systems, and would they still

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-07 Thread Alan Cox
Someone offered up www.x.org/docs, which may be fine for X Window System developers, but is not what most application programmers would call documentation. Why would an application programmer want to be using Xlib directly ? There is good documentation for things like pango and cairo but then

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-07 Thread Alan Cox
several mission-critical applications that has seen two and a half decades of development based on Xlib. (... with all the assumptions Commiserations but at least Xlib today is back compatible. Try a 25 year old windows app and weep. I'd be very surprised if I was alone in this situation.

Re: Kernel modesetting

2009-03-24 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:33:16 +0100 Tino Keitel tino.keitel+x...@tikei.de wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:05:33 -0500, tsuraan wrote: [...] be possible to use DRI and Xinerama in this configuration, or is that The Intel Xorg driver doesn't work with Xinerama anymore. It just crashes

Re: Severe memory leaks make X.org unuseable

2009-03-02 Thread Alan Cox
I have looked at the source code for X.org and the savage driver. I cannot really quite understand it at all. Is there a guide to describe and document the X.org internals in detail? There are documents for EXA and XAA. The majority of each driver is shared code so if you've got a chipset

Re: Severe memory leaks make X.org unuseable

2009-02-19 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:22:21 -0800 (PST) milnser43...@yahoo.com milnser43...@yahoo.com wrote: There are very serious and severe memory leaks under X.org with the savage driver You forgot to attach the fixes At the same time important backwards compatability upon which many of our

Re: Current support and roadmap for discrete graphics card hot switching

2009-01-15 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:21:53 + Albert Vilella avile...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, What is the current support and roadmap for discrete graphics card hot switching in Xorg? OLPC does automatic switching of display controller for power management. There are currently ~40 users of Sony

Re: Current support and roadmap for discrete graphics card hot switching

2009-01-15 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:39:44 + Albert Vilella avile...@gmail.com wrote: What is the current support and roadmap for discrete graphics card hot switching in Xorg? OLPC does automatic switching of display controller for power management. Interesting. So the OLPC also has a

Re: Current support and roadmap for discrete graphics card hot switching

2009-01-15 Thread Alan Cox
Right, which reduces it to a simple power management issue akin to powering down the 3D core on any modern chipset when you're not doing any rendering. Adding different devices with separate drivers is another matter altogether. Isn't dual driver support logically equivalent to xrandr

Re: More Displaylink stuff

2008-12-24 Thread Alan Cox
- The key is likely 16 bytes, which are sent as a control transfer. They appear to be random, but the same 16-byte string can appear repeatedly, esp. if the device is initialized immediately after bootup. If these 16 bytes are equal, then all bulk transfers are also identical

Re: More Displaylink stuff

2008-12-24 Thread Alan Cox
so are the subsequent image blocks. However, when I change the background image and reboot the VM, I can get the same key at startup, but different image blocks. So I'm quite sure it can't be any kind of hash. So both encrypted VNC or RDP variants are candidates. It doesn't sound like VNC

Re: [PATCH] Fix sis driver to compile with -Werror=format-security

2008-12-23 Thread Alan Cox
better patch. On the other hand, if you guys feel there is nothing to be fixed here I'll just keep the patch for the Mandriva package and let it go. Change str to a macro and use that: #define MSG_SEP **\n ... xf86DrvMsg(pScrn-scrnIndex,

Re: X Server: abused or buggy?

2008-12-10 Thread Alan Cox
We could also investigate using a slab allocator approach for things like data structures that are a fixed size, to keep them from ending up between pixmaps, and hopefully reducing fragmentation that way, but that's also more glibc already does this and you can set a size theshold for mmap

Re: X Server: abused or buggy?

2008-12-09 Thread Alan Cox
Why should it be a KDE bug if the X server is leaking memory? I used to The KDE app told X to cache all those pixmaps. X is just doing what it was asked to. The alternative would be that it decided to kill off that client for being dumb. ___ xorg

Re: X Server: abused or buggy?

