> -----Original Message----- > From: sqlite-users [mailto:sqlite-users-boun...@mailinglists.sqlite.org] On > Behalf Of Keith Medcalf > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 11:33 AM > To: SQLite mailing list <sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org> > Subject: Re: [sqlite] Many ML emails going to GMail's SPAM > > >> There is nothing wrong with email - but there is an awful lot wrong > >> with gnail and Google's ideas on how email is done. (Not to mention > >> Yahoo, but it seems that MS have the sense to leave the underpinnings > >> of hotmail as they were.) > > >> To put it simply - friends don't let friends use gmail. > > >> Cheers, > >> GaryB-) > > >Short of running my own server, what do you recommend? After losing my > >lifelong email provider (Suffolk.lib.ny.us) and trying a few others, I > >eventually settled for gmail, which I use with Thunderbird. > >I don't have any significant issues with that setup. > > And that is OK, as long as you realize that it is quite possible for the > e-mail > provider to be the one causing the issues and that they are not inherent in e- > mail itself. E-mail adds very little in the way of non-pre-existing > conditions > that did not exist before the advent of e-mail -- the only real difference > being that one does not need to pay postage to send e-mail. > > I run my own e-mail server and have since before there was an "Internet" as > such and still do. It has moved locations and data centers many times over > the last almost four decades but it has always been mine. I do have trust > issues with third-parties so perhaps that is part of the reason. More likely > is > that it was interesting to set up way back in the later part of the 80's and > early > 90's and there was no reason to discontinue using it. It does cost a few > dollars a month to maintain the infrastructure and does require care and > feeding (particularly security feeding), from time to time, however, mostly > all > the running and maintenance is automated, as it should be. Do something > manually maybe once or twice. If it needed doing twice then it should be > automated so you don't have to do it manually again. The exceptions > happen to be major OS or software upgrades which I prefer to do by hand > since they only occur with relative infrequency and may have/cause "other > issues". > > Periodically I have to re-jig some of the security to counter new tactics > employed by the variety of miscreants out there in the world, but that does > not really need to be done that often at this point (which is really > interesting > because as you figure out one method and appropriate countermeasures, > another technique that was hidden in the noise becomes exposed -- this can > really be a really entertaining process). The fact that a few (4 or 5) spam > e- > mail slip through per day, and that the automation tells me that an equal > number of new miscreants have been banished per day, plus the daily > automated log audits lets me know that everything is working properly. >
Thanks for the interesting reply. What you describe is exactly what I envision, which is why I never ran my own server (although I have been very tempted). I have enough hobbies for now. -Bill CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain material that is proprietary, confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected or restricted under applicable government laws. Any review, disclosure, distributing or other use without expressed permission of the sender is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies without reading, printing, or saving. Beginning April 1, 2018, L3 Technologies, Inc. will discontinue the use of all @L-3Com.com email addresses. To ensure delivery of your messages to this recipient, please update your records to use william.dr...@l3t.com. _______________________________________________ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
