Well Darrell, If you take a listen to any text of your choosing with JAWS, and compare the same reading with Window-Eyes, you can definitely hear the difference.

JAWS Eloquence barely completes the last word of any sentence, then rapidly moves right to the first word in the next with virtually no pause or letup. And no, all of the applied settings at JAW's command will not help with this apparently programmed defect.


If I wish to speed up my reading on my own, I can certainly do so, but I simply don't need to have my reading done at a pace that would drive me nuts if a human reader did the same.


As many varieties of readers commercial or staff that the Talking Book program uses, I have encountered none that would read in that manner. This is something I simply cannot put up with, or abide.


On 3/23/2023 4:43 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
What do you mean that eloquence for JAWS doesn't read properly?
Thanks,
Darrell


-----Original Message-----
From: Talk <talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn....@lists.window-eyes.com> On Behalf Of 
Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:41 PM
To: Amanda Lee via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Larry Higgins <larryhiggin...@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Amanda, Please!, Please!, say it isn't so!


Has Code Factory shut down their server permanently, or is this a temporary 
problem.


I must say that I really like Eloquence, but haven't been totally
satisfied with either Code Factory's version, nor that which comes with
JAWS.


The one problem I find with the factory's version is that it goes past
my most comfortable WE reading speed of 41  to either a step or so below
or above. And JAWS Eloquence doesn't pause appropriately between
sentences, which doesn't seem to bother enough users for Vispairo
(spelling) to do anything about it.


Sure wish I  hadn't gotten rid of, or maybe lost would be more like it,
my version of Window-Eyes with an independent version of Eloquence, so
that I might be able to use it with any screen reader, at least
theoretically anyway.


I really might be much more willing to completely switch over to either
JAWS or NVDA if I could only hear Eloquence the way I wish to hear it.




On 3/23/2023 2:42 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote:
Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed
version of Microsoft Office.

I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it
was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up
the computer.

The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server
for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none
were fully used.

That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero.



-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
<talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com> On Behalf
Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Darrell Bowles <dgbow...@msn.com>
Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked.
Thanks,
Darrell


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From: Talk <talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn....@lists.window-eyes.com> On Behalf
Of Amanda Lee via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this
petition.

It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing
businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but
a hostile demand.

What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed
version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as
that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed
owners of the software.

I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another
Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion.

Kind regards,

Amanda Lee



-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
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Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Sky Mundell <s...@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy

Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to
fix the problem.
Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it
probably won't make a difference. Here it is.
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On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago,
on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup
that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact  the I Square
office.
So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop
working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and
if so what is the sollution?  Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7
update that is causing the problem and if so which update?

Thanks for any suggestions.
--
<dhof...@att.net>

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