2008-12-09 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 16:08:33 + John Tapsell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/12/9 Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why should it be a KDE bug if the X server is leaking memory? I used to The KDE app told X to cache all those pixmaps. X is just doing what it was asked to. The alternative

Re: X Server: abused or buggy?

2008-12-09 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:06:04 +0100 Óscar Fuentes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why should it be a KDE bug if the X server is leaking memory? I used to The KDE app told X to cache all those pixmaps. X is just doing what it was asked to. The alternative

Re: [newb] Will xorg still allow non-hal config?

2008-12-01 Thread Alan Cox
What is there to maintain, exactly? Fonts are not generated out of thin hair and they need to be updated to keep up with the environment. Only if you keep breaking the environment carelessly. Environment changes can be changes in encoding standards (unicode is still evolving and even

Re: [newb] Will xorg still allow non-hal config?

2008-12-01 Thread Alan Cox
In case you've not noticed the so-called kernel console userspace is totally unable right now to turn standard vectorised fonts into bitmaps suiting a changing variety of hardware and encodings, and relies on manually pre-processed bitmap fonts precious few people maintain and adapt to

Re: [newb] Will xorg still allow non-hal config?

2008-12-01 Thread Alan Cox
Just check the console on any random selection of non-us or uk systems and you'll see the current garbage is the console output. Sure it is not a blocker because all the different encodings agree on the ASCII part, but anything outside the 127 first codepoints has a high probability of being

Re: [newb] Will xorg still allow non-hal config?

2008-12-01 Thread Alan Cox
I mean this is broken every Fedora release or so just by applying system updates without any user-level intervention. I don't think that So file a Fedora bug. The font data is out there already thank you. As you keep conveniently forgetting X can already render those fonts to bitmaps

Re: [newb] Will xorg still allow non-hal config?

2008-12-01 Thread Alan Cox
I just observe few people are working on them anymore, because most applications use something else. I see few people working on them because they are not broken and don't need work. Same with the consoles. We get almost no console patches because the kernel consoles do what people need

Re: [rant] keeping policy in HAL

2008-12-01 Thread Alan Cox
Apriori, there is no sensible default keyboard layout. Yes, there is, and it's called US. This isn't being Anglo-centric or Which US layout - there are several and then you get all the variants with extra funny buttons for internet etc ? anything, and I'm not going to argue the point.

Re: [newb] Will xorg still allow non-hal config?

2008-12-01 Thread Alan Cox
b) given that we're talking about font rendering, how we talk about Linux systems that actually render fonts? The subset that do: Framebuffer drivers, nanogui, and X (particularly non embedded devices). Kernel side font handling is bitmaps or font tables with the work done by the video

Re: XGetImage returns junk with Xorg/dummy_drv/VTs

2008-11-24 Thread Alan Cox
But we do that anyway for all the offscreen pixmaps, because unlike windows, we're not allowed to lose their contents. Sounds like another good reason to have DRI manage that and X aware screen switching so you only have to save console stomped areas.

Re: modular: Changes to 'master'

2008-10-21 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:51:45 -0700 Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 18:15 +0200, Luc Verhaegen wrote: Is there a single technical reason why shipping both is a problem? For the same reason the kernel avoids shipping multiple drivers for the same hardware We

Re: Multiple Monitors, Same Workspaces

2008-09-19 Thread Alan Cox
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:57:13 -0500 Clayton Shepard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I don't believe this anywhere near the functionality that I am talking about. If I am mistaken please elaborate on how to do it with xrandr. Set the virtual desktop nice and large in size, define both displays as

Re: Multiple Monitors, Same Workspaces

2008-09-19 Thread Alan Cox
Yes, but that won't display the application bar on each monitor or allow you to rotate workspaces independently will it? What gets displayed on each desktop depends what you put there. If it doesn't do what you want send the relevant application authors patches. As to rotation - yes xrandr