It’s not that nobody cares, it’s that it’s ultimately up to Apple to decided how this is going to go, and nobody there seems to care. Until a decision is made there, nothing will happen. Even under the best case scenario I wouldn’t expect anything to happen soon, as Apple doesn’t move quickly for stuff like this.
To my eyes, the Discourse-powered Rust forums look great. Jon > On Oct 8, 2016, at 7:00 AM, Karl via swift-evolution > <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote: > > It’s one of those issues where everybody agrees we could do better but nobody > cares enough to do anything about it. > > In any case I think Discourse seemed to be the only real option because of > mailing-list support. So I suppose they next step would be to submit a formal > proposal to swift-evo on GitHub? > > >> On 7 Oct 2016, at 20:44, Adrian Zubarev via swift-evolution >> <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote: >> >> What happened to that talk? Were any decisions made internally? Any news? >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Adrian Zubarev >> Sent with Airmail >> >> Am 21. August 2016 um 17:36:53, Michie via swift-evolution >> (swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>) schrieb: >> >>> Incase, the Swift team decided to use a forum. >>> >>> I would like to suggest Discourse (http://www.discourse.org >>> <http://www.discourse.org/>). >>> It is one of the most reliable open-source made forum and most >>> companies have been using it as their forum/community eg. Dockers, >>> Let's Encrypt, etc... >>> >>> The Swift Team has a choice to host it on their own or pay >>> discourse.org <http://discourse.org/> to host it for you. Hosting on their >>> own would be more >>> cheaper and gives you more control on how you want it to be set up. We >>> can easily set up a mailing list to all the people watching the >>> discussion and you can add in your own style of Authentication if >>> needed. >>> >>> Slack will be very expensive because Slack cost almost $7 per active >>> member per month. If you don't pay, it will definitely be limiting. >>> Also, I don't think using chat for this kind of project will be more >>> productive as people need to revisit some discussions. >>> >>> I can help the Swift Team set up Discourse if they are interested and >>> they can create a subdomain: https://community.swift.org >>> <https://community.swift.org/> for it. >>> >>> Let me know. >>> >>> Michie :) >>> >>> Quoting Sean Alling via swift-evolution <swift-evolution@swift.org >>> <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>>: >>> >>> > +1 >>> > >>> > I think this is a great idea! The use of a mailing list is >>> > manageable for a small (2-10) groups but doesn’t scale to the size >>> > and frequency of comments/replies that the Swift Open Source project >>> > has seen thus far. Not to mention, it reeks of 1996. >>> > >>> > I’m not sure if we should authenticate users via AppleID, because we >>> > want the Swift community to remain cross-platform going forward. >>> > >>> > A Slack would be a great idea, for banter but may get crazy. We >>> > would want the slack channels to remain subject pure (i.e., no >>> > shenanigans). Email is good in this regard in that a reply is >>> > expensive and therefore on-topic, whereas slack replies are cheap >>> > and therefore easily off topic. Anyone have any idea to combat that? >>> > Code of Conduct? >>> > >>> > I think in making this decision we should separate the determination >>> > that the mailing lists are posing too great a burden at our scale >>> > from the selection of what we should use in its stead. >>> > >>> > - Sean >>> > >>> > >>> >> I think this thread should focus on the mailing list vs forum, Slack is >>> >> not a forum. It could be nice to have it as an extra if we need it. >>> >> >>> >> It looks to me that all benefits of a mailing list can be achieved by a >>> >> forum system with excellent support to read and reply using emails. But >>> >> the opposite is not true, one single simple example: we can't even link >>> >> related thread using email (as Tino mentioned on the Gmane thread). >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> swift-evolution mailing list >>> swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org> >>> https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution >>> <https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> swift-evolution mailing list >> swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org> >> https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution >> <https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution> > > _______________________________________________ > swift-evolution mailing list > swift-evolution@swift.org > https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution
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